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Arontala said:
I like how people are baffled as to why someone would hack into a game companies storage of passwords and emails. Oh, I don't know, maybe because they want to commit identity theft? How are people so stunned at this? Is it because it's just a game company? Should we not take this seriously just because of that?

Unbelievable.
This.

They're just cyber criminals, trying to glorify their actions.
 

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What the hell? Epic has been great to everyone so who would want to hack them?
Are you serious? Epic has been a dick to a lot of people, look up on their history. Cliffy B. is an outright paranoid douchbag.

Anyway, that being said Epic are a big target. If these guys dipped their hands in honey - the Developer Network - a lot of major companies out there relying on the Unreal Engine can get themselves in a big trouble. It's hitting hard. hitting big.
So a part of the entire industry gets screwed up the ass on the whims of some douche hackers? That's just super.
They did say the Unreal Network was safe, they probably have better security for that, but it does present a tempting target for them.
 

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The email for this actually woke me up. It's pretty ridiculous.

On the one hand the hackers are supposedly trying to prove how vulnerable the internet is. On the other they're kinda right.

Sadly with computer security, there is always a hole in it. Anyone who understands the system can get around it. They aren't proving anything. They're just being stupid.

I have a feeling this is going to be going on for a long time. >.> People suck.
 

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RatRace123 said:
Traun said:
MercurySteam said:
What the hell? Epic has been great to everyone so who would want to hack them?
Are you serious? Epic has been a dick to a lot of people, look up on their history. Cliffy B. is an outright paranoid douchbag.

Anyway, that being said Epic are a big target. If these guys dipped their hands in honey - the Developer Network - a lot of major companies out there relying on the Unreal Engine can get themselves in a big trouble. It's hitting hard. hitting big.
So a part of the entire industry gets screwed up the ass on the whims of some douche hackers? That's just super.
They did say the Unreal Network was safe, they probably have better security for that, but it does present a tempting target for them.
Bingo.

The Unreal Network stores a lot of data from games in development, I wouldn't be surprised if people found half of the Mass Effect code in there, along with some assets. Not to mention the lucrative info there is on there.

Also, it's is in the best interest of Epic to play like Sony. Unless absolutely necessary deny that the information was accessed. Don't forget, Sony had to deal with fans, Epic will have to deal with the legal departments of Activision and EA (and Ubisoft, and TakeTwo...) .

EDIT: Also, they would get a financial information on every company that used the Unreal Engine. And indy devs...the less said the better.
 

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Frotality said:
is there any big company ANYWHERE that is going to get the hint and up their security? its getting really hard to feel sorry for companies whose learning capacity is on par with that of a lemming. the argument of "no security is perfect" really falls apart when hack after hack is showing how pathetic their security really is.

it will be sadly hilarious to see the internet taken over by hackers due to websites' collective refusal to ever learn.
Except this totally reinforces the argument that everything can be hacked.
Think of it, if the hackers can hack the best security then how the fuck will others be protected? By something that isn't even invented yet?
 

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Seriously, enough with the hacking! Sooner or later they're going to get Game Freak or something and make me very sad.
 

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BTW Codemasters have been hacked aswell. I recieved a email from them telling me so
 

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Frotality said:
is there any big company ANYWHERE that is going to get the hint and up their security? its getting really hard to feel sorry for companies whose learning capacity is on par with that of a lemming. the argument of "no security is perfect" really falls apart when hack after hack is showing how pathetic their security really is.

it will be sadly hilarious to see the internet taken over by hackers due to websites' collective refusal to ever learn.
Dude it doesn't matter how much you "up the security" someone will still find a way to hack it
 

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TrevHead said:
BTW Codemasters have been hacked aswell. I recieved a email from them telling me so
Yeah, that was strange. I'm going to guess some is just bored out of their skull.

What next? Hack GOG?
 

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wow developer sites have pretty shitty security!
look it might look like I,m trash talking developer site but this is probably the fourth time a developer related site has been hacked in a short time.
 

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henritje said:
wow developer sites have pretty shitty security!
look it might look like I,m trash talking developer site but this is probably the fourth time a developer related site has been hacked in a short time.
Mostly because developer sites don't hold any useful information. The only thing there is an account, a password and an email, not enough info to warrant hacking.

The only reason someone would do it is for shit & giggles. Let's be honest, if you were the CEO, how would you have reacted if last year someone from IT came to you and told you "Well sir, someone who has enough experience to hack into servers and web sites, may decide to do it just because he is bored, we should increase our spending on security several fold just to be sure, despite the fact that if they hack a more lucrative target, which they would be able to do, they will get more recognition, more information and the possibility for a monetary gain."?
 

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Phlakes said:
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?

It's like that one kid at school who keeps retelling the same joke expecting the class to keep laughing, but IT WASN'T FUNNY THE FIRST TIME.

In fact, that kid's just a massive douche and I want to punch him. A lot.
It's like people who keep making jokes about the cake from Portal or making bad puns and dressing them up with that CSI Miami shit. Wasn't funny the first time, still isn't funny now, just knock it off.
 

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Vibhor said:
Frotality said:
is there any big company ANYWHERE that is going to get the hint and up their security? its getting really hard to feel sorry for companies whose learning capacity is on par with that of a lemming. the argument of "no security is perfect" really falls apart when hack after hack is showing how pathetic their security really is.

it will be sadly hilarious to see the internet taken over by hackers due to websites' collective refusal to ever learn.
Except this totally reinforces the argument that everything can be hacked.
Think of it, if the hackers can hack the best security then how the fuck will others be protected? By something that isn't even invented yet?
PSN's main reason for being hacked was having a outdated Apache server.
 

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Traun said:
RatRace123 said:
Traun said:
MercurySteam said:
What the hell? Epic has been great to everyone so who would want to hack them?
Are you serious? Epic has been a dick to a lot of people, look up on their history. Cliffy B. is an outright paranoid douchbag.

Anyway, that being said Epic are a big target. If these guys dipped their hands in honey - the Developer Network - a lot of major companies out there relying on the Unreal Engine can get themselves in a big trouble. It's hitting hard. hitting big.
So a part of the entire industry gets screwed up the ass on the whims of some douche hackers? That's just super.
They did say the Unreal Network was safe, they probably have better security for that, but it does present a tempting target for them.
Bingo.

The Unreal Network stores a lot of data from games in development, I wouldn't be surprised if people found half of the Mass Effect code in there, along with some assets. Not to mention the lucrative info there is on there.

Also, it's is in the best interest of Epic to play like Sony. Unless absolutely necessary deny that the information was accessed. Don't forget, Sony had to deal with fans, Epic will have to deal with the legal departments of Activision and EA (and Ubisoft, and TakeTwo...) .

EDIT: Also, they would get a financial information on every company that used the Unreal Engine. And indy devs...the less said the better.
I didn't know epic games had that much stuff. Damn. I thought they just made gears of war games.
 

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Why? Dammit! Why?!
I want to know what Epic Games did to you that was SO horrible!
Gears 2 multiplayer.
 

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Arehexes said:
Frotality said:
is there any big company ANYWHERE that is going to get the hint and up their security? its getting really hard to feel sorry for companies whose learning capacity is on par with that of a lemming. the argument of "no security is perfect" really falls apart when hack after hack is showing how pathetic their security really is.

it will be sadly hilarious to see the internet taken over by hackers due to websites' collective refusal to ever learn.
Dude it doesn't matter how much you "up the security" someone will still find a way to hack it
Well yeah, but if you up the security enough it will take years and lot of money and anon has ADHD and no money so...
 

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Racecarlock said:
Traun said:
RatRace123 said:
Traun said:
MercurySteam said:
What the hell? Epic has been great to everyone so who would want to hack them?
Are you serious? Epic has been a dick to a lot of people, look up on their history. Cliffy B. is an outright paranoid douchbag.

Anyway, that being said Epic are a big target. If these guys dipped their hands in honey - the Developer Network - a lot of major companies out there relying on the Unreal Engine can get themselves in a big trouble. It's hitting hard. hitting big.
So a part of the entire industry gets screwed up the ass on the whims of some douche hackers? That's just super.
They did say the Unreal Network was safe, they probably have better security for that, but it does present a tempting target for them.
Bingo.

The Unreal Network stores a lot of data from games in development, I wouldn't be surprised if people found half of the Mass Effect code in there, along with some assets. Not to mention the lucrative info there is on there.

Also, it's is in the best interest of Epic to play like Sony. Unless absolutely necessary deny that the information was accessed. Don't forget, Sony had to deal with fans, Epic will have to deal with the legal departments of Activision and EA (and Ubisoft, and TakeTwo...) .

EDIT: Also, they would get a financial information on every company that used the Unreal Engine. And indy devs...the less said the better.
I didn't know epic games had that much stuff. Damn. I thought they just made gears of war games.
Epic Games are the developers of the Unreal Engine, the most widely used gaming engine in the last few years. Mass Effect, Homefront and Mortal Kombat, for example, use it. The is also a free version, the Unreal Developer Kit, for indy games - Magicka uses the UDK.
Now Epic is directly handleling tech support for the engine. Meaning that if the guys at Bioware had issue with something, they would report to Epic - and Epic keeps logs and they most likely keep part of that code as well. Imagine if someone leaked the modified code for Mortal Kombat? Every single developer (indy or not) in the world could copy it(not exactly due to leagal stuff, but you get the idea).

Furthermore they receive a royalty for every copy sold, if hackers are able to get their hands on the financial history they can calculate how many copies every game on the list sold. Let's just say there is a really good reason why many companies don't release sales history.

Imagine what would happen if they hack Crytech (developers of Cry Engine, Crysis and Far Cry) - the Cry Engine is used not only by game companies, but by the US military for simulation purposes as well, lot's of lucrative information.