Escape to the Movies: The Expendables

[Outcast107]

Nah, the Relic vs. Bioware thread ran for thousands of pages. We're nowhere near breaking the system.

That was a awesome battle. That ran like for 2000 pages didn't it? or somewhere larger...cause I remember we were trying to get it over 9000. Anyways! I stop watching movie bob "reviews" I normally don't like to listen to critics. I like to listen to friends/family but even then I just go to a movie to enjoy it. But I guess I'm a sheep and a moron for not listening to a guy who on the internet. Silly me lol.

 

[Starke]

Nah, the Relic vs. Bioware thread ran for thousands of pages. We're nowhere near breaking the system.

That was a awesome battle. That ran like for 2000 pages didn't it? or somewhere larger...cause I remember we were trying to get it over 9000. Anyways! I stop watching movie bob "reviews" I normally don't like to listen to critics. I like to listen to friends/family but even then I just go to a movie to enjoy it. But I guess I'm a sheep and a moron for not listening to a guy who on the internet. Silly me lol.

I honestly don't remember. I'm a pretty dyed in the wool fan of Relic (if I had to pick between the two), so throwing gas on the flames didn't seem like a good idea to me. But, yeah, I kinda doubt I'm going to continue watching Bob's reviews at all after this.

 

[Stabby Joe]

Wow, nearly 1000 posts, seriously I can't remember when I first replied now... people have really got their knickers in a twist. I didn't think people cared that much in like or dislike for a by the numbers action flick.

EDIT: And now that we're 6 posts away, I can now see someone posting just for the hell of it to get some sort of cheap win out of it like those people who always post "first".

 

[pauloalbatross]

Does the 1000th poster win a virtual car/ "massive yacht"?

 

[zenoaugustus]

And if you can only do one type of role- particularly when it's basically your real personality, you're not an Actor: you're just being you around some props.

Kind of sounds like the main character of Scott Pilgrim....

 

[ninjajoeman]

this is like that game where if you put your hands out then the other can go on top of it... well they get the 1000th post

 

[Axolotl]

I honestly am surprised the ammount of hate the Expendables got from many serious critics. Given what it was it actually had far less action than I'd thought it would have. And the dialogue isn't that bad, most of it was forgettable but some of Mickey Rourke's were really good. As in they were probably better commentary on soldiers in warzones than the whole of the Hurt Locker was.

 

[Syllvenwood]

wow after seeing this i was kinda confused cause it almost described SP vs TW what a dumb brainless movie, i think i am actually dumber after seeing it. So if this moron think it was so awesome and this movie sucks it must mean it worth checking out as a matinee tomorrow i am there

 

[SamStar42]

Let me make my first stance a bit clearer.

I am not stating flat out the review is wrong. I am not stating that I believe his opinion is worthless. Whatever he thinks about a film is fine, everyone will have their own. He enjoyed Daybreakers, I didn't that much. He thought Hot Tub was hillarious, I laughed maybe twice. He thought Sherlock Holmes was mediocre, I bloody loved it. And for the record I agree with Bob more often than I don't.

But this wasn't a review, it was just flat-out insulting people and being generally incorrect. 'Virtually bloodless and no memorable kills?' I don't think you watched the movie I did, good sir. But, as I said, he's free to his opinion...even if it is a little factually inaccurate.

But when he's using his position of reviewer to just insult, offend and flat-out disregard anyone who has an opinion other than his is just fucking ridiculous. To go back to the old argument - Yahtzee is EXPECTED to do this. He does it because we've come to realise it's what he does best. Bob is (seemingly) a professional and wants to be viewed as this, and his reviews, by and large, haven't been comedic. So that argument is pointless.

Claiming that everyone who saw the movie you didn't like is a 'sheep' is just ridiculous, Bob. I'm not sure if this is just your position and medium getting to your head but you've been like this for a while. You did the same thing with the Lost finale, stating that anyone who liked it 'was in denial'. You've been doing it with Transformers since the start, but it never really become insulting.

Bottom line: Stating that anyone who likes a film you don't - an action all guns blazing film, no less, which was what A-Team and G.I. Joe were and you liked those - is a 'brainless sheep', only attracted to the brain-dead because a film you enjoyed wasn't succesful (which was not and wasn't expected to be a surprise) is just out of order, Bob.

You can critique. You can rage at things. But at the risk of sounding more important and authorative than I actually am, stop insulting people and being egotistical. Because you're going to lose more traffic if you keep on like this.

 

[Syllvenwood]

Bob hating a movie basically means its pretty good. This guys taste in movies pretyt much sums up the i smoked pot all my life generation

 

[rossable]

Moviebob, your not going to read this, you and I both know this. I feel compelled to tell you this because of the responses your review has created. You of all people should know that reviews are subjective. In your "Knight and Day" review you described why critics loved to see new things, b/c your sick and tired of seeing the same thing over and over again. That's great, perfectly understandable. However several problems in your past reviews show a strong sense of misunderstanding.

In your Book of Eli review you focused on how "trite" the premise was because it carried what you think strong Christian overtones are. The entire review was spent belittling the Christian faith by your use of Veggie Tales and Left Behind imagery, with "preachy" being constantly brought up. It was no longer a movie review, but a rant against a religion. You followed up in your Legion review how you mentioned the flack you received from your Eli review, comparing it to a mob or cry babies. Bob, you attacked the Christian faith and insulted the intelligence of Christians. You assumed that Christians would love Legion because it has angels in it (even though the film was an insult to the Christian faith) and you used the image stills of Bill & Ted adding your mocking impression of them implying how stupid Christians are. However, you only focused on the film's main theme of militant atheism in your Clash of the Titans review for a brief moment and began to review the movie without ever going back to the atheistic theme again.

All opinion's are subjective, but your reasons for liking/disliking movies are becoming a teeter totter of professionalism and hypocrisy. The same can be said for your Revenge of the Fallen and Expendables review. It's one thing to have anger towards a director for turning a promising sci-fi franchise into a bad action film, but to condemn people for seeing a film rather than one you like very much is ridiculous. You could have focused on the aspects of the film like your brief mention of the shaky cam, but you focus on a melodramatic speech about the future of cinema and humanity. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly wasn't received well when it first came out, but now its considered the greatest "spaghetti western" of all time. Roger Ebert didn't like the A-Team movie, but like you said "the A-Team knows exactly what it wants to be" i.e. a fun action movie and how it's okay for a movie like this to come out once in awhile. Your opinion is your opinion and you should stress that b/c when the more scary fans see these types of reviews it leads to arrogant douchebags trolling other websites attacking other critics, who liked the movie.

Flawless Victory! Finish Him!

 

[Apples_McGrind]

I'm so sick and tired of all this hatred on each other and against movie bob just because he hated a movie. So what? I liked movies that he's hated and I've hated movies he's liked. It's to each his own. I don't watch his show because I want him to re-assure my opinion. I watch his show because whether I agree with him or not his comments are usually insightful (when given the proper movie to analyze). Can we just stop with all this insecurity because one critic bashed your movie. I have a feeling it wouldn't matter so much to people if the Expendables wasn't also getting generally bad reviews from a lot of other critics.

Seriously, see both and decide what you like. You may like the Expendables and hate Scott Pilgrim and because of this you might get a lot of flak from a bunch of movie buffs telling you you're stupid. But why should you care? I love movies with the same passion as Moviebob so I'm not afraid to admit that I enjoyed "Legion" and "Repo Men" while I also didn't like "Invictus" and "Crazy Heart". It's an opinion guys. Don't star raising pitchforks over it.

it's people like you that give me hope of the internet although I did think it was unnecessary for him to insult who saw and liked the movie

Yeah I do agree. It was a little out of line even for him. I think it was mostly just him venting over Scott Pilgrim's lack of box office so he could get on with the actual review of the movie. Sometimes when things piss me off, I need to get it out of my system first too. That's why I couldn't see the Expendables until after I calmed down about Scott Pilgrim's box office last week. But once I was feeling better then I saw the movie. I still didn't like it, but at least I had more of an open mind towards it before going in.

Edit: Also thank you for the Citizen Kane clap. One of my favorite movies.

 

[SpaceSpork]

Some movies are just meant to be enjoyable to sit through . . . And please, stop stating that everyone who likes a movie you don't is worthless. Transformers, Book of Eli, and now Expendables - some people just like to sit through a movie that's brainless. Whilst they're not that good, stating that everyone who likes them is pretty much wrong is just arrogant and pretentious.

Yeah, MovieBob! Quit saying that just because a movie is bad, that means it's bad!

OH WAIT.

Seriously, if you consider a movie a guilty pleasure, call it a guilty pleasure.

 

[Shadowkire]

snip about how everyone who likes this movie and defends it are assholes

Im sorry that the expendables wasnt an epiphany sparking movie for you, thats what I would say if you werent a colosal tosser trying to find something complex in a movie that has plot as an afterthought maybe you should go read a book or watch a complicated movie like inception instead of spewing hate at a movie that is just a mind vacation. The expendables isnt Asimov its fucking Sylvester Stallone a porn actor turned action movie star so you can go to hell if you expect something complicated from a movie he directed, wrote and starred in.

Like a Drunk at a Bar Mitzvah, you have stumbled through the point of my post completely oblivious.

I was insulting people(which apparently includes you) that go to these movies for a "brain vacation", when you could accomplish that by sitting in front of the TV or just sitting or any of about a thousand things that let you "zone out"

I wasn't looking for anything complex in the Expendables because I knew it wasn't going to have anything worth watching in it, in fact that is why I didn't watch the movie. But apparently I am spot on with my expectations of what the film holds because you didn't refute anything I said about the movie.

I find odd how viscerally you defend a film that you yourself apparently didn't like, unless you like not using your brain, which from your comments is definitely a possibility.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

Heck, even a straightforward, fun action movie can be well-written and have good characters. It's kinda sad how the first of Bob's threads to hit the 1000 mark is about a film that deserves NO attention whatsoever, especially one made by an over the hill action star who was rendered obsolete as such more than a decade ago. Maybe I could defend Stallone if it weren't for his insecure comments about how comic book movies like Batman changed action movies.

 

[Withard]

Moviebob, your not going to read this, you and I both know this. I feel compelled to tell you this because of the responses your review has created. You of all people should know that reviews are subjective. In your "Knight and Day" review you described why critics loved to see new things, b/c your sick and tired of seeing the same thing over and over again. That's great, perfectly understandable. However several problems in your past reviews show a strong sense of misunderstanding.

In your Book of Eli review you focused on how "trite" the premise was because it carried what you think strong Christian overtones are. The entire review was spent belittling the Christian faith by your use of Veggie Tales and Left Behind imagery, with "preachy" being constantly brought up. It was no longer a movie review, but a rant against a religion. You followed up in your Legion review how you mentioned the flack you received from your Eli review, comparing it to a mob or cry babies. Bob, you attacked the Christian faith and insulted the intelligence of Christians. You assumed that Christians would love Legion because it has angels in it (even though the film was an insult to the Christian faith) and you used the image stills of Bill & Ted adding your mocking impression of them implying how stupid Christians are. However, you only focused on the film's main theme of militant atheism in your Clash of the Titans review for a brief moment and began to review the movie without ever going back to the atheistic theme again.

All opinion's are subjective, but your reasons for liking/disliking movies are becoming a teeter totter of professionalism and hypocrisy. The same can be said for your Revenge of the Fallen and Expendables review. It's one thing to have anger towards a director for turning a promising sci-fi franchise into a bad action film, but to condemn people for seeing a film rather than one you like very much is ridiculous. You could have focused on the aspects of the film like your brief mention of the shaky cam, but you focus on a melodramatic speech about the future of cinema and humanity. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly wasn't received well when it first came out, but now its considered the greatest "spaghetti western" of all time. Roger Ebert didn't like the A-Team movie, but like you said "the A-Team knows exactly what it wants to be" i.e. a fun action movie and how it's okay for a movie like this to come out once in awhile. Your opinion is your opinion and you should stress that b/c when the more scary fans see these types of reviews it leads to arrogant douchebags trolling other websites attacking other critics, who liked the movie.

ULTIMATE COMBO!!!

 

[kikon9]

So.. let me get this straight. The movie is bad... because a lot of people enjoyed it? Ok I guess that makes sense.

 

[theSovietConnection]

So.. let me get this straight. The movie is bad... because a lot of people enjoyed it? Ok I guess that makes sense.

Bob's just bitter because Scott Pilgrim got completely trashed by this at the box office. Which was never really a surprise to me, between Micheal Cera and the trailers for it, Scott Pilgrim never really got my attention. Maybe I'll go see it, but I'm not entirely certain I will after MovieBob's little tantrum.

 

[Kurokami]

Or is it only not okay when filmmakers do that with the male form, Bob? Is it because those two large, glistening, heavy wrecking balls on Devastator make you uncomfortable?

You think of those Action stars as good looking?

 

[Nomanslander]

OMG, is this thread still going strong?

Come on, it was about time someone said something about shitty action movies since they've been making them none stop since they forgot how to make good ones back in the late 80s.

I could tell The Expendables was going to be crap just by reading about it, two years ago!

Oh and Scott P vs World sucked too.

>=[