Escape to the Movies: Black Swan

[ChaosDemon]

The way I see it, Bob couldn't really win with this one.

If he had skirted around the issue there would have been cries of "What, no lesbians?".
I actually enjoyed the review, because he discussed every other good aspect of the film first. I already wanted to see this film, but this review convinced me to make damn sure I see it.

Thanks Bob and Robert!

 

[Necromancer1991]

You should do all of your reviews with that posh accent from the first part of the review.

I'd love to you see review Transformers 3 in that style. It'd be hilarious.

And I'll wait for the release on Bluray...But I will see this movie. This doesn't seem like the "MUST GO TO THEATER" kind of movie.

Ok here's the opening line of the Bayformer 3 review, "Like hey brah, this movie was awesome, there was like this one part where......." you can kinda see where i'm going with this.

OT: Seems interesting enough (almost sounds like fight club)

 

[HotKakes]

I'm just glad to see a horror film have so much prestige. I'm a big horror film fan and the big flaw of the genre is the sheer amount of substantial thriller or suspense films that are sincerely working the craft.

 

[PunkRex]

HURRAY!!! Support for aesthetic beauty being more then cheap thrills(although the cheap thrills are nice). I was arguing this point last week for like 3 days.

As for the film, I love representive horror. I love the imagry in Silent Hill 2 and I never even played the bloody thing. Im guessing those things she was pulling out her skin were black feathers which were a result of the drugs or stress/lack of sleep. Looks like fun times.

 

[Velocirapture07]

Bob, there's a reason you get flak for freaking the fuck out about boobs and actresses getting naked. It's because in most of your reviews you insist on being taken seriously and movies being taken seriously. Movies are supposed to be deep and artful and well executed, not like The Expendables you say.

Then you insist that it's okay to be like "holy shit, lesbian sex!" like some college frat boy (like the ones you like to make fun of all the time)

Yeah I'm a guy. Does this sound hot to me? Yes, I'd be lying if I said no. But I'm also not going to make a big freaking deal out of it, or present it as evidence of a good movie in what's supposed to be a semi-professional review. Mention it, sure, but whatever. (I understand you talked about the other merits of the film, but you chose to point out the sex scene)

So choose one or the other. Either make professional reviews that mention sex and then move on, or make reviews that dwell on sex and "hot chicks" for their own sake. Just don't get surprised when people complain about the discrepancy. It's really not the talking about it that gets me, it's the way you present it. (hallelujah choir?!)

You can't have your cake, and eat it too.

 

[Wicky_42]

Hah, he was doing sooo well with the faux English accent, then slipped in an American 'can't'. So close yet so far, Bob

Not sure how the film makes me feel about the movie - it just doesn't look like my sort of thing, tbh. Might go see it with the folks, more up their street.

 

[Mezzo.]

"Director of Requiem for a Dream"

That pretty much told me all I need to know about this movie.

I am interest.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

You should do all of your reviews with that posh accent from the first part of the review

I humbly request that that particular vote receives a second updating. Or tertiary, if others have performed as Japanese Assassin's before me.

Fucked up + Ballet? I'm booking tickets now. And I don't care if no-one sits near me.

 

[PunkRex]

Bob, there's a reason you get flak for freaking the fuck out about boobs and actresses getting naked. It's because in most of your reviews you insist on being taken seriously and movies being taken seriously. Movies are supposed to be deep and artful and well executed, not like The Expendables you say.

Then you insist that it's okay to be like "holy shit, lesbian sex!" like some college frat boy (like the ones you like to make fun of all the time)

Yeah I'm a guy. Does this sound hot to me? Yes, I'd be lying if I said no. But I'm also not going to make a big freaking deal out of it, or present it as evidence of a good movie in what's supposed to be a semi-professional review. Mention it, sure, but whatever. (I understand you talked about the other merits of the film, but you chose to point out the sex scene)

So choose one or the other. Either make professional reviews that mention sex and then move on, or make reviews that dwell on sex and "hot chicks" for their own sake. Just don't get surprised when people complain about the discrepancy. It's really not the talking about it that gets me, it's the way you present it. (hallelujah choir?!)

You can't have your cake, and eat it too.

I think the reason he does focus on it so much is the fact he gets so much flak for it. I think its alright to have one or two key issues you like to high light when you argue your points like Yahtzee and Cinematic games(especially ones I agree with so much).

I just hope this bloody argument does not get to out of hand as arguments like this can soon over shadow everything else in a disscussion (not this one right here but the over arching debate).

 

[Dora]

I actually had never heard of this, but it actually sounds pretty neat in a Netflix-y sort of way. I'm not a big fan of Natalie Portman (there's just something about her I don't like, in the same way there's just something about, say, Reese Witherspoon I DO like), but the story looks like my favourite sort of creepy mindtwist.

The review actually raised an interesting point for me. I remember when 300 came out, there were all these jokes about how... uh... Lead Spartan Guy's abs should get their own credit, and it was definitely marketed towards women in a very sexual manner. Hell, I had other women telling me how I should go see it even if I wasn't that into the subject because the male cast was so damn sexy. Why is it okay to suggest that women should want to see a movie because of the meatshow, but if a guy says he wants to go see a film because some hot chick (similarly scantily clad as the men were in 300 or moreso) is in there, holy crap look out, he's a total sexist douchebag? How is this any different from saying you like the graphics in a video game? (Well... I mean, okay, it's sexier, but still.)

I wonder how much of it comes down to insecurity... chicks who don't want to think their significant others might want to watch it because they think they might not measure up, and guys who say they wouldn't want to watch it because they think it's what their women want to hear.

 

[PunkRex]

I actually had never heard of this, but it actually sounds pretty neat in a Netflix-y sort of way. I'm not a big fan of Natalie Portman (there's just something about her I don't like, in the same way there's just something about, say, Reese Witherspoon I DO like), but the story looks like my favourite sort of creepy mindtwist.

The review actually raised an interesting point for me. I remember when 300 came out, there were all these jokes about how... uh... Lead Spartan Guy's abs should get their own credit, and it was definitely marketed towards women in a very sexual manner. Hell, I had other women telling me how I should go see it even if I wasn't that into the subject because the male cast was so damn sexy. Why is it okay to suggest that women should want to see a movie because of the meatshow, but if a guy says he wants to go see a film because some hot chick (similarly scantily clad as the men were in 300 or moreso) is in there, holy crap look out, he's a total sexist douchebag? How is this any different from saying you like the graphics in a video game? (Well... I mean, okay, it's sexier, but still.)

I wonder how much of it comes down to insecurity... chicks who don't want to think their significant others might want to watch it because they think they might not measure up, and guys who say they wouldn't want to watch it because they think it's what their women want to hear.

Because were men and were the route of all evil apparently. Nothing to do with our personality or ideals but because of what hangs between our legs. Our ancesters crimes our ours (white dudes and Germans inparticular have to watch out for this crap). Or as your a women maybe you dont understand? Do you, DO YOU?!

As a side note 300 is my third favourite movie of all time because of the visaul style and effects, the epic action and the MANLY acting (this included his kick ass, damn sexy wife).

Gerald Butler is my man crush, YEAH IM NOT SCARRED TO ADMIT IT!!!

 

[Grey_Focks]

how much money do I have to give you to guarantee you never do that with your voice ever again? Seriously, how much, it'd be worth it.

OT: Meh, looks like the kind of movie I'd have a hard time convincing the gang to go see...probably gonna wait for it on netflix.

 

[Grey_Focks]

dammit forums, give me my post back!

 

[Vrach]

I say, smashing accent ol' boy! Don't really hear Buzz Killington there, it sounds far too embedded in your colon for him really, which is actually a compliment in this context

Anyway, awesome review, just wish I was at all into horror movies, I'm just too much of a scardycat :\

 

[Therumancer]

Sounds like an interesting film, I might see it some day.

As much fun as watching two hot girls go at it is, that in of itself doesn't sell a movie for me. I mean I can buy porn if that's what I want (being 35).

I do like thrillers though, and as you put it, that's some decent icing to put on the cake since I guess it stands well on it's own merits.

 

[the clockmaker]

You see, it is possible to have a mature discussion on sex in films, I jus don't think that Bob is capable of it. He can try and divert our attention all he wants, but the first thing he does whenever an atractive woman is mentioned is throw up a picture of them semi-naked.

No, finding a scene like this arousing does not make it objectifiying, you do. You do when who throw them together to a repeating 'hallelujah', you do when about half your airtime is you giving a breathy '...yeah' over pictures of nearly naked women. I simply link that you lack the maturity to approach this from an angle other than the physical.

 

[mattaui]

This was a fantastic review, and I think you're spot on with the discussion of the sex scene and how people get all uptight or stuck up or turned around in some fashion when that comes up. Clearly some of the replies in this thread fall into that camp, and that just makes me laugh. It's exactly the sort of review I'd expect of an art film from a gaming site, and beats the pants off most 'serious' reviews I've seen for other movies elsewhere.

 

[Marter]

Yeah, I want to go see this. I already wanted to. Then I found out it was getting a limited release, and I won't be able to see it.

*sigh*

Gotta wait for the DVD release, I guess.

 

[winter2]

I seriously wanted to put some hot pokers in my ear canals to block the terrible British accent. Sounds like a good movie though.

 

[Canid117]

The question I have is do you actually see anything? As I recall neither actress has ever shown us anything beyond PG-13 side bood before and if this movie shows both actresses at the same time it will have earned itself a nice little boost at the box office once word gets around.