ESRB Dishes on Dragon Age 2 Sex

Ensiferum

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I'm not really sure why this is news; isn't it pretty much a given that Bioware includes this in their games now? Or is this just a "marketing ploy" to generate controversy so that more people will be curious about the game and buy it?
 

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ItsAPaul said:
And its not getting bought because its $60 on PC. Hopefully horrible sales will make EA change its mind on the pricing.
eh, speak for yourself. While I don't like EA, and I hate buying new games, I'm going to buy Dragon Age 2 because the first one was good and I love BioWare. I usually only ever bother with big games like that if i love the company (Bethesda, BioWare, Valve, etc.)
 

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ZeroMachine said:
The Stonker said:
ZeroMachine said:
Jesus Phish said:
Bioware tells stories.

Stories can and do at times have sex in them, because people in the real world have sex and it's something they can relate to.

It's the same as a book or a movie depicting sex in it's story. It's usually used to add to the world or the story.
Movies show real people.

Books use imagination.

Sex in the uncanny valley, though, is just strange. That's the only reason I don't enjoy sex scenes in games.
What if it serves a purpose in the story?
Never said it didn't, and never said they shouldn't exist. My basic point is "that's why I'd prefer a fade-to-black".

Baresark said:
ZeroMachine said:
Jesus Phish said:
Bioware tells stories.

Stories can and do at times have sex in them, because people in the real world have sex and it's something they can relate to.

It's the same as a book or a movie depicting sex in it's story. It's usually used to add to the world or the story.
Movies show real people.

Books use imagination.

Sex in the uncanny valley, though, is just strange. That's the only reason I don't enjoy sex scenes in games.
I completely understand that you probably in some form find them distasteful. That is why they are optional to the story. You do not need to seek the ingame relationship if you don't wish to, but to say they are wrong or should not be in there, well that is just crazy.

The thing I like about having them in the game is that they can offer a depth to the story if I so choose to pursue that in the game. I remember in Mass Effect 2 I pursued that girl who is always covered completely in that suit in hopes of seeing what they look like underneath. I didn't, but it added a strange dimension and depth to story that made it feel all the more real.
I've gone after the relationships in Mass Effect 1 and 2 and, I have to say, they feel so forced and awkward that although it added to the overall story in a good way, the events themselves just felt wrong. And I'm not even talking about pixelated side-boob.

I've never liked Bioware's romance writing. I feel like they don't know how to portray that stuff correctly. I can relate to the connection between Monkey and Trip in Enslaved better. Or, hell, even John Marston and Bonnie in RDR, and that never even goes anywhere o_O

Mass Effect 1's sex scene really does feel like shitty porn to me. 2's was better, but only in the fact that it didn't feel like shitty porn, but instead like a stupid Hollywood "romance", which, and let's be honest here, is just bumping uglies.

(For the record, in 1, I've gone for both Ashley and Liara, while in 2 I went for Miranda. And I've never seen the way the romances play out in Dragon Age, that game can barely hold my interest.)
Haha, I didn't mean to make it sound like it did. I was just using your post as a springboard into my own thing. I couldn't agree more, to outright have a sex scene in a game would be tasteless, it's fine by me that they did the fade to black and let the imagination do the rest. Dragon Age sex scenes are exactly like ME2. Kissing, almost nude, fade to black. The only thing that really drove them home as tasteful and appropriate is that the voice acting was completely top notch on DA:O. Not that it was bad on ME2, but there was a visible direction the dialog took as the person you were pursuing liked you more. I went for Morgana, and she was a very different person when it got to the point you could finish the romance with her. The Romance was much better done in DA:O than it was in ME. The music in DA:O also was absolutely perfect. All the elements complimented each other so well, it actually did enhance the story of the game, especially right before that final epic battle. It's a shame you don't like the game, it came to a fantastic conclusion.
 

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Haha, I didn't mean to make it sound like it did. I was just using your post as a springboard into my own thing. I couldn't agree more, to outright have a sex scene in a game would be tasteless, it's fine by me that they did the fade to black and let the imagination do the rest. Dragon Age sex scenes are exactly like ME2. Kissing, almost nude, fade to black. The only thing that really drove them home as tasteful and appropriate is that the voice acting was completely top notch on DA:O. Not that it was bad on ME2, but there was a visible direction the dialog took as the person you were pursuing liked you more. I went for Morgana, and she was a very different person when it got to the point you could finish the romance with her. The Romance was much better done in DA:O than it was in ME. The music in DA:O also was absolutely perfect. All the elements complimented each other so well, it actually did enhance the story of the game, especially right before that final epic battle. It's a shame you don't like the game, it came to a fantastic conclusion.
I wish I did too. It's one of those situations where I feel like I should like it, but the thing is, the game takes way too long to pick up the pace for me. I wish it all felt as epic as the battle of Ostagar did. Unfortunately, it dulled down just a little too much for me.

Maybe if I just play the game in bits...
 

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'Sailing is like sex. Do it wrong, and it'll make you sick.'
Australian #1: "Frankly, I find your American beer to be like making love in a canoe"
Australian #2: "Making love in a canoe?!"
Australian #1: "Yeah, it's fucking close to water!"

I love Monty Python...
 
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meganmeave said:
Geez... well hopefully there won't be an achievement related to fellatio. I can just see that raising a few eyebrows.
And the name is "And boom goes the dynamite".
 

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Hopefully this one has some more freedom when it comes to sleeping around. After a rousing night of bum-tumbling to spite fox news, I might want to nail the hot elf chick for shits and grins.
 

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Bioware is offering digital blowjobs now? $15 DLC could get that selling more Kinect + Fleshlight packages than anything else, I'd wager. Har har har.

Though, apart from the apparently revolutionary idea to include fellatio (and does this option apply to cunnilingus as well, or is this more of a story based thing for a male character?), it's the same old Bioware formula. Give a hint, a little tease, maybe a teensy flash of side-boob/bottom, fade to black, continue your conversation, kill something else. I always loved the hilarity of the blood-splattered heroes wanting to lay with each other in DA:O. It just made me laugh.

Well, that, and Morrigan's whole little "I'm a shy girl who's never been naughty before. [sub]but it was totally awesome so I hope you're coming over to ask me to do it again...[/sub]" routine.

JediMB said:


This is what we're talking about. Not necessarily in that order.
But it's highly disturbing to think about in the order of fellatio followed by decapitation then dismemberment. Rather terrifying, really.
 

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Cousin_IT said:
I for one never tire of imagining how much hair the animators tore out trying (& failing) to make the cutscenes not look like two mannequins trying to dry hump each other.
You hit it on the head there.

Also this:

The Wykydtron said:
Ah Bioware you masterful trolls

I choose you Fox News! Fox News used Controversy... It wasn't very effective

Bioware used Free Publicity... It's super effective!

Fox News fainted
 

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Either they want to or not there will be some sort of sex mod made eventually, so Bioware saves us the trouble and add the sex themselves, which is more than I can say for Oblivion...

chemicalreaper said:
...blahblahblah... Miranda... blahblahblah... she died during the suicide mission.
You are a disgrace to all Shepards! No captain would EVER allow a loyal crew member to die!
 

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I hated the sex scenes in Mass Effect and Dragon age. The bodies don't move like a real human being. They're stiff and rigid. It was like watching two wooden puppets hump each other.
 

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Why is sex so damaging to the "fragile little minds" of today?s youth... but violence & profanity not?? Just watch any American television show... you can't even breastfeed in public without someone leering or condemning you... what do you think boobs were made for??
 

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I'm all for sex in Dragon Age, got no problem with it. Its realistic... except for one thing. I find it odd that there are no same sex relationships in Mass Effect, when that takes place in the future in a much more gay tolerant society. In the time period of Dragon Age gay guys all got burned.
 

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dunam said:
The Stonker said:
What if it serves a purpose in the story?
And what if I buy penthouse for the articles?

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Also: the other F word. I was thinking about 5 on each hand or made into a fist.
Sorry but wha?
This sounds like ramble, I didn't understand a word.
 

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I hated the sex scenes in Mass Effect and Dragon age. The bodies don't move like a real human being. They're stiff and rigid. It was like watching two wooden puppets hump each other.
You mean like in porn? *snap*
But I think Bioware is doing a good thing here, standing up for the industry.
 

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If sex advances the story then why not include it in games. We've gotten to the point in the industry where we can have well developed characters that players can actually feel like they have built a relationship with them and if having sex with that character can further strengthen that relationship and bring the player further into the experience then it's a good thing.

I understand the uncanny valley comments though and in the interest of suspension of disbelief it's probably a good thing that most sex takes place off screen. Often what you don't see is more significant than what you do anyway.
 

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Why do they put sex in games? Simple. Its because more-options > less-options. If you don't want to have sex, you don't have to. If you do, then you're not going to be stopped.
 

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matrix3509 said:
Jesus Phish said:
Bioware tells stories.

Stories can and do at times have sex in them, because people in the real world have sex and it's something they can relate to.

It's the same as a book or a movie depicting sex in it's story. It's usually used to add to the world or the story.
In books or movies the sex is (generally, not including rom-coms) about love. It also usually has meaning. The only meaning behind sex in videogames is either meta-gaming, achievement hunting, or desperate nerd fantasies.

Also, ever tried to meta-game for sex in real-life? Let me know how that works out.
what's metagaming.