Eroge Site Blocks Non-Japanese Viewers
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Massive /golfclap to everyone denouncing these games.
Yes, the whole train-grope situation is rather more realistic, no arguments there. However I have to ask the question: How is this situation any different than the Jack Thompson claims on so called 'murder simulators' that you play and enjoy daily? One is murder, one is rape. Both are in the form of a game and even if your stomach churns at the idea (and I'm not entirely too happy with it either), it's still a game. There's obviously a market for it.
If you start making the argument that "rape games" push people to become actual rapists, then you better accept the argument that "murder games" like GTA, Prototype, Call of Duty and a myriad of others push people to go out and murder in real life.
To not accept that is to have hypocrisy boil over your very lips like a molten sludge of ignorance.
They're games guys. You might not like the subject matter, but that doesn't change what they are.
Yes, the whole train-grope situation is rather more realistic, no arguments there. However I have to ask the question: How is this situation any different than the Jack Thompson claims on so called 'murder simulators' that you play and enjoy daily? One is murder, one is rape. Both are in the form of a game and even if your stomach churns at the idea (and I'm not entirely too happy with it either), it's still a game. There's obviously a market for it.
If you start making the argument that "rape games" push people to become actual rapists, then you better accept the argument that "murder games" like GTA, Prototype, Call of Duty and a myriad of others push people to go out and murder in real life.
To not accept that is to have hypocrisy boil over your very lips like a molten sludge of ignorance.
They're games guys. You might not like the subject matter, but that doesn't change what they are.
It does seem odd that they are defending this "part of their culture" so thoroughly. I can't imagine there would be a revolution if the games were got rid of; but maybe women would be happier...pimppeter2 said:
I'm not sure if I'm just putting western thinking into this, but any gamedeveloper like this has a very odd mind. Also - hiding the problem doesn't solve it! Maybe they were getting bad comments on their site from westerners or something??
Let me translate this into plain English:
Did I mention it's a game about simulated rape?
[/sarcastic rant over]
But in all seriousness, Japan, you know I love you and your wacky culture, so why'd you have to give me another reason not to visit you? Why must you hurt me in this way?
Yay, xenophobia! It's not like that's something you've never done before, Japan!Japan said:
Really?! What the heck are you talking about? The game's about simulated rape and sexual assault! What could possibly be wrong with that? There's nothing unwholesome about this game, and those darned 'foreigners' are wrong to protest it!Japan said:
Yes, because rape and train groping is such a big part of Japanese culture that we decided to block everyone else from seeing it, because we can. They had no right to protest simulated rape, after all.Japan said:
Because there are so many 'foreigners' (read: stupid gaijin that don't agree with us) that really liked a game about simulated rape?Japan said:
Did I mention it's a game about simulated rape?
[/sarcastic rant over]
But in all seriousness, Japan, you know I love you and your wacky culture, so why'd you have to give me another reason not to visit you? Why must you hurt me in this way?
So is mass-murder? I take it you've never played Prototype of course.Zeeky_Santos said:
(Hey, the western world considers different things taboo. Stuff shouldn't be banned for being distasteful)
Seconded...Kalezian said:
It is a game. A game is not an excuse for women being groped no more than Doom is an excuse for Columbine. The people committing these crimes are people who would have committed them before games were invented. A game exists as a reaction to society not as a cause. I've played rape games, LYNN has played rape games and she is even worse than I am about them since I only go near sex games once a blue moon. However, guess what? Neither of us has grabbed and violated some random stranger or acquaintance.
So while I find the Japanese reaction a bit much and definitely not helping, I can understand where they are coming from. We didn't kill Manhunt because somebody got garroted or killed with a paperbag, mostly because I like to falsely believe that people aren't fucking morons. Murder, rape, etc were happening long before any game came out.
It is a game, nothing more. As for the problems with groping and rape, that is a different problem altogether.
This thread makes me chuckle quite a bit. First off, it is a game. People like to do what they like to do. Whether it be hardcore porn or playing some dirty games. How would you feel if all American porn got the censorship that was blurred to no-point? Or our violent games were completely banned due to violent content? Leave it alone.
Second to those who say train groping is a huge problem, it really isn't. I have lived in Japan for years and I never see it. Trust me I always watch out for it because I would love to crush some pervert. It isn't like you are a girl therefore everytime you step out of your home someone touches your ass. Yes there are perverts out there, but just stand up to them, they are harmless.
Edited to say: here -> Japan
Second to those who say train groping is a huge problem, it really isn't. I have lived in Japan for years and I never see it. Trust me I always watch out for it because I would love to crush some pervert. It isn't like you are a girl therefore everytime you step out of your home someone touches your ass. Yes there are perverts out there, but just stand up to them, they are harmless.
Edited to say: here -> Japan
Oh yes this is completely wrong and Japan must stop. Now I'm off to chainsaw people in half in gears of war.
Now this may be perverted but most eroge games don't always involve rape, personally one of my favorites is sexy beach and that's all 100% consensual... not forced at all.
although considering all this hoopla about this... really makes me rethink my future trip to japan very greatly.
although considering all this hoopla about this... really makes me rethink my future trip to japan very greatly.
this may sound like a stupid-ass reply, but it's because rape victims could find it offensive that it's glorified and games like Manhunt are just going for the gritty realism and games about rape are pushing the envelope a bit too far.Sylocat said:
You idiots do realize that European countries also banned this game, right? Or are all you anti-american flamers just the typical european hypocrites as well?
I know rape is wrong and no I won't be buying this game but I live in Japan, If you don't like the stuff that goes on here then why are you ripping into them for saying 'Well you don't like it so you can't see it' It's weird but it's fair enough, I'd be fine with it if there was controversy over here, but there really isn't, so surely its none of your business? :S
(Just to clarify, rape is bad.)
(Just to clarify, rape is bad.)