Evolution...?
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I don't think that with our pace of technological development and the current comfortable state of us that we will evolve much anymore. The next steps take the form of cybernetics. Whether or not that is nature through it's action of evolving our intelligence or if it is us.
5 two letter words in a row, hell yes!
5 two letter words in a row, hell yes!
If this kind of evolution continues, the future human will eventually be a one huge head with no legs, one arm with one finger on it to push a button with and maybe some reproductive organs in order to multiply.(If tech doesn't do that for us too eventually)
Cosider this with the fact in mind that a modern human spends more and more time in front of a computer screen while developing ways of doing less and less physical labour.
Cosider this with the fact in mind that a modern human spends more and more time in front of a computer screen while developing ways of doing less and less physical labour.
Apparently, written language will be lost, since no one can apparently spell anymore. (Seriously, people, Chrome has built in spell-check. Use it, for fuck's sake; it doesn't matter how intelligent your statement actually is if it looks like it was written by an eight-year-old with a serious case of dyslexia.)
OT: I think people would do well to research 'forced evolution'. When nanotechnology and molecular computing become feasible, there is going to be a lot of weird shit going down in the evolution department, particularly in regards to gene therapy and the like. In medical science's quest to identify and eliminate supposed 'cancer genes', you're going to get a lot of unintended consequences, some of which may not be bad.
But it will certainly be freaky.
OT: I think people would do well to research 'forced evolution'. When nanotechnology and molecular computing become feasible, there is going to be a lot of weird shit going down in the evolution department, particularly in regards to gene therapy and the like. In medical science's quest to identify and eliminate supposed 'cancer genes', you're going to get a lot of unintended consequences, some of which may not be bad.
But it will certainly be freaky.
I Think Humanity will branch off into three different Groups:
Group 1: Exypnos Anthropos or "Smart Man", will be the group of Humans who have Bigger Brains and thus continue to have Modern Human Socieities. They will be a bit taller, but also a bit weaker, but their technology will be 50 times more improved then ours.
Group 2: Ischyri Anthropos or "Strong Man", will be the group of Humans who have Bigger Muscles and will have a deformed form of Human Culture (It'll probably be a restart of Human Societies, like Roman and Assyrian Cultures). They will be a bit taller, but stupider, and will probably also be more persuadable. They could be more violent, but perhaps they'd make great workers and soldiers, but this could lead to the Smart Man using the Strong Man as their Paid Armies.
Group 3: Allaxe O Anthropos or "Changed Man", will be a group of both Smart and Strong Men who where Genetically Engineered (Literally, not what Genetically Engineering really means) by either their own want or through payment promises. They will differ from Man to Man: Some might have wings, some might have kitten parts, others might be just gelatinous blob monsters. Some might be accepted into Human Societies, but most will probably live on the fringes of both cultures, and perhaps they would develop their own.
Also Cyborgs, but they'll probably fit into the Smart Man Category.
(PS, I was Using Google Translator to create the Greek Names for the New Humans, so the Greek is probably incorrect)
Group 1: Exypnos Anthropos or "Smart Man", will be the group of Humans who have Bigger Brains and thus continue to have Modern Human Socieities. They will be a bit taller, but also a bit weaker, but their technology will be 50 times more improved then ours.
Group 2: Ischyri Anthropos or "Strong Man", will be the group of Humans who have Bigger Muscles and will have a deformed form of Human Culture (It'll probably be a restart of Human Societies, like Roman and Assyrian Cultures). They will be a bit taller, but stupider, and will probably also be more persuadable. They could be more violent, but perhaps they'd make great workers and soldiers, but this could lead to the Smart Man using the Strong Man as their Paid Armies.
Group 3: Allaxe O Anthropos or "Changed Man", will be a group of both Smart and Strong Men who where Genetically Engineered (Literally, not what Genetically Engineering really means) by either their own want or through payment promises. They will differ from Man to Man: Some might have wings, some might have kitten parts, others might be just gelatinous blob monsters. Some might be accepted into Human Societies, but most will probably live on the fringes of both cultures, and perhaps they would develop their own.
Also Cyborgs, but they'll probably fit into the Smart Man Category.
(PS, I was Using Google Translator to create the Greek Names for the New Humans, so the Greek is probably incorrect)
Ah, but random variations are generally recessive traits and only appear in future generations if your partner has them as well. Unless the variation serves some purpose (or you're close relatives) it's unlikely that your partner will have the same random recessives and your funky genetic abnormalities disappear after 1 or 2 generations.Palademon said:
This is one of the reasons why incest in frowned upon. Also (IMHO), it's also why evolution occurs as a punctuated equilibrium - where dramatic changes happen in periods of severe die-off both because of increased selective pressure and because of a reduced gene pool which promotes the perpetuation of any variations which occur.
...nothing so long as there are creationists refusing to evolve... *cough*Boneasse said:
Sorry that was rude, I'm just so sick of creationists trying to MAKE me believe in their
Ack it just bugs me...
Okay can I ask one question?
Heaven = Gated Community (which last I checked was to keep people out... or in...)
Hell = Fire (which last I checked was Warm and Inviting)
sooo.... huh?
Back On Topic: I don't think anything will happen, or at least nothing we can predict; possibly more brain capacity, or considering the poplution problems, more advanced lungs
There won't be a "next step". The idea of a "step" implies a sudden change or shift of drastic proportions. Evolution, by it's very nature, doesn't work that way. It's a very, VERY slow process spanning thousands to millions of years. It's a gradual change in biological systems. (in small or large scales)Boneasse said:
If, however, you are referring to short-term adaptation, then the most likely step humanity will take will be something along the lines of genetic manipulation or true cybernetic alterations.
The former (genetic manipulations) would involve humanity altering our own genetic structure at infancy. Essentially, changing our unborn children's DNA so as to create generations of humans with specific physical and mental traits. It could be to prevent/cure known diseases, to bolster our physical and mental strengths, or just to create hybrids by splicing our genes with other creatures.
The latter (cybernetic alterations) would involve us infusing (and eventually replacing) our bodies with our own technology. Augmenting our natural abilities and granting us abilities beyond those present in nature.
In either case, this "step" would be more adaptation or short-term forced evolution. Not true, natural evolution.
Wow. Someone with whom I'm in total agreement with. Likewise, I'm glad to see someone else who actually knows the difference between evolution and forced-evolution. We are indeed approaching an age when we will literally be able to "pick and choose" how we evolve. The real kicker will be whether or not we will have evolved mentally, and more importantly ethically, to a point that we can actually make the right choices and not fuck things up royal. That will be the determining factor in humanities continued existence.solidstatemind said:
The only way evolution is going to effect the human race itself is that everyone with less "desirable" traits are not gonna reproduce and this can consist from anything from being an anti social prick to being someone who's genetics caused them to have some sort of dibilitating physical or mental flaw. I mean they can be nice people but it would be much harder to get into a relationship that goes two ways with someone who you have to care for rather then something that does go two ways.
We can start selectively breeding people but that would be so unethical on almost every level and probably wouldn't accomplish much beyond what we already know or believe to be true.
We can start selectively breeding people but that would be so unethical on almost every level and probably wouldn't accomplish much beyond what we already know or believe to be true.
We shall become a brotherhood. We shall become a family. We shall become gods.
Seriously though I think that it will be either an increase in longevity or a better immune system. Mabye a more effective digestive system.
well humans have reached the point where our influence on society shall shift human evolution. the freaks are outcasted, and the norms are loved. so evolution will probably not be very drastic (atleast until we start messing around with human genetics to create a few abominations)
EDIT: actually, future humans will probably be taller, and smarter
EDIT: actually, future humans will probably be taller, and smarter
Evolution doesn't work like that.
We won't evolve suddenly like that, evolution takes so long it's almost unnoticeable. I doubt we'd even evolve anyway, we have no reason to do so with out technology. We don't need to adapt any more.
We won't evolve suddenly like that, evolution takes so long it's almost unnoticeable. I doubt we'd even evolve anyway, we have no reason to do so with out technology. We don't need to adapt any more.
I really hope the intelligence of mankind is the next thing to improve because if these Jersey Shore pricks are going to be around for much longer i hope 2012 is real and New Jersey is the first to go
I see small changes continuing such as people getting taller because height is seen as a positive trait when mating (more commonly for males, but for females it does help to not be 5 foot 2.)
Hopefully our bodies will stop having a certain trait that makes us eat large amounts of food when we get the chance to. Sure,it helped back when food was scarce, but now it just makes people fat.
Hopefully our bodies will stop having a certain trait that makes us eat large amounts of food when we get the chance to. Sure,it helped back when food was scarce, but now it just makes people fat.
Considering the fact that we actively seek out to save and keep alive human beings, who would not be able to survive or continue living without outside help (Myself being an example of someone who would have died before reaching one month of age, without serious surgery), its obvious that the human race is not going to evolve any further.
If anything, i'm looking forward to when we reach a technological level where even coma patients are able to join the army (using their brain activity to remotely control tanks, in the style of Warhammer 40K dreadnoughts).
If anything, i'm looking forward to when we reach a technological level where even coma patients are able to join the army (using their brain activity to remotely control tanks, in the style of Warhammer 40K dreadnoughts).