Enhanced Baldur's Gate Headed to iPad

[croc3629]

No skin off my nose, and this type of game CAN work on a tablet PC.

Even better, it makes it more likely that this will earn enough to actually make a Baldur's Gate 3 (or whatever they're going to make) even more likely, even though I doubt a game this popular needs the help.

I see no downside to this. Still not sure if I'm getting the enhanced edition though.

 

[80Maxwell08]

There goes any hope for a proper "Enhanced Edition" along with an updated UI and other features..., a cash-in it will be, oh well...

They have said they will do the UI and others. They are making it for PC first but since the games can basically be played with only a mouse why not port them to a touch screen device. It's still not finished yet hence why there's no real screenshots but just pictures of an iPad running the game.

 

[viranimus]

LOL, Comedy gold.

"You cant add gamepad support to Baulders Gate... thats stupid, that would be horrible to control, No one would play that and you would have to rewrite the entire game and build two separate games to make it work clunky at best."

But its going to the Ipad....

"OMG OMG OMG~!!!! This is so awesome, and touch screen controls will be such a great "enhancement! This should be a cinch for them to add and its going to be so seamless and fluid! "

That after having to deal with all sorts of nonsense from the prior article that was similar in tone about the BG enhanced thread and the immediate denunciation of gamepad support.

So.. Ill say it! Blasphemy.. You cant add touch screen controls to balders gate.. they are trying to enhance the game, and you cannot ask them to bog down production just for your irrational desires of a minority of people who are that wrong to want something like that and on the apple store. (not that I believe it... but just throwing it back out there.)

 

[Nikolaz72]

The game looks no different from BG2 hmm.

Seems like even less reason to get it :/

Well for PC users I believe the main things it brings is this.

-Makes it into tutumod-

But Tutumod is, cheesy. It didnt change the graphics all it changed was the way classes played out and some special paths and stuff. This will not only change that, but also the graphics of BG1.

One thing Tutumod never managed to was make a higher resolution available, as such people with widescreen has to play with big dark collums out in the side, this also seems to be a problem they are erasing.

On top of that they are addings new quests and NPC's (Dont have a count of how many)

And they might be combining the two into one game. Or at least make the transitioning easier.

LOL, Comedy gold.

"You cant add gamepad support to Baulders Gate... thats stupid, that would be horrible to control, No one would play that and you would have to rewrite the entire game and build two separate games to make it work clunky at best."

But its going to the Ipad....

"OMG OMG OMG~!!!! This is so awesome, and touch screen controls will be such a great "enhancement! This should be a cinch for them to add and its going to be so seamless and fluid! "

That after having to deal with all sorts of nonsense from the prior article that was similar in tone about the BG enhanced thread and the immediate denunciation of gamepad support.

So.. Ill say it! Blasphemy.. You cant add touch screen controls to balders gate.. they are trying to enhance the game, and you cannot ask them to bog down production just for your irrational desires of a minority of people who are that wrong to want something like that and on the apple store. (not that I believe it... but just throwing it back out there.)

Just above your own post is your answer, they are focusing it on the PC but they 'are' releasing it for other platforms in the weeks/months later. So if you got a console I think you can relax. That being said, it will probably be more comfortable playing at a PC, and with 'those' requirements. You will need a workcomputer for 1999 (with the abselute lowest specs possible at that time, even for a workcomputer) to 'not' run it. Anything newer will pretty much be able to.

 

[viranimus]

Just above your own post is your answer, they are focusing it on the PC but they 'are' releasing it for other platforms in the weeks/months later. So if you got a console I think you can relax. That being said, it will probably be more comfortable playing at a PC, and with 'those' requirements. You will need a workcomputer for 1999 (with the abselute lowest specs possible at that time, even for a workcomputer) to 'not' run it. Anything newer will pretty much be able to.

Yeah my point has nothing to do with the developers or the games development for any or all platforms. My point has to do with PC master race elitist who cheered the notion of shooting down the idea of game pad support when it was suggested as being an unproductive use of their time that would result in too much work for the developers to condense the controls down to a gamepad format when the developers have not only rebuilt a second platforms version but added a completely new control interface service layer on top of that second platform.

Yeah sorry if I confused, I wasnt asking for a console version. In the other thread I simply found it a bit insulting for the developers to outright deny any possibility for gamepad support for the PC release and fanboys backed them up on it.

Basically how is condemning gamepads cool but neutering and condensing control configurations into a touch screen interface acceptable?

 

[AuronFtw]

Yes, yes, you can still grab the game for PC

The only part of the article that matters.

 

[Ramith]

Trent Oster Twitter

"I can verify the #bgee iPad screens do not show all the graphical enhancements."

Thats cool I suppose, but I dont understand why they would post unfinished SS, that just seems a good way to spread minsinfomation.

Itll have to look nicer than this to get a sale from me.

I have tutu and fully modded BG games... guess it depends how much more content were talking.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

What is it with you people who piss all over Baldur's Gate coming to the iPad? You obviously don't own iPads, so what the hell do you care?

Haven't you heard? Porting games to devices with less powerful hardware retroactively dumbs down the original platform copy, forces you to sell your old platform and buy the new one to keep playing, and punches you in the dick for good measure. It's our responsibility to fight that crap.

 

[mrhateful]

And i was just having such a nice day. Now its ruined

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Or, you know, spend the time and talent of artists and programs on making a NEW game for us to enjoy, rather than reskin and "tweak" and old one.

Crazy idea, I know, this whole 'coming up with ideas' thing. But try it some time.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

What is it with you people who piss all over Baldur's Gate coming to the iPad? You obviously don't own iPads, so what the hell do you care?

Haven't you heard? Porting games to devices with less powerful hardware retroactively dumbs down the original platform copy, forces you to sell your old platform and buy the new one to keep playing, and punches you in the dick for good measure. It's our responsibility to fight that crap.

The problem is them wasting time, money and artistic energy on ports of decade old games, rather than making something NEW for us to enjoy.

Hey, if you wanna waste your talent and port a reskin to a platform for mediocre sales, go right ahead. I'll give my money to a team that actually comes up with new ideas. You know, artists and not shills.

 

[TheAmazingHobo]

BLASPHEMY!
Now a new generation of people will be exposed to a true Gaming Masterpiece!
They might even enjoy it.
ENJOY IT.
What kind of ass**** would allow such a thing ?

Yeah my point has nothing to do with the developers or the games development for any or all platforms. My point has to do with PC master race elitist who cheered the notion of shooting down the idea of game pad support when it was suggested as being an unproductive use of their time that would result in too much work for the developers to condense the controls down to a gamepad format when the developers have not only rebuilt a second platforms version but added a completely new control interface service layer on top of that second platform.

I´m really sorry, I don´t normally do this, but is it cool if I reword this so it´s actually decipherable ?
Here, how about that:

Yeah, my point has nothing to do with the developers. Nor with games development for any or all platforms.
My point has to do with PC master race elitist. More specifically those, that seemed to enjoy shooting down the idea of game pad support. They argued that this would be an unproductive use of the developers time, seeing how condensing the controls down to a gamepad format would take a lot of effort.
However, now the developers have not only built a version of the game on a secondary platform, but indeed added a completely new control interface specifically for this platform.

 

[TheAmazingHobo]

The problem is them wasting time, money and artistic energy on ports of decade old games, rather than making something NEW for us to enjoy.

Hey, if you wanna waste your talent and port a reskin to a platform for mediocre sales, go right ahead. I'll give my money to a team that actually comes up with new ideas. You know, artists and not shills.

Slight problem here:
The people who would be good at delivering thing A (an upgraded port of something old) are most likely not the people who would be good at delivering thing B (an entirely new thing).
The skill-set required to do A is so vastly different from what is necessary to do B, that the chance of this being a case of "We get A, but we could have gotten B if A didn´t exist" is very small.

Also, I really don´t like how you call everyone who works on polishing and upgrading something old for a new generation, a "shill".
But then, you strike me as the type of person who isn´t bothered by that.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

The problem is them wasting time, money and artistic energy on ports of decade old games, rather than making something NEW for us to enjoy.

Hey, if you wanna waste your talent and port a reskin to a platform for mediocre sales, go right ahead. I'll give my money to a team that actually comes up with new ideas. You know, artists and not shills.

Slight problem here:
The people who would be good at delivering thing A (an upgraded port of something old) are most likely not the people who would be good at delivering thing B (an entirely new thing).
The skill-set required to do A is so vastly different from what is necessary to do B, that the chance of this being a case of "We get A, but we could have gotten B if A didn´t exist" is very small.

Also, I really don´t like how you call everyone who works on polishing and upgrading something old for a new generation, a "shill".
But then, you strike me as the type of person who isn´t bothered by that.

I find it impossible to believe the team they are paying to reskin and port this decade old game-in that entire group-they don't posses the skills required to make a new game. They are artists, programmers, engineers, marketers-the lot! If they can't muster a creative thought and produce an original product, something is seriously wrong.

Besides, I doubt a single person on the team hasn't been a part of an original design team.

And no, I don't care that I called them all shills, lol. Knocking out a reskin- sorry, a 'revamping' of an old, warn product is a money grab. Couldn't be bothered to sit down with a pen and hash out an original idea, they slap some paint on an old money maker and roll it out. It's no different to what many games are nowadays, they just aren't so blatant as to call themselves reskins (Halo springs to mind).

EDIT: better yet, rather than force these guys to strain their brain to come up with a new idea (apparently it's hard to think), pair them up with someone who does have the skills and knock it out of the park.

But they won't. Because this is an easier way to make money.

 

[TheAmazingHobo]

I find it impossible to believe the team they are paying to reskin and port this decade old game-in that entire group-they don't posses the skills required to make a new game. They are artists, programmers, engineers, marketers-the lot! If they can't muster a creative thought and produce an original product, something is seriously wrong.

Besides, I doubt a single person on the team hasn't been a part of an original design team.

And no, I don't care that I called them all shills, lol. Knocking out a reskin- sorry, a 'revamping' of an old, warn product is a money grab. Couldn't be bothered to sit down with a pen and hash out an original idea, they slap some paint on an old money maker and roll it out. It's no different to what many games are nowadays, they just as so blatant to call themselves reskins (Halo springs to mind).

Seeing how you believe the process of creating a new game amounts to "sitting down with a pen and hashing out an original idea" I´m inclined to somewhat dismiss you judgement on this issue.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

What is it with you people who piss all over Baldur's Gate coming to the iPad? You obviously don't own iPads, so what the hell do you care?

Personally, I think it's a F-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C idea. TAKE MY MONEY!

"You people"? Not a single person before you complained about this being on the iPod. At most, one person said it's a shame a once revolutionary video game has been reduced to an app. In fact, everyone bar that person before you said they were excited for it.

You know what you did? Assumed. Jumped the gun. Acted hastily.

It's as if people think they have some duty to defend 'the mainstream' or something. It's reverse hipsterism! It's come full circle!

[small][small]God help us all...[/small][/small]

 

[viranimus]

Snip

Sorry. I would rather you not, though you already have, so whats done is done. No biggie.

While there were some minor errors such as not pluralizing elitist, I said exactly what I wanted to say and how I intended to say it. It clearly is decipherable because if it were not you would not have been able to edit the statement in order to correct what you see as a run on sentence. However it is NOT a run on sentence because the sentence never deviates from the subject matter.

However I know where this comes from. I am a studying Psychologist and when you start reading many of the relevant works of psychology and psychiatry especially when read in their original German, you encounter many elongated sentence structures. After being immersed in that for so long, your thoughts begin to turn to that in second nature.

Anyway I do see the validity of your edit. It chunks one sentence down so that the below average reader might not get confused and loose their train of thought before they get to the end of the sentence. If it makes it less likely for me to be misinterpreted and quoted on it, I should be all for that I guess.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Seeing how you believe the process of creating a new game amounts to "sitting down with a pen and hashing out an original idea" I´m inclined to somewhat dismiss you judgement on this issue.

I'm sorry, do they stand when they write down some ideas for a game? Use laptops and not pens?

I've no idea why you felt the need to ignore context, but you succeeded. I mean, that it takes more than a single sitting around a table to hash out a game, one would think is obvious enough to not merit writing. That one would simplify their statement to save time, I would assume is common sense.

But if you really cannot see past the words and take into context their broader reference, I'll explain: coming up with ideas for a video game shouldn't be hard for people who make a living in the industry. That their employer chose to waste their skill on a reskin and port, is a money grab and an act of extreme laziness. Though not easy to come up with an original idea, one would think they could "hash it out." I'm pretty sure we as a species have been doing it for, oh I don't know, a few thousand years.

More and more indie games become the only well left to pull up any sort of original thought. No one pays them a few grand to sit around their table and they manage it.