All the cafes and bars close at nine, they eat when they drink and if you walk down the streets there, shit hasn't been thrown into the water by drunken idiots.gmer412 said:French attitude? Enlighten me.
Over all, they're more sensible.
All the cafes and bars close at nine, they eat when they drink and if you walk down the streets there, shit hasn't been thrown into the water by drunken idiots.gmer412 said:French attitude? Enlighten me.
Almost anyting. Remember, when it comes to protecting children the rules are sometimes bent. (See the FCC, bans on child pornography.) Not that that is nessesarily a bad thing. (Child pornography is a disgusting thing after all.) However, while it is very, very hard to get somthing banned, if there is enough of a public outcry, somthing can simply never be released,(See OJ Simpsons's book.) That's why the system works. People don't like losing money.ejb626 said:This is spreading, first Australia and now England will have a potentially anti-videogame politician, hopefully England has something simmilar to the good ol' first amendmant, which basically says its illegal to ban anything.
That was exactly my point. Everyone knows GTA is not suitable for minors so when he uses that as his example everyone knows what he's saying. That doesn't necessarily mean his misinformed... in fact explain to me how beating hookers to death with your bare hands and pulling illegal jobs is appropriate for minors and then I'll give you that that wasn't a good example of inappropriate games for young children.SirBryghtside said:Your point about GTA is kind of a misunderstanding on your part - almost everyone who hates games will use GTA as an example, therefore it becomes 'generic game hate response A' - the person hasn't actually researched violent games, they've picked a name that is used every five seconds by haters.Taerdin said:I completely agree. I dont think anything he said was particularly out of line. I also don't see him citing "Grand Theft Auto" as being evidence of him being misinformed, its pretty much the most popular game that is inappropriate so it stands to reason that it makes for the most widely understood example. I'm pretty sure the grand theft auto series has outsold say, Madworld, so while it may not be as violent per se, its still a more recognizable example.Onyx Oblivion said:Right there.Logan Westbrook said:"We are driving children to lose their childhood, and some video games are incredibly violent, like Grand Theft Auto. They are meant to be 18 but nobody cares what it says on the label."
The problem isn't games. It's the distribution of games.
But hey, spin your stories how ever you want man. I mean the more of a knee jerk reaction you can get out of the readers the more comments this thread will get, and the more comments the more noticeable it becomes. I totally get it.
Do not invoke Bryghtside's law.
My mother is a single parent, I'm just saying, it's annoying, he never said teenage single parents, just single parents, so I think I have at least a right to be a little annoyed, but whatever. -Shrug- I'm still annoyed, even if it's a bit silly that I am.Signa said:What are you talking about? Single parents are the worst for kids. Especially the moms who want a kid so bad that they go and get pregnant on purpose without a dad around. A kid needs both parents for a balanced upbringing, and I bet you'd have about half the chavs around if they had that growing up.Dyp100 said:Right, he attacks SINGLE PARENTS AS WELL AS GAMERS?
Fuck him, nothing wrong with single parents. -Personal raegggg-
I really hate this country, if I can I'll try to move out, but really, it seems everyone over the game playing age (if there is one) attacks video games as the next media Satan, I guess in 10 or 20 yaers things might start to really calm, but it'd hate to wait that long before we stop getting attacked.
Canada?Nurb said:Geez, seems to be that the US (for now) is going to be the last bastion of freedom of expression in the western world
Maybe things are different here in America then, IDK, but the single mothers I'm talking about literally have kids because they are too old for playing with dolls. They also treat their kids like friends, and don't discipline them. That is what is unhealthy for the kids, not the act of having a kid with only one parent. With the right parent, I don't see it as a problem, but it seems like the majority of single parents out here are just retarded moms who are fixated on the need to reproduce and not the environment they would be raising a kid in.Dyp100 said:My mother is a single parent, I'm just saying, it's annoying, he never said teenage single parents, just single parents, so I think I have at least a right to be a little annoyed, but whatever. -Shrug- I'm still annoyed, even if it's a bit silly that I am.Signa said:What are you talking about? Single parents are the worst for kids. Especially the moms who want a kid so bad that they go and get pregnant on purpose without a dad around. A kid needs both parents for a balanced upbringing, and I bet you'd have about half the chavs around if they had that growing up.Dyp100 said:Right, he attacks SINGLE PARENTS AS WELL AS GAMERS?
Fuck him, nothing wrong with single parents. -Personal raegggg-
I really hate this country, if I can I'll try to move out, but really, it seems everyone over the game playing age (if there is one) attacks video games as the next media Satan, I guess in 10 or 20 yaers things might start to really calm, but it'd hate to wait that long before we stop getting attacked.
IDK, many chavs I know have both parents, but it seems one parents are a bit more commanding then the other, normally the father.
Ah the "Get them drunk from birth approach".SirBryghtside said:In France, they let kids drink a little wine watered down, then less and less watered as they grow up - this gradual change stops the 'YAY WE CAN DRINK NOW LET'S GET DRUNK WITH OUR MATES' attitude.gmer412 said:French attitude? Enlighten me.Booze Zombie said:It sounds like he skirted over the drinking problem to talk about games and single parents.
No one wants to admit it in government, but drinking is actually the main problem with Britain, no one seems willing to address it because they're all too busy being pissed and pretending to represent us.
If perhaps we promoted a more French attitude to drinking, we might have less problems.
Thing is, there's not much the government can do to change our attitudes.
While not as bad as western Europe in terms of censorship. They restrict drawings/writing and unpleasant speech.Wakefield said:Canada?Nurb said:Geez, seems to be that the US (for now) is going to be the last bastion of freedom of expression in the western world
The UN uses other factors when determining the list. If it was in terms of personal liberties and censorship only, then I think the list would be a bit different. Many folks in western Europe are frustrated over the nanny states, Germany being the most guilty of establishing one. Their movie, game, internet and speech censorship is worse off than Australia's I believeEukaryote said:We are pretty awesome. I honestly think we are the best off aside from maybe Sweden and a few others.
Oh, snap, we are 4th on the U.N.'s best places to live, but really we are 2nd, since in Norway you have to deal with a mostly alcoholic and jobless population, and Australia has no freedom(along with Ireland, but they were below us(seriously? An anti-blasphemy law? What is this, the 7th century? Stop electing children into government everyone)).
1. Iceland
2. Norway
3. Australia
4. Canada
5. Ireland