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artanis_neravar

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TheDrunkNinja said:
canadamus_prime said:
And I repeat: Don't judge everyone else by your standards. I can't just snap my fingers and get over something. Although I really wish I could.
Alright, it's not really about my standards or getting over your problems. My whole spiel is mostly about how people are dealing with those problems. Like you said, I don't know you. I don't know how you deal with them. But I will say, admitting that if you were granted power, you would abuse said power for revenge's sake. Not simple retribution, but fucking murder? That's like admitting you can't be trusted for any real responsibility. Unless you're like an angsty teenager, there's no excuse for that kind of behavior. Again, I don't know you, so I'm not saying you said any of that. This is all on Bob. Hell, I judge Bob more than anyone else since he's the one throwing his past problems in our faces while demanding we still take him seriously. It's childish. And he's ten years older than I am. It's inexcusable.

artanis_neravar said:
And who are you to decide what is childish? What are your qualifications? Have you sat down and talked to him about his life? Do you know exactly what he went through everyday? How about how he has dealt with everything else in his life? You are basing your entire judgement on a few videos that he has made, and except that people deal with things differently. Just because you find something childish, doesn't make it true. i find your judgement of a man that you don't even know to be childish, but that doesn't make it true.
He's the one who put's his past problems in his videos. If he doesn't want my criticism for complaining about how a stupid horror movie from the '90s ruined his early years in life, he shouldn't have put it on a media of mass communication and free-speech like the internet. And he expects me to take his word seriously. It's not going to happen.
If you don't like what he puts in his videos than you don't have to watch them. You claim to have gotten past your own issues but here you are bullying people who haven't gotten past their issues yet.
 

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artanis_neravar said:
TheDrunkNinja said:
canadamus_prime said:
And I repeat: Don't judge everyone else by your standards. I can't just snap my fingers and get over something. Although I really wish I could.
Alright, it's not really about my standards or getting over your problems. My whole spiel is mostly about how people are dealing with those problems. Like you said, I don't know you. I don't know how you deal with them. But I will say, admitting that if you were granted power, you would abuse said power for revenge's sake. Not simple retribution, but fucking murder? That's like admitting you can't be trusted for any real responsibility. Unless you're like an angsty teenager, there's no excuse for that kind of behavior. Again, I don't know you, so I'm not saying you said any of that. This is all on Bob. Hell, I judge Bob more than anyone else since he's the one throwing his past problems in our faces while demanding we still take him seriously. It's childish. And he's ten years older than I am. It's inexcusable.

artanis_neravar said:
And who are you to decide what is childish? What are your qualifications? Have you sat down and talked to him about his life? Do you know exactly what he went through everyday? How about how he has dealt with everything else in his life? You are basing your entire judgement on a few videos that he has made, and except that people deal with things differently. Just because you find something childish, doesn't make it true. i find your judgement of a man that you don't even know to be childish, but that doesn't make it true.
He's the one who put's his past problems in his videos. If he doesn't want my criticism for complaining about how a stupid horror movie from the '90s ruined his early years in life, he shouldn't have put it on a media of mass communication and free-speech like the internet. And he expects me to take his word seriously. It's not going to happen.
If you don't like what he puts in his videos than you don't have to watch them. You claim to have gotten past your own issues but here you are bullying people who haven't gotten past their issues yet.
First of all that is pathetic, you instantly claim Drunken is a bully in that he disagrees with you. He has as much right to disagree and dislike as you do to differ and like and agree.

Secondly it is entirely possible that, like me, he enjoys Bob's stuff in general as Bob can be a very perceptive reviewer but really disliek this victimhood mentality that get's brought in. Human beings don't have to be binary creatures of complete adoration or loathing.

And finally, Bob is a critic, he should expect it to happen back to him. Bob seems to have no compnction for pulling punches when he disagrees with others, so why should I with him.
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
Lieju said:
I was picked on as a kid. A lot.
But my super-power fantasies tended to go the Spider-Man route;
if I had power like that, I would help people, even the bullies, when they got in trouble, because I was better than them and would not sink to their level.
And then they would feel bad.
Glad someone feels the same way even after mass amount of bullying. I too faced those hardships as a kid even though my life wasn't all that difficult to get by. Still, tough times are still tough so props to you bud for being able to overcome hatred (cheesy but true.)
There was one time when I retaliated, in what was pretty much self-defense, and attempted to hit the boy with a piece of wood.
That's one of my worst memories, because its pretty much the only time I wanted to, and tried to, physically hurt someone.
And I'm really glad I missed.

Fantasies are fantasies, but I still feel kinda bad for such revenge-fantasies, and feel bad for nerds being glad when people fight back with violence...

If I had had telekinetic powers when I was in school, I would have messed with the bullies by misplacing their items, scaring them in the dark, making fools of them by making them fall in front of everyone etc.

You know, good clean old-fashioned psychological torment.
 

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Nobody can tell me a damn thing about being bullied. It got so bad when I was in 5th grade, I started walking home with a compass in one hand (the kind with the sharp end that draws circles).

Would I have loved to kick the ass of every bully that ever harassed me? You bet your life. But this revenge fantasy bullshit is, well...bullshit. Anyone who would wish to take out their frustrations on anyone unfortunate enough to be in their vicinity is a weak-minded fool.

Rise above and act like a rational human being for fuck's sake.
 

artanis_neravar

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370999 said:
artanis_neravar said:
TheDrunkNinja said:
canadamus_prime said:
And I repeat: Don't judge everyone else by your standards. I can't just snap my fingers and get over something. Although I really wish I could.
Alright, it's not really about my standards or getting over your problems. My whole spiel is mostly about how people are dealing with those problems. Like you said, I don't know you. I don't know how you deal with them. But I will say, admitting that if you were granted power, you would abuse said power for revenge's sake. Not simple retribution, but fucking murder? That's like admitting you can't be trusted for any real responsibility. Unless you're like an angsty teenager, there's no excuse for that kind of behavior. Again, I don't know you, so I'm not saying you said any of that. This is all on Bob. Hell, I judge Bob more than anyone else since he's the one throwing his past problems in our faces while demanding we still take him seriously. It's childish. And he's ten years older than I am. It's inexcusable.

artanis_neravar said:
And who are you to decide what is childish? What are your qualifications? Have you sat down and talked to him about his life? Do you know exactly what he went through everyday? How about how he has dealt with everything else in his life? You are basing your entire judgement on a few videos that he has made, and except that people deal with things differently. Just because you find something childish, doesn't make it true. i find your judgement of a man that you don't even know to be childish, but that doesn't make it true.
He's the one who put's his past problems in his videos. If he doesn't want my criticism for complaining about how a stupid horror movie from the '90s ruined his early years in life, he shouldn't have put it on a media of mass communication and free-speech like the internet. And he expects me to take his word seriously. It's not going to happen.
If you don't like what he puts in his videos than you don't have to watch them. You claim to have gotten past your own issues but here you are bullying people who haven't gotten past their issues yet.
First of all that is pathetic, you instantly claim Drunken is a bully in that he disagrees with you. He has as much right to disagree and dislike as you do to differ and like and agree.

Secondly it is entirely possible that, like me, he enjoys Bob's stuff in general as Bob can be a very perceptive reviewer but really disliek this victimhood mentality that get's brought in. Human beings don't have to be binary creatures of complete adoration or loathing.

And finally, Bob is a critic, he should expect it to happen back to him. Bob seems to have no compnction for pulling punches when he disagrees with others, so why should I with him.
It wasn't instant, it was after he repeatedly insult Bob for how he deals with his problem. That is bullying.

Secondly he said "he expects me to take his word seriously. It's not going to happen." this reads as him not liking Bob's reviews.
 

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Just got back from watching it, I highly recommend it.
I wish the ending had been different though but it was still good.
Some cgi tweaked to look better, like the toy bear and ping pong ball.
and for the more actiony parts that they didnt rely on the camera view thing
but still really good.
 

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Maybe I will do something for my birthday after all. Cheers Bob, I'll be looking into this.
 

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Do people really get this mad when bob talks about his personal life. By the way he really didn't say anything besides he roots for the villain at the end of the show. And from the two maybe three episodes that he's mentioned his distain from bully's. I haven't seen him mention it much if at all for months. And really if we judge people we don't know it is in fact the same thing as being a bully. OT: not sure I will like this movie, I might see it with friends next week, or wait and rent it when it comes out.
 

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Awesome. My girlfriend and I have been looking forward to this, glad it came out so well. I saw previews and thought it looked promising but I had a big problem with the whole found footage element (didn't know it had a name till now). Tomorrow it's on then.
 

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daxterx2005 said:
MrDeckard said:
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I kind of love you.
Meh, I think I?ll pass. If its anything like his other movies, it?ll be a boring, convoluted, "racially insensitive" and have some really irritating scenes. I personally don?t want to go to a movie for cool explosions and instead get Adam Sandler being lectured by his mother about masturbation.
 

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370999 said:
I think your point at large is fine but having a movie made with an focus ona group of three male friends is fine and probaly made it the better movie.
Why do you think it made the movie "better" by having all the protagonist be male? How would the movie have been inferior by having a predominantly female cast?
 

Hazy992

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I saw the movie the other day. I thought it was awesome although the last 20 minutes or so seemed like they could have been taken from a live action Akira. Seriously, all you'd need would be someone shouting 'KANEDA' and 'TETSUO' and you wouldn't know the difference.
 

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The smile I got from realizing this movie is pretty good became twisted when I saw mention of "Candy Land with Adam Sandler".
I guess some filmmakers have well-functioning brains, while others have brain-AIDS that causes them to not blurt out stupid ideas.
 

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lesterley said:
370999 said:
I think your point at large is fine but having a movie made with an focus ona group of three male friends is fine and probaly made it the better movie.
Why do you think it made the movie "better" by having all the protagonist be male? How would the movie have been inferior by having a predominantly female cast?
Because the writer is probably male and therfore I would imagine he could write men better. Also prehaps this betrays me as some type of sexist monster but when someone says "teenagers dicking around with a video camera" I get the mental image of them being boys. Just from my personnal experience, I dunno, the presmise of a bunch of girls videotaping everything and then getting superpowers seems more outlandish,

I know the whole thing is obviously fantasy, but I find it harder to find a group of girls reacting like that compared to a group of boys. Not sayin you couldn't make a movie about girls getting superpowers but I struggle to imagine it playing out like the writer intended.

I think for me it's like the artistic intent or vision, like if it was intended to be girls then it would be good or if it was intended to be all boys that's fine.

I don't mean to offend you either way.

It wasn't instant, it was after he repeatedly insult Bob for how he deals with his problem. That is bullying.

Secondly he said "he expects me to take his word seriously. It's not going to happen." this reads as him not liking Bob's reviews.
That doesn't strike me as bullying, maybe I'm biased because I tend to think Bob is the type of guy who engages in bad mouthing other people, Bay is a douchbag who makes movies for douchbags, but really it's a couple of posts.

Aye. that is more dubious. Personnally I tend to read as someone more disapointed in trends of Bob's reviewing.

{quote]I would however use the power to seriously change things. If it ended up escalating to a military level conflict. So be it. But the world is in dire need of some drastic changes, and if I was given the ability to instigate these changes. I wouldn't squander them.

That would no doubt earn me the tittle of villain in the eyes of the general public... until I won and wrote my own version of the events that is.
[/quote]


Except how could you win? You have no legitimacy at all. If you were to give me an order i would tell you to fuck off, if you were to enforce it with threat of death I would attempt to organise a group to resit and kill you and if that were to fail I would wait to you died.

Do people really get this mad when bob talks about his personal life. By the way he really didn't say anything besides he roots for the villain at the end of the show. And from the two maybe three episodes that he's mentioned his distain from bully's. I haven't seen him mention it much if at all for months. And really if we judge people we don't know it is in fact the same thing as being a bully. OT: not sure I will like this movie, I might see it with friends next week, or wait and rent it when it comes out.
Get's this mad when he talks about? You see it's so often unnessary and forced in and often I feel it lessens his review where he makes it all about his viewpoint on the world and less about the film's view point and if it's skilled in presenting it.

It's not just disdain, it seems Bob has a set of people who are bullies i.e right wing, sceince hating, white male, religious people compared to Bob's idealised version of his weird left wing group, weird in that it seems to be so inconsistent. Like whenever he talks about politics this percieved bi-polar fight seems to be how he characterises it, which is unhelpful as if you are going to tlak about anything you have to recognsie that there msut be some reason why people disagree with you, especially if they do it in large numbers.

Saying judging him is bullying is silly. Bob judges people all the time i.e the transformers thing, so he doesn't have a strong position there. Besides part of being human is social interaction, and part of that is that everything you do from kissing that girl, to saying that comment has a consequences and alters how you are percieved.
 

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To join in on the topic, I got bullied a lot, for a long time, and mostly physically. Sometimes revenge fantasies popped up, but even in elementary school I knew there's a difference between justice and revenge that can only lead to more violence. If not directed at me, frustration will directed at somebody else, maybe even against oneself. And I didn't want to become what I hated, so I put up with it and ignore it as best I could.

In retrospect that probably just made me more of a target, but I can't say I'm not proud of my decision. Heck one time a guy (rich nerdy type) offered me to get one of his buddies to follow me around and "aggressively protect me". Which just really weirded me out. Thankfully he scrapped the idea after I didn't show up to the spot where I'd meet that bodyguard.
Nothing more creepy than children or pre-teens that act like adults.

If I suddenly had superpowers I'd probably try to find out how they work, to what extent and how they came to be etc. I definitely wouldn't go around flaunting them. It can only cause problems in the long run and it's always a wise decision to be underestimated by (potential) enemies so you keep an ace up your sleeve.
 

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TheDrunkNinja said:
canadamus_prime said:
And I repeat: Don't judge everyone else by your standards. I can't just snap my fingers and get over something. Although I really wish I could.
Alright, it's not really about my standards or getting over your problems. My whole spiel is mostly about how people are dealing with those problems. Like you said, I don't know you. I don't know how you deal with them. But I will say, admitting that if you were granted power, you would abuse said power for revenge's sake. Not simple retribution, but fucking murder? That's like admitting you can't be trusted for any real responsibility. Unless you're like an angsty teenager, there's no excuse for that kind of behavior. Again, I don't know you, so I'm not saying you said any of that. This is all on Bob. Hell, I judge Bob more than anyone else since he's the one throwing his past problems in our faces while demanding we still take him seriously. It's childish. And he's ten years older than I am. It's inexcusable.
Alright, but don't be surprised when people judge you in return.
 

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lesterley said:
Dude. Dude. Dude.
Maybe just silly me, but I think it a decision to market it more towards the target audience. You know. Americans can only sympathize with Americans. Tragedy only hits home when it's in New York. Only nerdy teenage boys are into comicbooks and shounen animanga from which this movie draws influence. So obviously if you want the viewer to identify with the cast, everyone has to be a male, a slut or a love interest.

Y'know.
The reasoning of a "suit".