Escape to the Movies: Inception
- Thread starter MovieBob
- Start date
I want to love this movie so much. But it suffers from the same either this or that problem that I had with Shutter Island.
Shutter Island:
Inception:
I just want to watch a movie where DiCaprio is either a homicidal maniac or a humble gardener.
BUT HE'S REALLY AN ALIEN! Ok that's bad but this movie died for me when
Shutter Island:
Either there is a massive conspiracy on an island that houses a mental institution, or the protagonist is crazy and a patient of said institution. In Shutter Island, DiCaprio is crazy.
Inception:
Either DiCaprio is living in reality at the beginning of the movie and willing to do anything to see his kids again or he's dreaming and his dreams have just become more elaborate. Personally, I think he's dreaming because at the end 1. the top is still spinning 2 the kids haven't changed(children grow fast at that age) 3 the kids are exactly where he last saw them 4 I think they were wearing the same clothes 5 all of the "kicks" that brought them back to "reality" were perfectly timed despite all the complications.
I just want to watch a movie where DiCaprio is either a homicidal maniac or a humble gardener.
BUT HE'S REALLY AN ALIEN! Ok that's bad but this movie died for me when
Cobb (DiCaprio) said that inception had been done before and no one asked for details as to when or where
I had some problems with this film. When I first saw the poster what I noticed was that they really seemed to be showing off that everyone had guns. In the films there is a lot of shoot outs and fist fights that had noting to do with the plot and were just kind of pointless and out of place. They were just fighting goons, like it was a computer game. Their goal wasnt to harm someone and the 'bad guy' was actually quite nice. I really think the action sequences were not needed and took away from the film, unlike say in the matrix. At least it was better than Shutter island.
I liked the mind bending aspects of the story, but there's something I had a problem with...
What exactly is the psychological metaphor for killing projections of the subconscious with bullets and grenades? What were the guns representative of? Is it the infiltrators' will overpowering that of the dreamer's sub-conscious defenses one projection at a time? Does anyone remember the explanation for that if there was one?
i think he's still dreaming... his wife was right and he should have believed her... for one thing, the children in the end was still wearing the same clothes like in his dreams.. another, the issue before that he was being chased by authorities, its like what happens when one realizes he's in a dream, all the people chases the dreamer.. well its just my opinion.. but i really think he's still dreaming...
Thanks for the spoiler warning. I saw it last night, Sunday, and I am going to see it again later this week. I absolutely loved it.
There's so much in the movie that pays homage to Dr.s Jung/Freud and their views on the subconscious. I mean the movie even slaps you in the face with it when they wake up in the ocean. Just a fantastic movie all the way around.
There's so much in the movie that pays homage to Dr.s Jung/Freud and their views on the subconscious. I mean the movie even slaps you in the face with it when they wake up in the ocean. Just a fantastic movie all the way around.
I went to see this movie. I didn't have as good an experience with it because I couldn't hear a good 40% of the dialog over the background soundtrack(I heard only 10% of anything the Japanese CEO said). I don't know if it was the theater's sound system was poorly balanced(I could also hear the rattle of the speaker mountings during some of the louder, bass-heavy moments) or if the mixing of the tracks in the movie itself was poorly done. I found the bass over-emphasized, the background music track sitting in the foreground where the dialog should have been, and the timing of swells in the music track to be inconsistent and sometimes incongruous to the action in the movie.
Normally, I love this kind of twisting mind-screw type movie, but, the total experience I had was corrupted by the sonic experience of the movie.
The overall plot is fairly straight-forward, and there aren't any real surprise twists, in my opinion, unless you want to spend time scratching your head over the implications of the ending(which my friend and I had a great deal of fun doing). However, this is not necessarily a bad thing. I can certainly see myself enjoying this movie more if it were not for the bad sound situation I experienced.
Normally, I love this kind of twisting mind-screw type movie, but, the total experience I had was corrupted by the sonic experience of the movie.
The overall plot is fairly straight-forward, and there aren't any real surprise twists, in my opinion, unless you want to spend time scratching your head over the implications of the ending(which my friend and I had a great deal of fun doing). However, this is not necessarily a bad thing. I can certainly see myself enjoying this movie more if it were not for the bad sound situation I experienced.
I've just got back from seeing it, and my mind is reeling. I think it was incredible. Going into the theatre, I feared that I might lose the thread of the plot, as it's said to be so complicated - and they're right, it is. But I thankfully managed to follow pretty much all of it, and love Christopher Nolan right now.
A funny little anecdote: when the lights went up, all the people around me immediately started apologising to each other for being a distraction, and no-one knew what the hell everyone else was talking about. Seriously, everyone in the theatre had been shouting out, gasping, making comments, but had been so enthralled that we didn't even notice that everyone around us was doing the exact same thing.
I've not got into a movie on that level in a very long time.
A funny little anecdote: when the lights went up, all the people around me immediately started apologising to each other for being a distraction, and no-one knew what the hell everyone else was talking about. Seriously, everyone in the theatre had been shouting out, gasping, making comments, but had been so enthralled that we didn't even notice that everyone around us was doing the exact same thing.
I've not got into a movie on that level in a very long time.
the spoiler really didn't spoil much. The plot is so straightforward it could be a childrens story. In fact, after my head stopped spinning, I realised how thin the plot was (and how even our dreams, when you remove the emotional attachments, are usually really simple) but it's a good thing. If it was more complicated this movie would've been a total mess.
Saw it today on your recommendation. While good, not nearly as confusing or shocking as I could have hoped. Indeed, it was easy to follow, and the only real complexity is when you start picking at the threads to see what holes you can make. It is a movie with plenty of plot holes as it is, especially the ending.
However, despite these discrepancies, I enjoyed the film thoroughly. Yes I was excessively critical of it, but I had high expectations, I went to be challenged. On that count, I have not been tested greatly by this film, and consider District 9 a more sophisticated neural probing than this, but by no means felt it lacked in depth. Acting was brilliant, Ellen Page and Joseph Gordon-Levitt particularly powerful performances. A dash of humour on occasion was not unwarranted, and despite my leg aching like a ***** and my arse numb as Peter Andres cerebral cortex, I was hooked until the end.
If Mal wanted so badly to prove to him that the real(?) world was just another layer of the dream why not use the same damned method he employed! Spin the totem! If it keeps spinning it's a dream! Where was the necessity in the emotional turmoil and suicide, when proof was a top spin a way?! The film makes it clear she's aware of how these dream states work, it's abysmal that this is omitted.
However this is hardly the only oversight in this film full of unexplained circumstance and contradictions of the numerous rules, without enforcement by our tormented lead. A Google search of Inception Plot Holes revealed others that noticed the numerous inconsistencies in this film.
However this is hardly the only oversight in this film full of unexplained circumstance and contradictions of the numerous rules, without enforcement by our tormented lead. A Google search of Inception Plot Holes revealed others that noticed the numerous inconsistencies in this film.
However, despite these discrepancies, I enjoyed the film thoroughly. Yes I was excessively critical of it, but I had high expectations, I went to be challenged. On that count, I have not been tested greatly by this film, and consider District 9 a more sophisticated neural probing than this, but by no means felt it lacked in depth. Acting was brilliant, Ellen Page and Joseph Gordon-Levitt particularly powerful performances. A dash of humour on occasion was not unwarranted, and despite my leg aching like a ***** and my arse numb as Peter Andres cerebral cortex, I was hooked until the end.
I'm mostly with you on this one, but just to be clear:Badassassin said:
It's not that he couldn't see his kids' faces in the dream, he refused to do so, lest he be tempted to stay and not wake up. At least, that's the impression I got from the way it was told.
And I too wasn't exactly tearing my hair out, but I dunno if we can be so confident in this conclusion. Either way, it's doing the job well (making everyone talk).