Escape to the Movies: The Amazing Spider-Man
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I give this movie all the credit in the world for not making Gwen Stacy a damsel in distress, although they came pretty close. That being said there are some things I didn't like in the movie but all of the 'just so happens' are not too outlandish: it is because Richard Parker works on the cross-species whatever that Peter gets his powers and he is hired to work for Norman with Connors who is looking to grow a new arm; it is mostly centered around Richard Parker and the only real 'just so happens' is Gwen working for Dr. Connors. I can understand where you might be coming from Bob but I personally disagree with your assessment.
I saw this at the midnight showing in IMAX 3D and I honestly thought it was pretty good. I actually thought it was a pretty awesome movie. Admittedly, I know next to nothing about the character and backstory of Spiderman, and I'm not a particularly harsh critic when it comes to movies, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.
and like 90% of every other movie ever, thing is it's not so much that teen romance itself is bad, it's just when the focus is more on teen romance than other meaningful hero development, or development of the relationship between the hero and villian, because as far as I'm concerned if I'm watching a movie based on a comic book hero I'd far rather see awesome villian/hero interaction than a hero turning emo over a girl, especially since when it comes to comic book heroes and lasting relationships, the girl will predictably become his foil later(being kidnapped, demanding his attention when it should be on a worse danger to more people, or revealing his identity accidentally or something), it's cut and paste and cut and paste again, only time this isn't the case is when she's got powers or abilities too.Carpenter said:
I will put spiderman 2 into a showcase of a good balance here, since we're talking spiderman. Sure he had his relationship qualms, but the movie also had a good deal of focus on developing a relationship of sorts between peter and doc oc. and although peter did get emotional, he was always like that, it's just part of his coming of age/hero identity crisis journey, he doesn't flip flop and change how he is, as peter parker he's your standard wussy gangly late teen given powers, and shown that he has to man the fuck up and make a stand against all the bastards out there intent on killing stealing and destroying what isn't there. This idealism was passed on to him by his uncle and shortly pounded home through his death, and this shows In how he reacts and relates to everyone, and he stays true to it, all the way through.
In other words it's all about balance, and from what I can tell from what Bob and a few of my friends have been saying, this spiderman movie is mainly just a peter parker teen romance movie, with action and a baddie crowbarred in, and the character family origin stuff is different now. Doesn't really interest me, if someone brings it over on DVD or something at some point I'll watch it, or like when it hits netflix, but theaters are expensive, and I'd rather not spend money on something I don't think I'll like all that much.
I grew up on the original movies so even after Spider-Man 3 I REALLY didn't want them remaking the movies, I wanted Spider-Man 4! The Lizard was the only part of this movie that made me want to see it, because he was one of my favorite villains and I myself always used him for my versions of Spider-Man's origin. I've heard from just about every review even the positive ones that Lizard wasn't handled well so.... Yeah, if someone invites me to go with them to the movie I'll go but other-wise I'll pass. I'll probably at least be renting the new game though, looks like it might be good, still love Spider-Man 2, was just playing it on my good ol' PS2 last week.
This was the cheapest looking superhero movie since the 90's. There are like 2 genuine action scenes and they are painfully simplistic and bland. I'll stick with the Raimi Movies. Also Gwen Stacy's dad was J.J.J without any of the charm.
Long Story Short: Movie Bob is overreacting, like he does.
This movie is way better than given credit for. No its not perfect. But its a solid summer flick and a decent Superhero movie. Its not Spider-man 3. Its miles ahead of that.
Seriously fellow escapists, this comment may be buried 10 pages in, but I hope someone hears this: This is worth watching.
This movie is way better than given credit for. No its not perfect. But its a solid summer flick and a decent Superhero movie. Its not Spider-man 3. Its miles ahead of that.
Seriously fellow escapists, this comment may be buried 10 pages in, but I hope someone hears this: This is worth watching.
I'm pretty sure he's hammering the point that this shouldn't be a movie. meaning this only exists so Sony can continue to have the rights asap.Jetsetneo said:
No, Green Lantern on crack is worth watching. A movie that completely rewrites vital Spider-Man cannon, not so much. But hey, its only an opinion.Jetsetneo said:
I did hear that if they did go with Spider-Man 4, the new villain would be Mystirio played by Bruce Campbell and all his cameo scenes in previous ones were all the same character. So all those in favour of Spider-Man 4 over this?
Even to the point of crossing your fingers until your break them, it won't happen why?MrBrightside919 said:
because people are sucker for Spiderman.
And this news [http://movies.yahoo.com/news/spidey-relaunches-tuesday-record-35m-153508646.html] doesn't help either if we want the Spiderman movie rights be return to Disney/Marvel.
I've noticed that too!scotth266 said:
I'm somewhere in the between great and mediocre. I found this movie to be superior to the previous Spider-Man movies, and pretty good on its own. A lot of what Bob said appeared to be incorrect to me as well. However, that's just my opinion against his... I suppose. Not gonna get into the details.
If you wanted to see it, don't let Bob's review stop you.
Not even close to the minority. Don't take the chirps of idiot yes men all saying that because Bob said it was bad that they're not going to see it as "the majority." Everyone who saw this movie and then posted on here about it said they liked it and that Bob is talking about his ass, and everyone saying they agree with Bob also mentioned that they have not, and will not, see it. Their loss though, cuz this movie kicked ass.bat32391 said:
NAILED IT!!!
FUCK MOTHERING NAILED IT!!
Movie bob, i was in doubt when i saw you liked ted and tim and eric, i was in doubt when you some what warm to Avatar and the last airbender, two of the worst fuck films ever made, but my god, you nailed it this time!
if i could see you in person i would shake your and maby kiss you, but im not that type of guy so count your blessings.
fuck you sony for ruining a possibility with the avengers, and im keeping a close fuck eye on you fox and your x-men series, because it needs to stay good like first class or id be pissed that Scarlette johanson and ryan rynolds (ex husband and wife) couldnt have the most unintentionally hilarious scene on film as black widow and deadpool.....you watch your ass buddies.
*note, its actually looking like deadpool will be awesome since it has a good director, might be rated R and will be written by the writters of zombieland.
no shitting.
FUCK MOTHERING NAILED IT!!
Movie bob, i was in doubt when i saw you liked ted and tim and eric, i was in doubt when you some what warm to Avatar and the last airbender, two of the worst fuck films ever made, but my god, you nailed it this time!
if i could see you in person i would shake your and maby kiss you, but im not that type of guy so count your blessings.
fuck you sony for ruining a possibility with the avengers, and im keeping a close fuck eye on you fox and your x-men series, because it needs to stay good like first class or id be pissed that Scarlette johanson and ryan rynolds (ex husband and wife) couldnt have the most unintentionally hilarious scene on film as black widow and deadpool.....you watch your ass buddies.
*note, its actually looking like deadpool will be awesome since it has a good director, might be rated R and will be written by the writters of zombieland.
no shitting.
To be fair...all joking aside...
I saw the movie last night and it's not THAT bad of a movie, certainly not as bad as Bob made it out to be, but I still didn't like it...
I did like that they made Gwen Stacey Peter's girlfriend, instead of shoehorning her in to create some REALLY LAME love triangle...and they will get +100 bonus points if they follow through with the storyline and make her get killed by the Green Goblin...
Martin Sheen and Dennis Leary are always awesome and still are here...and I adore Emma Stone...
Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker is a WAY better casting than Toby was...but I do agree with Bob that it seemed like they didn't know what they wanted him to be. I will say that I liked that they actually made him very smart...because Peter Parker is...and it was very nice to hear Spidey actually make smartass remarks, something the older spidey movies did very little of/not at all...
Still, overall I just didn't care for this movie at all...probably because i'm a huge Spider-man nerd...
After reading through this thread, I can understand people being upset with some of the things people are saying in this thread...and a lot of people are probably just jumping on the bandwagon...and they really should see it for themselves. I can't get upset about this movie making tons of money because it would have done that anyways, unless it was universally panned by critics...and people STILL would go see it...
It all comes down to difference of opinion. If you liked the movie, more power to you. If you are like me and didn't like it, that's fine too. A lot of people and critics seem to love Prometheus, while I thought it was the stupidest movie i've ever seen AND the pinnacle of character/story stupidity...
See the movie for yourself...and make the decision on your own...
...i'm still sad that we won't get Spider-man in the glorious Marvel Movie-verse...
I saw the movie last night and it's not THAT bad of a movie, certainly not as bad as Bob made it out to be, but I still didn't like it...
I did like that they made Gwen Stacey Peter's girlfriend, instead of shoehorning her in to create some REALLY LAME love triangle...and they will get +100 bonus points if they follow through with the storyline and make her get killed by the Green Goblin...
Martin Sheen and Dennis Leary are always awesome and still are here...and I adore Emma Stone...
Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker is a WAY better casting than Toby was...but I do agree with Bob that it seemed like they didn't know what they wanted him to be. I will say that I liked that they actually made him very smart...because Peter Parker is...and it was very nice to hear Spidey actually make smartass remarks, something the older spidey movies did very little of/not at all...
Still, overall I just didn't care for this movie at all...probably because i'm a huge Spider-man nerd...
After reading through this thread, I can understand people being upset with some of the things people are saying in this thread...and a lot of people are probably just jumping on the bandwagon...and they really should see it for themselves. I can't get upset about this movie making tons of money because it would have done that anyways, unless it was universally panned by critics...and people STILL would go see it...
It all comes down to difference of opinion. If you liked the movie, more power to you. If you are like me and didn't like it, that's fine too. A lot of people and critics seem to love Prometheus, while I thought it was the stupidest movie i've ever seen AND the pinnacle of character/story stupidity...
See the movie for yourself...and make the decision on your own...
...i'm still sad that we won't get Spider-man in the glorious Marvel Movie-verse...
I didn't like the movie but I didn't hate it either, it's just that they changed his whole origin story and remove the core of the Spiderman mythos.MrBrightside919 said:
I'm with Bob with this that the Marvel movies must be made by Marvel Studios because they are the only few who somehow understand the right direction on how their properties should be put on film.
You're right. I'm pretty sure two years from now no one is gonna remember something special with this movie other than The unnecessary Spiderman reboot.MrBrightside919 said:
When you think about it, isn't that the fate Clash of the Titans(2010) suffered if you go back and asked the people who watched it after a year?
The problem with when Bob does this sort of stuff, he goes into into it with a self-fulfilling prophecy. If he says it's going to suck before he sees it, he will be on the lookout for suck and simply miss all the good. Which is why I tend to avoid his opinion on movies that he has, time and time again, bashed before release.Sis said:
Otherwise, when he does stuff more neutrally, a lot of his reviews have either spurned me off of terrible movies or gotten me interested in stuff I hadn't even heard about.