Escape to the Movies: Sucker Punch
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I just came back from watching it with my girlfriend, and I've got to say it was quite good. Visually entertaining, the music was fabulous, the actresses were great and the story was just the right amount of confusing with a pretty damn morbid ending. And that old guy was hella badass.
Two things about this movie: #1) It treats hot women almost like when you get caught smoking and your parents make you smoke an entire carton. By the end, you're just not looking at the hotness of the women in the same way, and you cease to care about it.
#2) After the first fight scene with the stone samurai giants, I leaned over to my friend and said: " Is it wierd to have a boner right now?" Then he said: "It would be wierd not to have a boner."
#2) After the first fight scene with the stone samurai giants, I leaned over to my friend and said: " Is it wierd to have a boner right now?" Then he said: "It would be wierd not to have a boner."
I hated Watchmen, and I hated Scott Pilgrim. One was because of the film director and one was because of the story. So Bob praising this so much confused me after seeing previews, especially with bringing them into it.
Having seen it, I really wonder if Bob lets his obvious adoration for that director get in the way of his objectivity. I disagree with nearly everything said in this review. While it may be a movie worth seeing, I don't feel that it's worth seeing twice, and only saw it once because my friends wanted to and I wanted to gauge it for myself. One guy liked it for action sequences and music. One guy liked it for 'hot chicks fighting while wearing almost nothing'. The other girl felt it was overall 'meh' and that nothing stood out, and that it had a lot of problems. I feel as though the action parts were acceptable (but had a few flaws, such as the repetitiveness of the whole 'slow mo jump and twirl over some danger object then land gracefully' bit). I didn't have any connection with the characters- I basically shut my mind off and sat there watching a nearly video game tier presentation jump around.
My biggest argument with it is a major spoiler so I won't post it here. Suffice to say that I'd like to take any and all claims that it's a female empowerment movie and shove them where the sun don't shine, since no female is either actually empowered, or even manages to succeed by herself/on her own. EVER. A voice-over or few lines of dialogue mean nothing when a different message is visually hammered into you.
Also, who makes a movie where not a single female character ever wears full length proper pants.
Also, did anyone else feel like some of the "hero" portions felt kind of like final fantasy, especially with Rocket's ridiculous hair spikes?
Having seen it, I really wonder if Bob lets his obvious adoration for that director get in the way of his objectivity. I disagree with nearly everything said in this review. While it may be a movie worth seeing, I don't feel that it's worth seeing twice, and only saw it once because my friends wanted to and I wanted to gauge it for myself. One guy liked it for action sequences and music. One guy liked it for 'hot chicks fighting while wearing almost nothing'. The other girl felt it was overall 'meh' and that nothing stood out, and that it had a lot of problems. I feel as though the action parts were acceptable (but had a few flaws, such as the repetitiveness of the whole 'slow mo jump and twirl over some danger object then land gracefully' bit). I didn't have any connection with the characters- I basically shut my mind off and sat there watching a nearly video game tier presentation jump around.
My biggest argument with it is a major spoiler so I won't post it here. Suffice to say that I'd like to take any and all claims that it's a female empowerment movie and shove them where the sun don't shine, since no female is either actually empowered, or even manages to succeed by herself/on her own. EVER. A voice-over or few lines of dialogue mean nothing when a different message is visually hammered into you.
Also, who makes a movie where not a single female character ever wears full length proper pants.
Also, did anyone else feel like some of the "hero" portions felt kind of like final fantasy, especially with Rocket's ridiculous hair spikes?
Obviously Bob has not seen any Pakistani or Indian drama,otherwise he would not say "every movie panders to a male audience". Almost every one of the has men as the bad guys and everyone of them is panders to a female audience. And even those that aren't like "Nadaniyan"(which introduced the Pakistani Mr Bean to TV audience) shows men as stupid.
That is why I can't even beer listening to my sisters watching Pakistani or Indian dramas right in the next room.
The only good Pakistani movies I can think of are "Khuda Ke Liye" and "Jinnah The Movie".
Also, I knew from the trailers themselves that this would make men the evil villains. So I hated this movie even before hearing this review because I have already heard too much of Pakistani's media's anti-male bias and can not tolerate any more from this movie.
That is why I can't even beer listening to my sisters watching Pakistani or Indian dramas right in the next room.
The only good Pakistani movies I can think of are "Khuda Ke Liye" and "Jinnah The Movie".
Also, I knew from the trailers themselves that this would make men the evil villains. So I hated this movie even before hearing this review because I have already heard too much of Pakistani's media's anti-male bias and can not tolerate any more from this movie.
I liked watchmen. It had its epic moments. But I wouldn't even approach praising it to the point that Bob does. And now in this review he seems more inclined to talk about how amazing Snyder is for directing Watchmen than anything to do with Sucker Punch. I think I'm going to side with the overwhelming critical opinion here and give this one a miss.
Also: regarding Watchmen. How is that a movie that will satisfy pure action fans? Are you kidding me? It's 2 and a half hours long, and that's not even the vastly superior directors cut. The action scenes are generally pretty durned good, especially when they include Jackie Earl, but there's way too much other stuff padding it out... whatever. Point is that I do not trust any bob review for a Zack Snyder film, he is way too much fanboy and not enough critic. My opinion
Also: regarding Watchmen. How is that a movie that will satisfy pure action fans? Are you kidding me? It's 2 and a half hours long, and that's not even the vastly superior directors cut. The action scenes are generally pretty durned good, especially when they include Jackie Earl, but there's way too much other stuff padding it out... whatever. Point is that I do not trust any bob review for a Zack Snyder film, he is way too much fanboy and not enough critic. My opinion
Boy, the box office is really struggling. I hope this teaches Hollywood a lesson. The American consumer is rejecting what you're trying to do, Hollywood execs. It's 2011 and you better get with times soon, guys, I don't care how bitter you are.
I understand what your trying to say but that does sound ever so slightly close-minded. The film is not out in the UK yet so I cannot comment on its merits, but you sound like the kind of person that wouldn't go see Kick-Ass because of the name. This may not have been your intention but it is how you came across to me.Dora said:
I went and saw it yesterday, it was pretty much everything movie bob said it was. I think the people that generally don't like Zack Snyder are going to hate this movie though, it is pretty much the purest form of Zack Snyder every (Seeing as he co wrote it, came up with the story, directed, and produced it).Burck said:
I saw it last night and loved it. People have to understand that the film is a fantasy, and not necessarily a sexual one. When I was growing up, I would often create elaborate fantasies to disguise unpleasant events that were occurring. I would be a prisoner escaping from a dingy castle dungeon when my parents made me go walk the dog in the snow, or a forlorn slave girl when I had to wash the dishes or do laundry. So on that level, it made sense to me. It was an escapism fantasy, designed to help the fantasizer (who is not necessarily the person we all think it is, as my friend pointed out) find the strength to deal with bad circumstances. A lot of people in the movie theater were commenting (loudly) that they "didn't get it" and that "it sucks," but I think those people don't understand that it's not the audience's fantasy, it's the character's. Personally, I thought it was brilliant and I will probably go see it again at least 2 more times. 
The ending was weird and unstatisfying, but everything until that was awesome.
Also, WWI German steampunk zombies in zeppelins.
Also, WWI German steampunk zombies in zeppelins.
Then go watch it.roostuf said:
Movie Bob put it up there, it will be a polarizing movie. I was very impressed with it. The soundtrack, the visuals, most of the script.
Yes, it's not a perfect movie. The one thing I was never able to figure out was exactly when the movie took place. For some reason, that just kind of bugs me when a movie is grounded in some type of reality similar to our own, but I can't figure out when it was. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to a specific set of frames. Some of the main characters probably could have used a bit more fleshing out.