Escape to the Movies: Red Tails

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wowthisishard said:
Would be an alright review if you didn't needlessly jump in pre-emptively to attack people who (in the case where it's relevant, in other words the Star Wars franchise) take the only sensible position on the matter. By forcing the issue, you only make yourself look like a massive jackass.
As much as I like to stick up for Movie Bob on most issues... Yeah I got that feeling too. Yeah, they'll be a few butthurt fans of the other movies (I'm one of them) however, I'd like to remain objective and view a movie based on its own merits and not who was behind it. Instead I've already been preemptively attacked for hating the movie because I refuse to acknowledge the existence of the Star Wars prequels.

I had no intention of discussing anything to do with Star Wars, though now you've sort of opened the flood gates for that to happen.

Also, from what I've seen and read recently, you seem to have a thing against other rising critics... I don't get this.

Otherwise, I might give this film a try next time I get paid, been meaning to get some cinema time behind me. Its been a while and there's nothing much else out. What I will criticize this movie for is the marketing, so far I've heard nothing about the movie, if you'd not reviewed it and I hadn't hurt a couple Star Wars fans talking about it, this film would have probably slipped under my radar.
 

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thank you bob for finally saying what iv been feeling for forever! enough with the Lucas bashing!!! we get he made some changes to his movies and made a couple of less then stellar prequels. I'm just so sick of being able to predict with godlike accuracy that when eve hes brought up someones going to ***** about him and make jokes about him playing with his "junk" and making bad movies that stopped being funny(if they ever were) years ago! are we so jaded and angry that we cant remember the good things he gave us? seriously?!?!!?


OT:didn't know how to approach this movie withe it was going to be a wesley snipes kind of film where everyone who's white is immediately evil and racist or the opposite where its completely white washed and every things hunky Dorry and the Americans are gleefully killing those evil Nazis with a smile on there face.

its nice to know that it seems like it falls somewhere in the middle the fact that that Aaron McGruder is included in there tells me that there's definitely some edge to it with out it being too dark ( racist pun not intended) but is played up much like sands of iwo jima and its ilk. definitely thinking of giving this one a try
 

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I am dying, absolutely dying to see this film! Thankfully it turns out to be good and now I am even more excited about seeing it.
 

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Just a quick "thank you" Bob for reviewing the movie instead of dwelling on Lucas, but also not ignoring that topic. It's been disappointing that so much chatter leading up to this has centered around the Jar Jar Binks man making a movie with an African American cast. Which isn't to say that isn't a point worth making, but it's gotten rather overwhelming on the internet.

Dear god is it difficult typing with CF's avatar staring at me. :D
 

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LaBambaMan said:
Actually Bob, if I may;

I'd say the Tuskegee Airmen got quite a good film made about them the the horrors they faced both from the enemy and from their own government in the 1995 film "The Tuskegee Airmen" staring Laurence Fishburne, Cuba Gooding Jr.(who is also in Red Tails), Allen Payne, Malcom Jamal-Warner and John Lithgow to name a few.
Yeah this is what I was going to see. I didn't remember the exact name of the film or which year it came out, but with everyone talking about them getting their due for 'the first time' I couldn't help but remember seeing a well done movie about this guys 10+ years ago and wondering what the hell people were talking about.
 

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If I recall, The Tuskegee Airmen (1995) was quite good. I might take the time to see this one as well.
 

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I liked the first underworld movie. Two...err...I kind of feel it loses its way around the middle with the captain and stuff. Rise of the Lycans...cool, but rather inconsquential. The forth one I'm not too sure about specially since Michael was a such an important part of the first two movies and he's not in this one at all. Selene may be seen in the trailer going "Where's Michael?!" but since Scott Speedman was simply not cast the answer is clearly "not in this movie", and so deflates the whole tense issue that I guess she's supposed to have.
 

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I was going to see Haywire anyway, since I like Gina Carano and I like "super-agent betrayed by own agency and goes rogue to stop them" movies, even if this is like the 20th version of this story since the Cold War ended. Having more realistic action over the usual CGI/shaky-cam silliness just cinched it.

wowthisishard said:
Would be an alright review if you didn't needlessly jump in pre-emptively to attack people who (in the case where it's relevant, in other words the Star Wars franchise) take the only sensible position on the matter. By forcing the issue, you only make yourself look like a massive jackass.
The sensible position would be, "George Lucas released the horrible prequel trilogy and changed the original movies so I no longer like them. And he seems to ignore the concerns of his fanbase, or at least, weighs their complaints against the millions of dollars people still continue to pay him. I will stop giving him my money, and my attention, and move on to other things I do like." Trust me, there will be a lot less bile and negativity in your life if you do this.
 

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Bob you're putting your personal opinions into a video again! Don't you know Real Reviewers are supposed to be 100% objective???

Seriously though, this looks super cheesy. The trailer made me cringe ("Courage has no colour? Really?), I don't think I could watch an entire movie of that.

Would be an alright review if you didn't needlessly jump in pre-emptively to attack people who (in the case where it's relevant, in other words the Star Wars franchise) take the only sensible position on the matter.

Oh noes, someone on the internet is "attacking" you. Better call the SWAT team.
 

wooty

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Wait wait wait, have I missed something? People are slating a completely unrelated movie because Lucas once thought up jarjar binks?
 

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MatParker116 said:
Bob two of the photos you used are Meisha Tate (A Far more successful MMA Fighter than Gina) and Jiu Jitsu champion Kyra Gracie.
Yikes! Good catch, boy do I feel silly. Time to break down and buy a clearer monitor (this thing is still standard-def!)
 

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wooty said:
Wait wait wait, have I missed something? People are slating a completely unrelated movie because Lucas once thought up jarjar binks?
I've seen it. There are people who don't like the prequels and there are people who the prequels killed their pet, stole their money, and generally ruined their life it seems.

Quite frankly I'm a sucker for war movies. I'll have to go see this one.
 
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MovieBob said:
Red Tails

George Lucas chronicles the Tuskegee Airmen.

Watch Video
Pretty sure they've made a movie on this subject before Bob...give me a moment


http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tuskegee_airmen/

Yup, here it is.

And oh look! It was aparently good.

So, I am not sure what you mean about this topic not being covered before...

OT: I thought this movie could have been good, but it was just so pathetically marketed for me to have any interest in it, that being said, I say we are all a little hard on Lucas now and again...although his interview on Jon Stewart made him seem impossibly ignorant.
 

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wowthisishard said:
Would be an alright review if you didn't needlessly jump in pre-emptively to attack people who (in the case where it's relevant, in other words the Star Wars franchise) take the only sensible position on the matter. By forcing the issue, you only make yourself look like a massive jackass.
Yeah, I am sick and tired of Bob's nerd-baiting routine. For the most part I agree with what he is saying, but his tone is so full of self-righteous indignation* that it obfuscates everything he says. It's funny, when I first came across The Escapist I thought Bob was the one adult in the room. Since then I have come to realize that he is the biggest man-child around, and he makes Doug Walker (aka The Nostalgia Critic) look like Carl Sagan.

*I am aware of the irony that my username is Indignator and yet I am complaining about others being indignant.
 

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Okay,
GunGans.........Nerd Rage
Ewoks............Somewhat less Nerd Rage
REvamped releases.....Uber Nerd Rage

Now that I have the obligatory nerd rage completed..... I actually am looking forward to this film to a great extent, I even put the 1995 film on my netflix que so as to see two takes on the subject and see which I like more. I hope it tuns out well in the end.