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2012 Wont Happen

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NoblePhilistineFox said:
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NoblePhilistineFox said:
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I believe it is a difficult thing to find somebody on the Escapist who does not fit the molds of:

Socialist/other Leftist
Fascist/other Authoritarian
Libertarian
hmmm, me?
personally, I think free will is overated and that we humans are merely foolish children, desperately searching for a light switch that doesnt exist in a dark room with many stairs.
and you are going to keep me out of this perfect world simply because my views are that of a philistine?
I will ask you again,
CONCEDE!!!
I have one final trump card if this doesnt work, do you really want me to play it?

PS:again, I am sorry for patronizing, I just want to argue with you.
Its a quest to defeat you, and I am on it.

From your description, you seem rather authoritarian. You should do well on the island with the other authoritarians.
how can you put them on your island?
we would conquer as quickly as possible, then create war against each other to gain control and become dictator.
also, I found another card, on your profile it sais you yourself are a socialist...
lay your hand, ante up
[HEADING=1]CONCEDE!![/HEADING]
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

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Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
Ok quick question that doesn't seem to even be answered. I fit in none of the categorizes. I like my democracy threw and threw. So where would I fit or would I even be welcome. I'm not a big fan of a socialized government.
Both Libertarianism and Socialism are democratic forms of government, but considering that your main complaint is that you don't like socialized government, that rules out the latter. You would go to the undersea Libertarian paradise.
 

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Berethond said:
We can take over Samoa. No one will ever notice!

BETTER IDEA!

We build it under the sea. We'll use cool fifties styling and architecture! We'll do cool research forbidden on the surface! After all, is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
Damn straight. Now I'm off to create an addictive substance that is collected by small girls and protected by behemoths in diving suits!

What could possibly go wrong!
 

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I wish to join this new nation. I will accept nothing less than absolute ruler, or if someone already has taken absolute ruler, than I will accept nothing less than the second in command, so I can plot and scheme against him.
 

NoblePhilistineFox

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2012 Wont Happen said:
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

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Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
so you are preparing for war?
you expect this "perfect island" to backfire and be plunged into chaos then?
and that last statement gives me the impression that you are going to make seperate floating islands for every P.O.V., does that not fall under descrimination and "concentration" of certain groups?
is not the point of this place to be somewhere where there is no war, no descrimination, no hate, and a place where all are welcome?
this world is bound to crumble unto itself, why not burn it and dance upon the flames?


you can continue trying to win, or you can concede and work on this idea more.
when you have worked out the kinks in this plan, THAT is what I want to argue against.
create a flawless idea, only then can you beat me.
otherwise, I will always be one step ahead of you
two misanthropic minds will crush hope if not properly compared, concede for now.
or throw your best at me, I am fine with either
 

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I wish to join this new nation. I will accept nothing less than absolute ruler, or if someone already has taken absolute ruler, than I will accept nothing less than the second in command, so I can plot and scheme against him.
and here is more proof of why I am right,
do you concede?
 

2012 Wont Happen

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NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

edit-

Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
so you are preparing for war?
you expect this "perfect island" to backfire and be plunged into chaos then?
and that last statement gives me the impression that you are going to make seperate floating islands for every P.O.V., does that not fall under descrimination and "concentration" of certain groups?
is not the point of this place to be somewhere where there is no war, no descrimination, no hate, and a place where all are welcome?
this world is bound to crumble unto itself, why not burn it and dance upon the flames?


you can continue trying to win, or you can concede and work on this idea more.
when you have worked out the kinks in this plan, THAT is what I want to argue against.
create a flawless idea, only then can you beat me.
otherwise, I will always be one step ahead of you
two misanthropic minds will crush hope if not properly compared, concede for now.
or throw your best at me, I am fine with either
Well, the Socialists would get the floating island, the fascists the main island and the Libertarians the undersea city. While free passage would be between all, this split government makes stability easiest.

I simply stated the war preparations as you said that the authoritarians would be fighting for control. I don't think that would happen, but if it did- the Socialist city where the whale nukes are stored would do quite well.
 

Lizmichi

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2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
I believe it is a difficult thing to find somebody on the Escapist who does not fit the molds of:

Socialist/other Leftist
Fascist/other Authoritarian
Libertarian
hmmm, me?
personally, I think free will is overated and that we humans are merely foolish children, desperately searching for a light switch that doesnt exist in a dark room with many stairs.
and you are going to keep me out of this perfect world simply because my views are that of a philistine?
I will ask you again,
CONCEDE!!!
I have one final trump card if this doesnt work, do you really want me to play it?

PS:again, I am sorry for patronizing, I just want to argue with you.
Its a quest to defeat you, and I am on it.

From your description, you seem rather authoritarian. You should do well on the island with the other authoritarians.
how can you put them on your island?
we would conquer as quickly as possible, then create war against each other to gain control and become dictator.
also, I found another card, on your profile it sais you yourself are a socialist...
lay your hand, ante up
[HEADING=1]CONCEDE!![/HEADING]
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

edit-

Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
Ok quick question that doesn't seem to even be answered. I fit in none of the categorizes. I like my democracy threw and threw. So where would I fit or would I even be welcome. I'm not a big fan of a socialized government.
Both Libertarianism and Socialism are democratic forms of government, but considering that your main complaint is that you don't like socialized government, that rules out the latter. You would go to the undersea Libertarian paradise.
Hell I'm happy as long as ADAM stays far far away from this utopia. Though as a thought to keep all of the parts of the country together and united there should be a rep from each part, an ambassador if you will, to help make laws that are good for all parts and each part have their own separate government. Much like the state and Federal government is set up in the US. To keep and check and balance system so one doesn't over power the other. Just an idea.
 

2012 Wont Happen

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NoblePhilistineFox said:
RatRace123 said:
I wish to join this new nation. I will accept nothing less than absolute ruler, or if someone already has taken absolute ruler, than I will accept nothing less than the second in command, so I can plot and scheme against him.
and here is more proof of why I am right,
do you concede?
He will fit in well with the authoritarians. He is welcome on the island!
 

2012 Wont Happen

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Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
I believe it is a difficult thing to find somebody on the Escapist who does not fit the molds of:

Socialist/other Leftist
Fascist/other Authoritarian
Libertarian
hmmm, me?
personally, I think free will is overated and that we humans are merely foolish children, desperately searching for a light switch that doesnt exist in a dark room with many stairs.
and you are going to keep me out of this perfect world simply because my views are that of a philistine?
I will ask you again,
CONCEDE!!!
I have one final trump card if this doesnt work, do you really want me to play it?

PS:again, I am sorry for patronizing, I just want to argue with you.
Its a quest to defeat you, and I am on it.

From your description, you seem rather authoritarian. You should do well on the island with the other authoritarians.
how can you put them on your island?
we would conquer as quickly as possible, then create war against each other to gain control and become dictator.
also, I found another card, on your profile it sais you yourself are a socialist...
lay your hand, ante up
[HEADING=1]CONCEDE!![/HEADING]
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

edit-

Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
Ok quick question that doesn't seem to even be answered. I fit in none of the categorizes. I like my democracy threw and threw. So where would I fit or would I even be welcome. I'm not a big fan of a socialized government.
Both Libertarianism and Socialism are democratic forms of government, but considering that your main complaint is that you don't like socialized government, that rules out the latter. You would go to the undersea Libertarian paradise.
Hell I'm happy as long as ADAM stays far far away from this utopia. Though as a thought to keep all of the parts of the country together and united there should be a rep from each part, an ambassador if you will, to help make laws that are good for all parts and each part have their own separate government. Much like the state and Federal government is set up in the US. To keep and check and balance system so one doesn't over power the other. Just an idea.
Each society will have a delegation of mods to keep everything running smoothly and in what unison can possibly be between Fascists, Socialists and Libertarians. That is sort of similar. Also, as stated in group, we have declared Jack Thompson and Michael Atkinson enemies of the state, and demanding their extradition to our nation for trial will be an early unifying goal to keep us together through founding.
 

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It just so happens I have a nice plot of land protected from by a ray screen. We have a super advanced power system, a pirate to defend our land if it is ever discovered, and large sources of steel, oil, and just about everything else. As much as I love the idea of an undersea paradise, why not use the one that is already here?

Also, we have a lot of gold for currency.
 

NoblePhilistineFox

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2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
RatRace123 said:
I wish to join this new nation. I will accept nothing less than absolute ruler, or if someone already has taken absolute ruler, than I will accept nothing less than the second in command, so I can plot and scheme against him.
and here is more proof of why I am right,
do you concede?
He will fit in well with the authoritarians. He is welcome on the island!
I dont want him on my island, I will send him to yours.
 

2012 Wont Happen

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Who is John Galt said:
It just so happens I have a nice plot of land protected from by a ray screen. We have a super advanced power system, a pirate to defend our land if it is ever discovered, and large sources of steel, oil, and just about everything else. As much as I love the idea of an undersea paradise, why not use the one that is already here?

Also, we have a lot of gold for currency.
hmm...

We have quite a good idea for the setup of our main area, but this could make for a great mining colony to bring great success to our nation.
 

Lizmichi

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2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
I believe it is a difficult thing to find somebody on the Escapist who does not fit the molds of:

Socialist/other Leftist
Fascist/other Authoritarian
Libertarian
hmmm, me?
personally, I think free will is overated and that we humans are merely foolish children, desperately searching for a light switch that doesnt exist in a dark room with many stairs.
and you are going to keep me out of this perfect world simply because my views are that of a philistine?
I will ask you again,
CONCEDE!!!
I have one final trump card if this doesnt work, do you really want me to play it?

PS:again, I am sorry for patronizing, I just want to argue with you.
Its a quest to defeat you, and I am on it.

From your description, you seem rather authoritarian. You should do well on the island with the other authoritarians.
how can you put them on your island?
we would conquer as quickly as possible, then create war against each other to gain control and become dictator.
also, I found another card, on your profile it sais you yourself are a socialist...
lay your hand, ante up
[HEADING=1]CONCEDE!![/HEADING]
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

edit-

Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
Ok quick question that doesn't seem to even be answered. I fit in none of the categorizes. I like my democracy threw and threw. So where would I fit or would I even be welcome. I'm not a big fan of a socialized government.
Both Libertarianism and Socialism are democratic forms of government, but considering that your main complaint is that you don't like socialized government, that rules out the latter. You would go to the undersea Libertarian paradise.
Hell I'm happy as long as ADAM stays far far away from this utopia. Though as a thought to keep all of the parts of the country together and united there should be a rep from each part, an ambassador if you will, to help make laws that are good for all parts and each part have their own separate government. Much like the state and Federal government is set up in the US. To keep and check and balance system so one doesn't over power the other. Just an idea.
Each society will have a delegation of mods to keep everything running smoothly and in what unison can possibly be between Fascists, Socialists and Libertarians. That is sort of similar. Also, as stated in group, we have declared Jack Thompson and Michael Atkinson enemies of the state, and demanding their extradition to our nation for trial will be an early unifying goal to keep us together through founding.
Agreed. Well oh commander I shall do what ever you need me to do. *salutes*
 

2012 Wont Happen

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NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
RatRace123 said:
I wish to join this new nation. I will accept nothing less than absolute ruler, or if someone already has taken absolute ruler, than I will accept nothing less than the second in command, so I can plot and scheme against him.
and here is more proof of why I am right,
do you concede?
He will fit in well with the authoritarians. He is welcome on the island!
I dont want him on my island, I will send him to yours.
Even if you were the leader of the authoritarians, the mods most likely would step in on such a call. If they did not, I suppose that he would simply be forced to accept equality.

I now concede that nothing is perfect so that we can move on to more productive conversation about establishing a nearly perfect Escapist nation.
 

NoblePhilistineFox

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2012 Wont Happen said:
Well, the Socialists would get the floating island, the fascists the main island and the Libertarians the undersea city. While free passage would be between all, this split government makes stability easiest.

I simply stated the war preparations as you said that the authoritarians would be fighting for control. I don't think that would happen, but if it did- the Socialist city where the whale nukes are stored would do quite well.
that is only three cities, what about the rest of us?
Discrimination I say

and you are seperating?
what about a single perfect utopia, would that not make more sense?

and I shall lay my hand here,
seperating everyone on the escapist to make a world without discrimination is discriminating everyone who is not on the escapist.
DONE!
do I win?
 

2012 Wont Happen

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Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
I believe it is a difficult thing to find somebody on the Escapist who does not fit the molds of:

Socialist/other Leftist
Fascist/other Authoritarian
Libertarian
hmmm, me?
personally, I think free will is overated and that we humans are merely foolish children, desperately searching for a light switch that doesnt exist in a dark room with many stairs.
and you are going to keep me out of this perfect world simply because my views are that of a philistine?
I will ask you again,
CONCEDE!!!
I have one final trump card if this doesnt work, do you really want me to play it?

PS:again, I am sorry for patronizing, I just want to argue with you.
Its a quest to defeat you, and I am on it.

From your description, you seem rather authoritarian. You should do well on the island with the other authoritarians.
how can you put them on your island?
we would conquer as quickly as possible, then create war against each other to gain control and become dictator.
also, I found another card, on your profile it sais you yourself are a socialist...
lay your hand, ante up
[HEADING=1]CONCEDE!![/HEADING]
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

edit-

Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
Ok quick question that doesn't seem to even be answered. I fit in none of the categorizes. I like my democracy threw and threw. So where would I fit or would I even be welcome. I'm not a big fan of a socialized government.
Both Libertarianism and Socialism are democratic forms of government, but considering that your main complaint is that you don't like socialized government, that rules out the latter. You would go to the undersea Libertarian paradise.
Hell I'm happy as long as ADAM stays far far away from this utopia. Though as a thought to keep all of the parts of the country together and united there should be a rep from each part, an ambassador if you will, to help make laws that are good for all parts and each part have their own separate government. Much like the state and Federal government is set up in the US. To keep and check and balance system so one doesn't over power the other. Just an idea.
Each society will have a delegation of mods to keep everything running smoothly and in what unison can possibly be between Fascists, Socialists and Libertarians. That is sort of similar. Also, as stated in group, we have declared Jack Thompson and Michael Atkinson enemies of the state, and demanding their extradition to our nation for trial will be an early unifying goal to keep us together through founding.
Agreed. Well oh commander I shall do what ever you need me to do. *salutes*
The only person who should be considered absolute commander is Kuliani. While I may be elected by the Socialists in the floating city to represent them (and may be made a general in NeonBob's whale nuking army) I am no full commander.
 

2012 Wont Happen

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NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Well, the Socialists would get the floating island, the fascists the main island and the Libertarians the undersea city. While free passage would be between all, this split government makes stability easiest.

I simply stated the war preparations as you said that the authoritarians would be fighting for control. I don't think that would happen, but if it did- the Socialist city where the whale nukes are stored would do quite well.
that is only three cities, what about the rest of us?
Discrimination I say

and you are seperating?
what about a single perfect utopia, would that not make more sense?

and I shall lay my hand here,
seperating everyone on the escapist to make a world without discrimination is discriminating everyone who is not on the escapist.
DONE!
do I win?
They are separated because there are various ideas on utopianism, and we are allowing each one to have its own go at it. We are separating ourselves from the rest of the world, but if they feel they would prefer our new nation, they could come along as well. Escapist membership is free of charge.
 

Lizmichi

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2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
I believe it is a difficult thing to find somebody on the Escapist who does not fit the molds of:

Socialist/other Leftist
Fascist/other Authoritarian
Libertarian
hmmm, me?
personally, I think free will is overated and that we humans are merely foolish children, desperately searching for a light switch that doesnt exist in a dark room with many stairs.
and you are going to keep me out of this perfect world simply because my views are that of a philistine?
I will ask you again,
CONCEDE!!!
I have one final trump card if this doesnt work, do you really want me to play it?

PS:again, I am sorry for patronizing, I just want to argue with you.
Its a quest to defeat you, and I am on it.

From your description, you seem rather authoritarian. You should do well on the island with the other authoritarians.
how can you put them on your island?
we would conquer as quickly as possible, then create war against each other to gain control and become dictator.
also, I found another card, on your profile it sais you yourself are a socialist...
lay your hand, ante up
[HEADING=1]CONCEDE!![/HEADING]
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

edit-

Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
Ok quick question that doesn't seem to even be answered. I fit in none of the categorizes. I like my democracy threw and threw. So where would I fit or would I even be welcome. I'm not a big fan of a socialized government.
Both Libertarianism and Socialism are democratic forms of government, but considering that your main complaint is that you don't like socialized government, that rules out the latter. You would go to the undersea Libertarian paradise.
Hell I'm happy as long as ADAM stays far far away from this utopia. Though as a thought to keep all of the parts of the country together and united there should be a rep from each part, an ambassador if you will, to help make laws that are good for all parts and each part have their own separate government. Much like the state and Federal government is set up in the US. To keep and check and balance system so one doesn't over power the other. Just an idea.
Each society will have a delegation of mods to keep everything running smoothly and in what unison can possibly be between Fascists, Socialists and Libertarians. That is sort of similar. Also, as stated in group, we have declared Jack Thompson and Michael Atkinson enemies of the state, and demanding their extradition to our nation for trial will be an early unifying goal to keep us together through founding.
Agreed. Well oh commander I shall do what ever you need me to do. *salutes*
The only person who should be considered absolute commander is Kuliani. While I may be elected by the Socialists in the floating city to represent them (and may be made a general in NeonBob's whale nuking army) I am no full commander.
Ok fine fearless leader. But as I said, my brain power is at your full disposal. Aww going after the whale scum I see.
 

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Can't we just build something like Outer Haven and live happily? This is sounding more and more like Outer Heaven or Zanzibar Land, but for us Escapists. Neither of those ended well.

... then again, neither did Outer Haven. Let's scrap those plans. Can I just build Arsenal Gear for defense?