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artanis_neravar said:
If you don't like what he puts in his videos than you don't have to watch them. You claim to have gotten past your own issues but here you are bullying people who haven't gotten past their issues yet.
I'd tell you how I feel about that, but someone already said it better than I could have:

370999 said:
First of all that is pathetic, you instantly claim Drunken is a bully in that he disagrees with you. He has as much right to disagree and dislike as you do to differ and like and agree.

Secondly it is entirely possible that, like me, he enjoys Bob's stuff in general as Bob can be a very perceptive reviewer but really disliek this victimhood mentality that get's brought in. Human beings don't have to be binary creatures of complete adoration or loathing.

And finally, Bob is a critic, he should expect it to happen back to him. Bob seems to have no compnction for pulling punches when he disagrees with others, so why should I with him.
This is exactly how I feel to a T. But you're answer to this . . .

artanis_neravar said:
It wasn't instant, it was after he repeatedly insult Bob for how he deals with his problem. That is bullying.

Secondly he said "he expects me to take his word seriously. It's not going to happen." this reads as him not liking Bob's reviews.
. . . is only based on assumptions that what 370999 is saying is wrong about me. It's not. He's exactly right. I like Bob's movie reviews. I disagree with some. I hate how he victimizes himself constantly, despite the fact that he takes himself very seriously as a critic. Calling me a bully because of that is seriously immature, dude. It's called criticism. It happens to those who expose themselves to the wide world of media. If my criticism is just too much for him to handle, he shouldn't have gotten into a career where he puts himself on a pedestal in front of the entire world.

If I opened a issue of Game Informer and read an game-review article where the writer talks about his ruined childhood for the first paragraph, it's my right as a reader to criticize him. Not because of his childhood. It's sad that he had a bad childhood, but he shouldn't be writing about it in the first place. Deal with it like an adult. Don't bring me into your personal life by writing about it, or I will give my opinion on it as is my right as a viewer.

This is the way the media world works. If you keep your life off the pedestal, then it's clear you're dealing with your problems like any mature adult. Bob doesn't do this. But that doesn't mean he certainly isn't above doing it himself, but in a more insulting manner than myself:

370999 said:
That doesn't strike me as bullying, maybe I'm biased because I tend to think Bob is the type of guy who engages in bad mouthing other people, Bay is a douchbag who makes movies for douchbags, but really it's a couple of posts.
Man, you clearly have a better understanding of this than most people here. Thanks for pretty much speaking so I didn't have to.
 

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Keith Reedy said:
And drunk ninja no offense but your kinda being a prick.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I don't feel that way about the people who have been disagreeing with me though.

If it was a little too stand-offish, it's been something I've wanted to say to Bob for a while. And, really, this shouldn't be any of our business, but in his videos, he puts those problems on a pedestal and makes it factor in the reviews we watch.

It bugs me, okay? If he didn't do it, I wouldn't have an opinion on it. And upon hearing about it, of course everyone's mind creates an opinion. It's impossible to ignore. The difference is, I directly called it out. I accept the responsibility of the opinions people form from my opinion. That's the way mass communication works. It all starts from a source, and the source is from Bob.
 

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WhiteTigerShiro said:
You guys must have failed hard at Reading Comprehension back in school. Not a single one of those listed are even remotely close to being super hero movies, and some even fail the "doesn't dress like a stripper (or worse)" and/or "life isn't dependent on a male character" requirement.

Anyway, closest I could probably think of off-hand would be Hitgirl from Kick-Ass. Granted that none of the characters are "super" by any means, but the movie/comic still fall into the genre purely by virtue of being a parody/critique on the super hero genre as a whole.
Ok, but if you're talking about just superheros you have to remember that that kind of power fantasy generally comes about as a product of testosterone. It's not really fair to suggest that there aren't enough male fantasies that cater for women. Woman get a different type of heroine. The fifth element would be a good example of the difference. Men want to be Bruce Willis, the power house, action guy who can get things done. Women want to Milla Jovovich, the warm emotianal core that demands respect. Men want to destroy, women want to nurture. It's just the way of things.
 

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I was worried with the relentless advertisements being shoved down my throat that it would be a bad film (compensating quality with heavy PR). I'm relieved it was a decent film. I'll actually bother wanting to go and watch it now.

I've always routed for the bullied kid gets brutal revenge character. Except in Carrie I don't see why the teacher had to die. She tried to help Carrie, and she got punished for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

If I got superpowers, I'd probably go down the Justicar route from Mass Effect.
 

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WhiteTigerShiro said:
Djinn8 said:
lesterley said:
And don't start giving me examples of female superheroes in movies, unless you can give me one who DOESN'T dress like a stripper (or worse), and who has her own life that is not dependent upon a male character.

Ugh.
Let the right one in (debatable)
Girl with the dragon tattoo
Terminator 2
Aliens
Run Lola, run

To name a few off the top of my head.
artanis_neravar said:
These and:
Themla and Louise
Resident Evil
Tomb Raider
Sound of Music
Grease
Fargo
Erin Brokovich
GI Jane
Kill Bill
Blue Crush
Juno
Silence of the Lambs
V for Vendetta
Underworld
You guys must have failed hard at Reading Comprehension back in school. Not a single one of those listed are even remotely close to being super hero movies, and some even fail the "doesn't dress like a stripper (or worse)" and/or "life isn't dependent on a male character" requirement.

Anyway, closest I could probably think of off-hand would be Hitgirl from Kick-Ass. Granted that none of the characters are "super" by any means, but the movie/comic still fall into the genre purely by virtue of being a parody/critique on the super hero genre as a whole.
And you fail worse "action/thriller/sci-fi/superhero"
And no none of those fail the dress like a stripper, or the life dependent on a man criteria
 

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I refuse to watch this solely because of the bombardment of its shitty trailer through the YouTube videos I watch.
 

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WhiteTigerShiro said:
Djinn8 said:
lesterley said:
And don't start giving me examples of female superheroes in movies, unless you can give me one who DOESN'T dress like a stripper (or worse), and who has her own life that is not dependent upon a male character.

Ugh.
Let the right one in (debatable)
Girl with the dragon tattoo
Terminator 2
Aliens
Run Lola, run

To name a few off the top of my head.
artanis_neravar said:
These and:
Themla and Louise
Resident Evil
Tomb Raider
Sound of Music
Grease
Fargo
Erin Brokovich
GI Jane
Kill Bill
Blue Crush
Juno
Silence of the Lambs
V for Vendetta
Underworld
You guys must have failed hard at Reading Comprehension back in school. Not a single one of those listed are even remotely close to being super hero movies, and some even fail the "doesn't dress like a stripper (or worse)" and/or "life isn't dependent on a male character" requirement.

Anyway, closest I could probably think of off-hand would be Hitgirl from Kick-Ass. Granted that none of the characters are "super" by any means, but the movie/comic still fall into the genre purely by virtue of being a parody/critique on the super hero genre as a whole.
The first thing she mentions is sci-fi/action/thriller/superhero, so she's not just saying superhero movies.
 

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SurfinTaxt said:
pg13 ... not worth my time
tbh it looks like a movie for 13 year olds
Yeah everything that is not rated R sucks. You know stuff like
StarWars
IndianaJones
Everybatmanfilm
Patton
Citizen Kane
Apollo 13
Every super hero film excluding Blade/and punisher war zone
Toy Story
True Grit original and remake
Rocky
Back to the Future
Forrest Gump
The Lord Of The Rings
The social Netwok
Ect
Are all terrible and not worth our time because they have a rating below R
 

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The Great JT said:
2. I'm still pissed at the Patriots for beating my Carolina Panthers in the Super Bowl years back, ergo screw those guys and in particular Tom Brady, let's go Giants.
As a fellow Carolinian (of the southern variety), I'd like to offer you a high-five.

On the note of the movie, having just seen it, I'd have to say the concept (and some of the power stuff) was interesting. However, I can't say the characters got me immersed (though I did feel for the bullied kid, though maybe not as much as Bob).
 

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This movie is seriously awesome. I agree with almost everything Bob said here. When you've found a way to patch up the problems of found footage camerawork and angles by tying it the story, you've done something right.

TheDrunkNinja said:
Bob. You're 30. You were bullied when you were a kid.

Get over it. The rest of us "victims" already have. It's time you join us.
... I really have to agree with this. I mean, sure I... Sorta got razzed and whatnot. Nothing that bad, but... Seriously? Especially after seeing this movie, I can't imagine how embittered you'd have to be to root for the crazy killer kid... Jesus, I'm still in school and even though I din't get it that bad, I still realize that the whole bullying thing is just a really childish affair that should really be put behind you once you get to a certain level of maturity.

(Not to belittle anyone's experiences, I'm not saying you reach a certain age and poof, it's all fine, of course these things leave scars, Bob just seems to mention it an awful lot...)
 

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LobsterFeng said:
Is it bad that I don't want to see this movie just because I hate "found footage" movies? Other than that this looks really interesting.
I recommend going to see it. I HATE found footage movies with a passion, but the premise of this film made me go see it. Thing is, as their powers develop the character with the camera just makes it hover behind him. This meant that for the rest of the movie, I totally forgot it was 'found footage'.

But overall Bob, I think you were wrong on this film. It's an amazing film and I challenge anyone to walk out of the film NOT wanting super powers.

CODE-D said:
Just got back from watching it, I highly recommend it.
I wish the ending had been different though but it was still good.
Some cgi tweaked to look better, like the toy bear and ping pong ball.
and for the more actiony parts that they didnt rely on the camera view thing
but still really good.
I know what you mean about the ending, I felt a bit cheated.

The Teddy Bear bit was hilarious. The film at the start is actually quite funny. It's only later on into the film does it become a bit more serious.
 

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What is it with you and backing villains? The guys from this movie, Magneto, and most despicably of all the New England Patriots?!
Especially when they're going up against the most likable team in the league.
I mean supporting the Red Sox is dumb, but the Sox are like your dopey loser younger brother. The Patriots are just bad people.
 

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Just saw this, and for once I agree with Moviebob. It's an unexpected gem. Don't take any notice of the trailer (which is one of the worst I've ever seen btw, and obnoxiously gives away pretty much the entire plot of the movie).

And FTR, the spider scene - you'll know it when you see it - made my skin crawl. Little touches like that are what elevate this film beyond standard genre fare.
 

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Definitely agree with Bob on this one. It is my favourite film of the year so far. Possibly only The Hobbit could top it.
 

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Leaving aside any potential debates about personal issues or football...

Chronicle was AWESOME. I loved just about every second of it. Even though I couldn't exactly root for the bullied kid at the end (he delved a little too deeply into the sociopath end of the pool for that in my opinion- the scene with the teeth? And the spider? *shiver*), I certainly felt a whole lot of pity for him. Talented cast playing interesting, well-rounded characters guided by a director who has an extremely bright future. It certainly has the potential to remain a personal favorite of mine throughout the year.
 

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If you haven't seen this yet, listen to Bob and go see it. Absolutely fantastic, one of the best movies I've seen in a long time, and if you were bullied or had a rough childhood this one may very emotionally effect you too. Though he is completely right, you can outright tell which one will be which from the minute they're all introduced.
 

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TheDrunkNinja said:
canadamus_prime said:
And I repeat: Don't judge everyone else by your standards. I can't just snap my fingers and get over something.
Alright, it's not really about my standards or getting over your problems. My whole spiel is mostly about how people are dealing with those problems. Like you said, I don't know you. I don't know how you deal with them. But I will say, admitting that if you were granted power, you would abuse said power for revenge's sake. Not simple retribution, but fucking murder? That's like admitting you can't be trusted for any real responsibility. Unless you're like an angsty teenager, there's no excuse for that kind of behavior. Again, I don't know you, so I'm not saying you said any of that. This is all on Bob. Hell, I judge Bob more than anyone else since he's the one throwing his past problems in our faces while demanding we still take him seriously. It's childish. And he's ten years older than I am. It's inexcusable.

artanis_neravar said:
And who are you to decide what is childish? Snip
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Wrong. That IS admitting you can't be trusted for any real responsibility. Regardless of being an angsty teenager, there's no excuse for that kind of behavior.

I was bullied from kindergarten till High School. I was the tall, fat, bespectacled, AND socially-awkward kid which made my life an inveritable hell of being alone the majority of my childhood. The first friend I had was an outcast just like me, but after just 1 yr he moved and I was alone again (that was 2nd grade). Every year it was rumor after rumor ranging from a serious case of head lice, anorexia, or mental retardation. By 7th grade my confidence=nothing, but self-loathing and I began entertaining thoughts of suicide to end my existence. However, divine intervention saved my life and I learned to not let the daily insults affect me, but that doesn't mean I never forgot them. I remember every single rumor and insult as a personal reminder to never stoop to that level of hate. Unlike Bob, who is disturbingly content to stake claims in the childhood-bully-sadistic-revenge-fantasy camp.

I was very angry at my oppressors, but given the opportunity to have superpowers to hurt them? Absolutely not. It's disturbing to hear someone say if they had powers they would hunt down their past oppressors and murder them. Your judgment on Bob is completely justified based on him freely admitting the intent to murder his bullies if he had the chance. It has nothing to do with 'getting over it'

The worse part? He keeps bringing up the Columbine High School Massacre and giving that as an example of the bullied kids fighting back. It is disgusting. Ever heard of Rachel Scott? I knew her best friend and she shared her story. Rachel never bullied Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold, they killed her because she was Christian and the same goes for Daniel Mauser(Catholic). In fact, before they shot Daniel, according to the footage they made fun of his glasses and called him a nerd. They were bullied, yes, but they were severely disturbed as well. They fought with their bosses, cursed out teachers, and wrote journal entries showing patterns consistent with "malignant narcissism." They were psychopaths.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Harris_and_Dylan_Klebold

And Bob is honestly defending that kind of behavior? I have never seen such pettiness retained for so long in a human being. Grow up, Bob.

EDIT: In my anger and foolishness I typed out this message. I will not delete it because I do not think it would be right to pretend I never acted like this. I went against my morals, stooped to the level of personal insult that I despised so much, and for that I am a true hypocrite. I have disgraced my faith and severely misrepresented my God.

To Bob Chipman: I can only sincerely apologize for my immaturity and rude behavior online. Although I often disagree with you there is no justification for my above response. Shalom.
 

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This movie toward the end actually really scared me because it was really frightening to see a character self-destruct like andrew did. I felt like it was a metaphor for any kind of power, such as a school-shooting, or someone using a bomb. I really want didnt to be alone after that movie, because all I could think was "what if that were me, or someone I knew?" Also I feel like it was stating that there is no such thing as evil, only misunderstood. amazingly well done movie, convincing acting and great pacing, as well as above-average cinematography. The special effects weren't bad either. This movie is definitely made my personal top ten movies of all time list