Eve Online Panel Encourages Harassing Suicidal Player
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As an eve player: Welcome to Eve: The Game Where Behavior The Gets You Banned Anywhere Else is 'Fair Play'.Akisa said:
I've played since beta and the general behavior of the players has been sliding ever since. 'Well, It's a sandbox' is CCPs usual response to player behavior issues. Of course, mind you, it's not hard to see the logic: Most successful alliances harass their opponents (both in EvE and out of it) until they give up and either leave game or go someplace else. The idea that it would be OK to harass someone until they kill themselves is a logical outgrowth of that in the minds of the sort of scum that run alliances these days.
Unfortunately, if someone were to kill themselves over harassment in eve, it would open CCP and the offending persons to legal action, regardless of the EULA.
Hi Callate. You seem to be quite mad and throw around quote marks all you want to make yourself more of an intellectual-type.Callate said:
You're missing the part that this is Eve-Online, a game that hates you, and 10,000 voters were just disenfranchised by Kneejerk reactions caused by people such as yourself. He's apologised personally to the Miner (Who incidentally wasn't suicidal in any way). He's made two public statements to the fact he's deeply upset at what he did. But no. lets keep pushing to have Goons punished and take the moral high ground over a video game where worse is said in Jita Local every fucking day.
Did you know that Mittens and his wife recieve death threats and CCP does nothing about that? Actual death threats via Mail and E-mail. CCP Does fuck all. Double Standards are great.
Okay, this story genuinely surprised me in too many ways, however upon reading other posts in this thread I see that we have barely seen the title of this book and jumped to a number of conclusions on how it ends.
First: Anyone who doesn't play EVE, including myself, should no longer take any notice of this thread. Apparently, while the remark was in extremely poor taste (and that IS all it was), it was in no way meant to be taken seriously and, for all we know, wasn't. The e-mail was sent six months prior to the event and was a type which is sent all the time, not to warn of suicide (which makes no logical sense as 99% of people would automatically say O RLY? :trollface: ) but was a simple yet oft overused tactic to garner sympathy and prevent further damage to their in-game wares. The person who made the comment at the event was simply bringing it to light and mocking the tactic for it's...well lack of tactical use, albeit in a severely poor manner.
Second: I've heard a few people say the guy who made the comment was drunk. While this does explain how he thought his remark would be funny, however it doesn't say much for the types of people who speak for EVE, without generalisation it simply moves the "why" from the comment to the drunkenness and the acceptance of this man being on the board and speaking.
Third: I've heard some really stupid things in this thread from both sides, most of which boil down to "I don't want to live on this planet anymore". I simply have to say grow up. You don't sound peious you just sound pretentious and frankly you're asking for a whooping from the other side who will take your comment and beat you with it until everyone sees you as nothing but a pretentious fool who wants people to think he's wise. Remember, most news stories like this are over-dramatised (because real life is boring) so if you provide an over-dramatic response to it anyone with any knowledge of the event will take you as nothing but a drama queen. Without sounding too pretentious, this article shows why I don't play online MMOs and this thread has shown why I no longer speak with emotion on these forums. One makes you seem like a prick and the other makes you seem like an ass.
Enjoy your day!
EDIT: Okay I found the actual video of the event and I'm having a hard time finding where the harassment is. Sure they post the guys e-mail and make fun of it but there was nothing there to which I actually said "Hey that's not cool". I didn't even hear the bit where he said to go and harrass the guy and he had stuff either side of it which made fun of other players and while they weren't named, I doubt the crowd would have even remembered to harrass the suicidal guy, who, by the way didn't sound so terribly suicidal. Depressed, yes but not much more than about a billion other people who would be playing EVE or any other MMO. This is why I don't read newspapers.
First: Anyone who doesn't play EVE, including myself, should no longer take any notice of this thread. Apparently, while the remark was in extremely poor taste (and that IS all it was), it was in no way meant to be taken seriously and, for all we know, wasn't. The e-mail was sent six months prior to the event and was a type which is sent all the time, not to warn of suicide (which makes no logical sense as 99% of people would automatically say O RLY? :trollface: ) but was a simple yet oft overused tactic to garner sympathy and prevent further damage to their in-game wares. The person who made the comment at the event was simply bringing it to light and mocking the tactic for it's...well lack of tactical use, albeit in a severely poor manner.
Second: I've heard a few people say the guy who made the comment was drunk. While this does explain how he thought his remark would be funny, however it doesn't say much for the types of people who speak for EVE, without generalisation it simply moves the "why" from the comment to the drunkenness and the acceptance of this man being on the board and speaking.
Third: I've heard some really stupid things in this thread from both sides, most of which boil down to "I don't want to live on this planet anymore". I simply have to say grow up. You don't sound peious you just sound pretentious and frankly you're asking for a whooping from the other side who will take your comment and beat you with it until everyone sees you as nothing but a pretentious fool who wants people to think he's wise. Remember, most news stories like this are over-dramatised (because real life is boring) so if you provide an over-dramatic response to it anyone with any knowledge of the event will take you as nothing but a drama queen. Without sounding too pretentious, this article shows why I don't play online MMOs and this thread has shown why I no longer speak with emotion on these forums. One makes you seem like a prick and the other makes you seem like an ass.
Enjoy your day!
EDIT: Okay I found the actual video of the event and I'm having a hard time finding where the harassment is. Sure they post the guys e-mail and make fun of it but there was nothing there to which I actually said "Hey that's not cool". I didn't even hear the bit where he said to go and harrass the guy and he had stuff either side of it which made fun of other players and while they weren't named, I doubt the crowd would have even remembered to harrass the suicidal guy, who, by the way didn't sound so terribly suicidal. Depressed, yes but not much more than about a billion other people who would be playing EVE or any other MMO. This is why I don't read newspapers.
This is the most disgusting, vile, and disgraceful thing I have ever read about, besides the Holocost.