Bretty said:
Rednog said:
Kheapathic said:
Now this is just awesome. I'm hoping there will be at least one clueless twit like there was for the Batman Arkham Asylum leak. I hope there's a lot of hate and "I pre-ordered but I can't play WTF," I hope they try to take Epic to court and I hope Epic mops the floor with them.
Epic has absolutely nothing to stand on in this case, if anything the people's lawyers would steam roll Epic. I mean what possible argument could Epic have to justify their actions? These guys took our intellectual property and instead of suing them directly which we should have done we're going to scam $60 out of the consumer? You just can't do that. It would be like if someone owed you money and they aren't paying up, so you decide to hotwire their car. That person legally owes you that money but you have no right to commit theft.
You are hilarious Rednog. They have just warned people what will happen to them when they buy the game. So a heads up has been given. Secondly, they can return the game. If they are unable to return the game then they will have installed it anyway and probably accepted the EULA anyway. Which means that by the time they are banned they will have already agreed that Epic has the right to do what they want to those afore mentioned violaters.
Personally I am happy with this. People feel that it is ok to get early builds and that it causes no issues or is a problem. These people need to get their heads out of the sand. It is illegal for them to have that copy as it is stolen property. The fact that a poster here admited to owning copies is case and point.
Uhh I'm sorry but in what world does having an interview in eurogamer (or in any magazine for that matter) count as a fair warning?
Hint, it doesn't. That is like saying I'm going to sell you some faulty tires and you come back to me complaining that they don't work and I say sorry I warned my neighbor that they were faulty, didn't you get the memo?
So no, no heads up like this is legally binding in any way shape or form, you have to provide that information directly to the consumer (most likely in this case on the box itself). It is the legal obligation of the seller to provide any and all information about the product to the consumer directly, it isn't the job of the consumer to hunt down all this information.
Also, why does everyone make this argument of you can return a game for whatever reason? Last I checked most stores won't take back an opened item if the product itself does not work, and even then most have the policy of replacing it with a "working" copy and in some cases store credit. Also it has been a while since I've played an Xbox game (my last was Red Dead Redemption), but last I checked games really don't make you scroll through EULAs and even then Epic's lawyers would be pretty hard pressed to be able to insert a clause like that into a EULA. You can't legally punish someone for a previous transgression like that.
Watch some basic fluff court television that is on in the afternoon and you'll eventually see a handful of cases where people try to make really egregious contracts with other people and some people will blindly sign it, but a judge will overthrow the contract because it is an unreasonable contract. Epic wouldn't be able to defend a clause like that.
Yes it is illegal for people to have those precopies, but like I said Epic has to handle it the legal way, you in no way shape or form can justify Epic committing consumer fraud. This just isn't how the law works.
So I don't see how this is hilarious. A big company is blatantly saying that they intend to break the law, and if they actually follow through they should receive the appropriate legal punishment.
Hell if you're ok with Epic breaking the law, then by that logic you should be ok with people breaking the law and having those early copies. You can't pick and choose which laws to follow.
