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Wow, people are getting really worked up over this?

I despise the phrase "First World problems", but it has never seemed more appropriate than right now.
 

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...Wow, I'm amazed at how many people are getting butthurt over this. Look, I love Calvin and Hobbes too, but like they say, "It's a parody, I should really just relax." ...Though people will probably still get butthurt anyway...

(Grabs some popcorn)
 

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Never have I seen so many drama queens all getting their underpants twisted in one thread over something so trivial.
 

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Nile McMorrow said:
Scrub Cannon? What on earth is that?
Hope noone else has already told you, but if someone has; Sorry for bugging you.

My guess is "Scrub Cannon" is another name for the "Noob Tube".
 

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Grey Carter said:
Scorpid said:
Well I know you guys wouldn't put out a comic that would get you sued, but it just dawned on me, between all the characters you use from popular games like Kratos and Zelda why aren't you being in danger of being sued?
Technically we're covered under the fair use doctrine on account of our work generally being parody. That wouldn't stop people from trying to sue us though, and if they did we wouldn't have the money to fight back. Really, the reason we don't get any legal threats or anything is because we're very small fish in a very large pond. The more popular you get, the bigger a target you become. See Penny Arcade and Strawberry Shortcake for an example of that.
o_0 The Strawberry Shortcake people sued Penny Arcade?!

>_> Hmmm...
 

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Susan Arendt said:
Wow. The amount of overreacting in this thread is fascinating.

*gets popcorn*
MiracleOfSound said:
Never have I seen so many drama queens all getting their underpants twisted in one thread over something so trivial.
What do you think the bigger factor is in this drama explosin? Hobbes, or COD?
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Black Ops II corrupts absolutely.

EDIT: Correction: XBOX Live corrupts absolutely.
As evil as BlopsII is, it's tame compared to the holocaust of elitist bitching and blaming in League of Legends.
 

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Atmos Duality said:
canadamus_prime said:
Black Ops II corrupts absolutely.

EDIT: Correction: XBOX Live corrupts absolutely.
As evil as BlopsII is, it's tame compared to the holocaust of elitist bitching and blaming in League of Legends.
Apparently sportsmanship is a concept that's lost on most online gamers.
 

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The real question is "How Hobbe play a videogame if this doesn't exist?"

The answer of course is, "He doesn't, Erin did played"

And this is the reason why Hobbe act like that in this specific comics. Calvin saw Hobbe different cause he use his imagination.
The same goes for Erin.

My opinion of course cause in reality didn't read a lot of Calvin and Hobbes comics.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Apparently sportsmanship is a concept that's lost on most online gamers.
Aye, and what's scary, is that I can actually see the appeal in blaming someone else in the heat of the moment.
Especially for any team game where the team composition and performance REALLY matters.

I try my best not to, because getting pissed hampers ones judgment, and the problem just snowballs out of control when everyone on your team starts doing it.
 

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Atmos Duality said:
canadamus_prime said:
Apparently sportsmanship is a concept that's lost on most online gamers.
Aye, and what's scary, is that I can actually see the appeal in blaming someone else in the heat of the moment.
Especially for any team game where the team composition and performance REALLY matters.

I try my best not to, because getting pissed hampers ones judgment, and the problem just snowballs out of control when everyone on your team starts doing it.
What I really have to shake my head at is when people make excuses as to why they lost. "Oh that character's overpowered", "HAX", "fucker campers," that sort of thing. If you (generic) were really had any skill worth mentioning you wouldn't have to make excuses as to why you lost. One thing's for sure, no one ever makes excuses for why they won. You don't hear the winners complaining about hax or overpowered characters or campers or whatever. It's only the losers who can't accept the fact that there just might be someone better than them. And that's what makes them truly losers in my mind.
 

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The comic was spot on. I only chat with my Xbox Live party and tend to shy away from chatting with the community at large playing the game (for the very same reason illustrated in the comic).
 

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Atmos Duality said:
canadamus_prime said:
Apparently sportsmanship is a concept that's lost on most online gamers.
Aye, and what's scary, is that I can actually see the appeal in blaming someone else in the heat of the moment.
Especially for any team game where the team composition and performance REALLY matters.

I try my best not to, because getting pissed hampers ones judgment, and the problem just snowballs out of control when everyone on your team starts doing it.
I was listening to a conversation on Live (I find them grimly amusing) where one guy claimed that raging, and bellowing obscenities is part of the "COD experience," and when I think about it, I kind of agree with him. It's probably part of why I enjoy the series, no matter how broken its various installments get (and BLOPSII is very broken), playing it with friends is basically an evening of beer, gaming and creative expletives.
 

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Imp Emissary said:
Grey Carter said:
Scorpid said:
Well I know you guys wouldn't put out a comic that would get you sued, but it just dawned on me, between all the characters you use from popular games like Kratos and Zelda why aren't you being in danger of being sued?
Technically we're covered under the fair use doctrine on account of our work generally being parody. That wouldn't stop people from trying to sue us though, and if they did we wouldn't have the money to fight back. Really, the reason we don't get any legal threats or anything is because we're very small fish in a very large pond. The more popular you get, the bigger a target you become. See Penny Arcade and Strawberry Shortcake for an example of that.
o_0 The Strawberry Shortcake people sued Penny Arcade?!

>_> Hmmm...
They threatened legal action if Penny Arcade didn't remove a strip. Fun for everybody.
 

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Grey Carter said:
I was listening to a conversation on Live (I find them grimly amusing) where one guy claimed that raging, and bellowing obscenities is part of the "COD experience," and when I think about it, I kind of agree with him. It's probably part of why I enjoy the series, no matter how broken its various installments get (and BLOPSII is very broken), playing it with friends is basically an evening of beer, gaming and creative expletives.
I guess it's what you're looking for in an evening.
Personally, I put up with enough stressful nonsense and stupid crap that makes me facepalm in regular life.
Don't need my game time contributing to it.

Though I also believe there's a significant difference between the kind of jabbing vulgarity and "anger" you find among a casual night with friends and the kind that ends with a controller going through a TV.

canadamus_prime said:
What I really have to shake my head at is when people make excuses as to why they lost. "Oh that character's overpowered", "HAX", "fucker campers," that sort of thing. If you (generic) were really had any skill worth mentioning you wouldn't have to make excuses as to why you lost. One thing's for sure, no one ever makes excuses for why they won. You don't hear the winners complaining about hax or overpowered characters or campers or whatever. It's only the losers who can't accept the fact that there just might be someone better than them. And that's what makes them truly losers in my mind.
When I get lagged out, I blame my ISP, not the person who is winning (and having lived with 56k up until 2009, yes, that was a common occurrence). It's the net. Shit breaks, it lags. It's not infallible.

As for "cheap strategies", I can see anyone getting bored with them after a time (a lazy victory feels hollow), but if you're playing to win, identifying the dominant strategy is in fact, playing the game as intended. So anyone bringing "skill" into the argument is already shooting themselves in the foot.
 

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Atmos Duality said:
canadamus_prime said:
What I really have to shake my head at is when people make excuses as to why they lost. "Oh that character's overpowered", "HAX", "fucker campers," that sort of thing. If you (generic) were really had any skill worth mentioning you wouldn't have to make excuses as to why you lost. One thing's for sure, no one ever makes excuses for why they won. You don't hear the winners complaining about hax or overpowered characters or campers or whatever. It's only the losers who can't accept the fact that there just might be someone better than them. And that's what makes them truly losers in my mind.
When I get lagged out, I blame my ISP, not the person who is winning (and having lived with 56k up until 2009, yes, that was a common occurrence). It's the net. Shit breaks, it lags. It's not infallible.
Well that's legitimately something that's beyond your control, isn't it? Although I don't think bitching about it is going to change anything.
As for "cheap strategies", I can see anyone getting bored with them after a time (a lazy victory feels hollow), but if you're playing to win, identifying the dominant strategy is in fact, playing the game as intended. So anyone bringing "skill" into the argument is already shooting themselves in the foot.
Then perhaps one should find a way to counter the "dominant strategies" instead of whining about them. Because whining about them just makes one look like a sore loser.
 

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Grey Carter said:
Imp Emissary said:
Grey Carter said:
Scorpid said:
Well I know you guys wouldn't put out a comic that would get you sued, but it just dawned on me, between all the characters you use from popular games like Kratos and Zelda why aren't you being in danger of being sued?
Technically we're covered under the fair use doctrine on account of our work generally being parody. That wouldn't stop people from trying to sue us though, and if they did we wouldn't have the money to fight back. Really, the reason we don't get any legal threats or anything is because we're very small fish in a very large pond. The more popular you get, the bigger a target you become. See Penny Arcade and Strawberry Shortcake for an example of that.
o_0 The Strawberry Shortcake people sued Penny Arcade?!

>_> Hmmm...
They threatened legal action if Penny Arcade didn't remove a strip. Fun for everybody.
Ha ha ha. Fun read.

Thank you Grey. Hope that never happens to you or Cory.
 

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Krantos said:
No.

No, No No No No.

See this is the problem I always have with people "Revisiting" classic cartoons. They always feel they have to make it darker. Like having Charlie Brown kill Lucy for pulling the ball away. Or Calvin's parents putting him on anti-psychotics.

The old strips' innocence is what made them good. Well, C&H was also good because of the way Calvin and Hobbes would tackle existential questions, but that's another story.

People using the characters like this is just stupid. It's basically saying "hurr, hurr, Hobbes is Swearing!"

The only time I've seen classic characters used well were those Bacon and Hobbes strips.

These Erin and Hobbes strips come across as the writers just saying "Hey LOOK! We're Using characters from another cartoon! Like Us because you like them! Do you like us yet?"

...then again, that's kind of what Crit Miss has been doing ever since Erin's hallucinations started. hmm...
I have to agree with this. Firstly, Calvin and Hobbes was well known for fairly deep humour at times which, I fear, these strips aren't going to reach that standard.

Secondly, this may be a silly question, but is it legal to have C&H in another comic strip? I'm assuming The Escapist hasn't had permission to do so, and I've read before that the creator is very protective of the C&H series.
 

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SpiderJerusalem said:
Susan Arendt said:
Wow. The amount of overreacting in this thread is fascinating.

*gets popcorn*
Almost as fascinating as the Escapist handing out warnings over people criticizing the comic strip.
You mean WARNING.

Eh, the person kind of had it coming. Saying the comic was unoriginal is fair enogh, but going on to say that the comic was made to validate the person's sad life? Not so much.

Also, the tone of the comment seemed very hostile. Not really something you use for a good criticism.