...Where did i mention forced multiplayer?weker said:El Luck said:Yay more forced in multiplayers woot wootEl Luck said:I know Jim had that big video about how people replay games, but I am sure there are more people that don't, which he failed to consider.
I don't tend to replay many games at all, excluding some with moral choice.
I would rather have this day one DLC (as long as it doesn't cost money when I buy the game, and also doesn't prove to be a crucial part of the game) then start forcing game styles on developers.
Epic: DLC Needed to Fight "Used Game Culture"
- Thread starter The Wooster
- Start date
You didn't, why do you ask?El Luck said:...Where did i mention forced multiplayer?weker said:El Luck said:Yay more forced in multiplayers woot wootEl Luck said:
I don't tend to replay many games at all, excluding some with moral choice.
I would rather have this day one DLC (as long as it doesn't cost money when I buy the game, and also doesn't prove to be a crucial part of the game) then start forcing game styles on developers.
"game that people wouldn't want to trade in" for the common consumer these are games that you don't trade in. Most single player games, unless their the likes of fallout get traded in super quick, as there is no reason to keep them.
Give it time, with books going digital more and more look for things like "bonus chapters" or something of the sort to crop up eventually.Kahunaburger said:
Okay, but that's a separate issue. They lower the price and used game prices come down as well. Same loss. Besides, if you want a company to agree that it makes mathematical sense to lower their prices, they need to believe that they still make a good percentage per unit sold. Used games bring this percentage down, and encourage developers to keep prices high. Besides, the higher the volume of games are out their, the easier it is to support a secondhand market. More people who would think that 60 bucks is too much of a risk will spend a smaller amount and brave that risk, meaning more copies returned when the those individuals return the game. And people will return a game even if they like it.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
No. No it isn't. A better business model is needed to sell more launch games.
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but has anyone noticed that the "used games" issue has only been a supposedly industry-threatening issue since the advent of nickel-and-dime DLC?
I'm getting sick of the companies and their bullshit. I'm also sick of all of the disinterested morons who think that all of this nonsense is a good idea.
The way the industry is headed, we'll be charged in gameplay per minutes with a connection fee. We as consumers are being ripped off in the name of higher profit margins. I realize that, as a business, profits are your desired result, but don't do it at the expense of your client base.
Then again, what I'm calling for is decency from a corporate culture and action from the most lazy people on earth.
We're all doomed.
It's like they aren't even looking over and seeing Steam, a service that permalocks used games to an account, making a castle out of money because people don't mind not being able to sell their games back when they are able to buy them at an affordable price, or better yet, for several hats that they just picked up in an engaging and goofy game.
I actually agree with online passes, if they work the way I think they work. If you buy the game new an online pass comes with it, if you buy it used you have to buy an online pass for £10, what's wrong with that? Didn't the new Batman game do that with the Catwomen part?
By the way the price of games in shops is mainly dictated by the shop. Are they going to lower the price of the new game and only get half of the profit? or keep it expensive and get you to buy used.
By the way the price of games in shops is mainly dictated by the shop. Are they going to lower the price of the new game and only get half of the profit? or keep it expensive and get you to buy used.
The dichotomy of that situation is broken when you look at steam sales and discover that most games' profits exceed what they were making in other markets despite being at a lower price, and that steam doesn't take full profit from used sales because they don't have any.
Shush you. Your logic has no place in this discussion. Now if you excuse me I need to go figure out which DLC codes unlock the start menu of this game I just picked up.weirdguy said:
That is how it works, intrestingly though, because it's a generated code people have worked out how to generate them, and because they generate working codes there's a chance that that freshly package shiny new retail version you bought contains a code someone else already redeemed. Isn't it funderful!?Wasted Frank said:
Additionally I was under the impression that DLC was the combat against used games. Admittedly most DLC is craptacular which is probably why it isn't working.
For those championing digital distribution, I don't know about the US, but here in Blighty the price of a new game is £49.99, it's just everyone except Argos sells them for £39.99. When you get to the playstation store however the price is £49.99, and they can maintain a higher price point for much longer than shops because they don't need to worry about getting rid of stock...
Can someone please tell me where the hell developers and publishers get this idea that used games is somehow a personal insult to them? It's confounding to me where they get this attitude that they are somehow entitled to the money of a used game. You already got the money for the game sale you moron! You have no further say in what happens to the game once you sell it! Where the hell do they get the idea that they do? I can't think of any kind of product which works that way. And calling it a "culture", like it's come kind of rebel group on the fringes of society who are the only ones doing this, is just insane. What the hell are these guys smoking?
If it isn't one excuse for bad sales, it's another. Hell, just admit that maybe, just maybe, your games aren't quite as good as you really think they are. And maybe, just maybe, the economy sucks right now, and people have to cut back on their game buying in order to buy other things. Things like, ya know, food.