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Best served with a side of tears, my good sir. Could I interest you in any?Pinkamena said:
OT: Now if only Gary could parody everyone who compares everything giant robot with Eva... X3
It isn't as deep as people say perhaps, but when you get people who genuinely think it is about nothing more than giant robots, clearly it has gone over some peoples heads. It's the equivalent of saying The Matrix and Fight Club are about fighting.IndieGinge said:
It seems to be one of those series where the "haters" hate it more because of the annoying fans, than anything to do with the actual thing itself, and like to trash it just to annoy those fans. The whole NGE thing strongly reminds me of Valve fans/haters in fact.
Although in this case, people really need to get how Grey's humour works, it should be kind of obvious by now. I didn't find the joke funny, but it's still pretty obvious that it is a joke.
I agree, and that's another thing a lot of people don't seem to get. When you look at what he has to deal with, and has had to deal with in the past, it really shouldn't be that surprising that he is a little messed up.
Shinji's life blows, but he reacts to that by being an unlikable spineless moron, and not by rising to the occasion like, say, Simon from Gurren Lagann (whose life sucks more, arguably, because he lives underground and has to dig tunnels with a fucking HAND DRILL).
EVA in general had a fucked up nonsensical plot that ultimately ends up going to a Gainax mindfuck ending. Some people thought it was deep, other that it was fucking idiotic. I turned off the series at ep 1 because I fucking hated Shinji. That the series went on to kill the other, more likable characters an end in a stupid wau proved me right for tuning out.
But, each to his own.
EVA in general had a fucked up nonsensical plot that ultimately ends up going to a Gainax mindfuck ending. Some people thought it was deep, other that it was fucking idiotic. I turned off the series at ep 1 because I fucking hated Shinji. That the series went on to kill the other, more likable characters an end in a stupid wau proved me right for tuning out.
But, each to his own.
I've been a huge fan of Evangelion and still say it's one of the most culturally important works in anime, but it is always refreshing to see great comics take the piss out of it. Love all of these.
The pillows though, they'd get made regardless of what the show was about.
Oddly enough, Evangelion is one of the well regarded animes I haven't watched yet. I probably should.
Oddly enough, Evangelion is one of the well regarded animes I haven't watched yet. I probably should.
See, I think this is why I don't get the hate for it. I don't have an instant adverse reaction to "unlikable" characters, which apparently, lots of people do. I like to see them learn and change (or crash and burn), and it's very easy for me to empathize with even characters who do despicable things, if they aren't just pure evil or do shit solely because they're douches.Zero=Interrupt said:
It does weird me out that so many nerds who, as a general rule tend to like deconstructions, turned on Evangelion, as it's just going "Oh, you want a show about kids who fight monsters in giant robots? Well, I'll give you that, but let's also show you that being a child soldier fucking blows, and have some fucked up reasons why it needs to be children, since no group of good people would ever force children to fight a war and be mankind's last hope." I figure people would appreciate the realism, but I guess a lot of people just want vapid escapism. (There's nothing wrong with vapid escapism, it just bothers me that people tend to get, like, angry whenever they're confronted with something that actually wants to make a point, or say something besides "Look at this fucking cool shit! That's fucking awesome!". When people can't appreciate something that's good, even if they don't like it, it bothers me. /endrant.)
Though, as an existentialist, watching Shinji take so damn long to realize what I think of as truths about life as a human being got more than a bit tedious. I can only imagine how much it would suck if you actively hated him, and it'd be even worse if you didn't like/believe/understand the philosophy the show was getting at towards the end. But it's clear they were doing it for the art to a degree, so I stand behind it, as there aren't enough shows that do that.
Merchandizing, and the fact that the show's director said outright that a lot of the symbolism was intentionally shallow aside, it is still clear that you just don't get it.Grey Carter said:
Evangellion is a reaction to the legions of shows that have some protagonist male who leaps out of the womb with complete agency and a perfect handle on his life and where he's going with utter immunity to any wrong doing or having anything actually bad happen to them because plot armor. Shinji's thrown into an impossible situation where he can't say no or else he's a massive asshole, and if he goes along with it he's just doing the most agonizing thing possible, and gets to do it over and over, and the people who he protects because of it will just resent the shit out of him because he didn't get everything perfect.
And the only reason he even survives half the time is completely outside of his own ability or power. In the mean time every time his robot takes a blade to the head, gets an arm ripped off, or gets decapitated, he's feeling every second of it. The character makes perfect sense, he's just not someone immediately likeable. God forbid.
No, the show isn't really that deep. Yes, you still don't get it, and that's pretty sad because the show's pretty shallow. It just has a lot to say about a lot of things.
I don't get it.
Edited for content: I mean I don't get the "pwnd" part. Doesn't every piece of art get the merchandise treatment?
Edited for content: I mean I don't get the "pwnd" part. Doesn't every piece of art get the merchandise treatment?
the best part of all this advertising is everyone is assumed dead, or is in a ocean of LCL. except for kaji, cuz hes dead as fuck.
me personally, i'd keep the dorito bags around for the sentimental value. as for rei's tittie-wrist-resters, im better off without them. or who knows, they could work for all their worth. and that shaving ad is hilarious, but i couldnt tell you the difference between razors.
me personally, i'd keep the dorito bags around for the sentimental value. as for rei's tittie-wrist-resters, im better off without them. or who knows, they could work for all their worth. and that shaving ad is hilarious, but i couldnt tell you the difference between razors.
This, sort of. I'm also willing to wager that a lot of the marketing of Evangelion has more to do with Bandai/King Records/Revoltech/Sega and/or who else has licensing rights to the franchise than it does with Gainax/Anno. The show is both deeper than naysayers profess it is and shallower than supporters would like to think. The original Evangelion series deconstructed Super Robot tropes by infusing them with Real Robot elements and examining the real world implications there of, while also exploring the greater implications of common anime story elements at the time. That is what Gainax does and has always done. The fact that lots of anime that came afterwards borrowed heavily, or outright copied, from Evangelion doesn't detract from the point that the series was trying to make.acosn said:
I can't help but feel that a lot people who criticize Evangelion for what it was trying to do are unaware of classic anime like Tetsujin 28, Giant Robo, Mazinger Z, Dancougar, Ideon, Yamato, Getta Robo, Combattler V,the other Go Nagai works, UC Gundam, etc...
Like who?CriticKitten said:
I have quite literally never seen anybody show the kind of attitude you describe. Most fans of the series are likely to be much more knowledgeable about the amount of merchandise available than those who are not. Unless you are suggesting that non-EVA fans spend more time looking up EVA merchandise than the people who actually like the show.
This strikes me as one of those made up arguments like all of the people who claim Valve fans keep talking about how amazing Gordon Freeman is as a character.
I find it funny how many people claim he doesn't get it, while simultaneously not getting the fact that Grey is a satirist and is not trying to make serious points. The irony is almost too much.acosn said:
The fact that Grey has decided to make three comics about a 15 year old anime, despite the multitudes of relevant topics to choose from would suggest that he likes the show. Not forgetting that satire is often focused on things that are close to the heart. After all, if you have personal experience with something, it is a hell of a lot easier to make fun of it.
If this has already been posted then soz, but it's quite literally the funniest EVA "abridged" style parody that exists on the internet and pretty much sums up (plus goes a million yards further 
) than Erin's comic.
The shot-selection/timing isn't on-par with TeamFourStar but it is VERY close, I think I cracked a rib or two during these.
) than Erin's comic. The shot-selection/timing isn't on-par with TeamFourStar but it is VERY close, I think I cracked a rib or two during these.
