UtopiaV1 said:
GrinningManiac said:
2:17
D-Day landing craft design (front collapsing ramp)...with oars sticking out of the sides.
Never mind the fact that the correct sealing techniques were not around in 1200, and the craft would sink from leaks in the ramp door, this design did not exist in 1890, never mind the Days of John Lackland
Also, I'm not entirely sure what the 30th century analogy meant. Are you actually, in a confusing way, saying the 30th century man is complaining that the Robin Hood film - which was made in the 21st century - has a longbow in it? In which case : I'm fairly sure that in the next 9 centuries, humans will not loose the ability to recognise that a film made in a given timeframe need not be set to the same date within the film itself.
Finally, there is an incredible difference between knowing how to ride a horse and having a fully-armed and -armoured unit of cavalry charging into a pitched battle. I'm fairly sure you can paint a stickman. This does not mean you can recreate the mona lisa.
So don't be a smarmy bugger with me again, it's just unpleasant. Argue with me all you like, but don't use obnoxious sarcasm. My 14-year old brother does the same thing (teenagers...) and it drives me up the wall.
Alright, point taken, the sarcasm was very childish of me, i apologise.
The point i was making with the whole Longbow thing was that technology is not confined to the year of it's conception. People still use ancient designs today, and they certainly used those designs back when they were brand new! Who's to say that boats with a ramp at the front were ONLY designed in the 20th century? Designs for machines of war came and went so many times throughout history, Leonardo Da Vinci designed the world's first tank and helicopter (neither of which actually worked very well when they were finally built very recently). Higgins boats (or D-Day boats, whatever) were first used in WW2 but the designs could (didn't, but could, suspending disbelief here) have been drawn up sooner. People in the past weren't stupid (medicinal practices, racial intolerance and low hygiene standards aside), they just had limited tools and materials available.
If the sealant back then wasn't able to keep a raft afloat, then how did all the other ships in the movie stay above sinking level? Hard work and attention to detail i'll wager, making sure the wooden planks meet each-other and seal up the body of the vessel just right. Why not add a ramp at the front? This is all hypothetical anyway, we all KNOW they didn't have those types of ships back then (no need of them, warfare was much more slow and ponderous back then, no-one really needed to disembark from ships that quickly), but you do see my point? It's all not impossible, and certainly doesn't make this a bad movie, just because it asks us to suspend a little disbelief! Personally, I could have done without those silly boats in the film, they really seemed out of place and unnecessary, but I see why Mr Scott put them in (wanted to make at least SOMETHING for American audiences to identify with).
Also, art is only attractive relative to the observer. I believe the Mona Lisa is overrated, so if I invested every second of every day trying to make something as good as it I'd like to think I'd be able to create something that I find more beautiful, not you or anyone else, but me. I'm not sure (don't know enough about medieval warfare), but I think ordering cavalry around is more methodical and has more to do with science than art necessarily does. Point is, there were many great cavalry generals, but only one man painted the Mona Lisa. Ordering cavalry around is a skill to be learnt, painting a work of art is the result of a lifetimes' worth of talent from an individual, and cannot be taught. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Oh gosh, sorry for the long post.
