You gotta give Dead Rising 2 some credit for actually fixing their problems. You'd think that would be the first thing a game developer does when they make a sequel.kthy0056 said:
Extra Punctuation: BAFTAs Are Bollocks
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Agreed, lol and agreed. I despair with the human race (inhabiting the UK) for voting CoD:BO as the GAME OF THE YEAR. Ben basically covers my opinion on CoD:BO quite well himself in the article. Just a bit of a lol at the "first" thing and nominating CoD:BO for story!? Seriously say WTF! Story!? As they nominated CoD for story they may as well have nominated pong or PAC-man or something.KILGAZOR said:
Overall a very disappointing year for the BAFTAs.
Yahtzee seems to have forgotten any mention of the hilarity that was the strategy game noms
One word describes it thoroughly - Fallout
These people shouldn't be allowed to comment on games when they can't even figure out how to google the genre of a game....
One word describes it thoroughly - Fallout
These people shouldn't be allowed to comment on games when they can't even figure out how to google the genre of a game....
I can agree with most of what you said.
I don't think Bioshock 2 is as bad as you say it is, but I guess that is where our opinions differ.
I will say, though, that I agree with what you said about Heavy Rain. The game looks great but to me, that is where it ends. The plot holes got me and there were other complaints.
My biggest complaint on heavy rain was
I don't think Bioshock 2 is as bad as you say it is, but I guess that is where our opinions differ.
I will say, though, that I agree with what you said about Heavy Rain. The game looks great but to me, that is where it ends. The plot holes got me and there were other complaints.
My biggest complaint on heavy rain was
Why didn't they make the killer change each time?! I wanted to choices I made to effect who the killer was! *sad face*
Most of the nominations don't make sense. If the artistic award is for graphics, Then I've had many people complain about how Black Ops has worse graphics than Modern Warfare 2. As for it's story nomination, What the hell is wrong with these people?
Well, it's still up in the air whether or not Yahtzee is actually a massive and very skilful caricature of all the people on here. Also, since he's a professional game critic (on paper at least), one could dubiously argue that he's allowed to phrase his arguments objectively.jjboat said:
The people in this thread, however, are being decidedly unironic and treating their opinions as fact. Which is very arrogant.
Just when I'd started to believe the Escapist community was 90% great, this thread crushes my hopes and proves that actually it's only around 60%.
how the hell did blops get #1 for public option? i get it has a "decent" initial play value (online only, the story mode is a bunch of BS with no plot and just explosions, the video game equivalent of a micheal bay film), but seriously the multi-player gaming online drops off significantly after about the first 4 hours or so. the only reason i still have the garbage in my collection is because the zombie mode is fun-as-hell to play with friends.
They both have a rope!dunam said:
Just like every physics catapult game ever was obviously ripped off by angry birds because they both have catapults and things to launch at!
*throws up fist*
Innocents! All these flash games were innocent and the evil iPhone robbed them all!
*faints*
I can sort of see why Black Ops had a story nomination because it was slightly compelling for the incredibly short time that it lasted and it was different to what the previous games did.
It was really a copy of the twist in Fight Club though.
And best game of the year?
It wasn't even that good.
It didn't innovate anything or change anything. It was just the same game in a different setting.
It was really a copy of the twist in Fight Club though.
And best game of the year?
It wasn't even that good.
It didn't innovate anything or change anything. It was just the same game in a different setting.
cod black ops goot the award
its things like this that make me lose all faith in popular gaming
i mean seriously how many times can they re- skin call of duty while adding nothing, and ruining the multiplayer more with every installment
its things like this that make me lose all faith in popular gaming
i mean seriously how many times can they re- skin call of duty while adding nothing, and ruining the multiplayer more with every installment
Hmmm. Categorical hierarchy rather than a numeric one (apart from "Best" which would imply #1). Still skirting the edge of Objective->Subjective there Mr. Croshaw.
Nothing really of note here except the GAME Award.
It's absolutely pathetic that Call of Duty 4.3 (Black Ops) is that powerful, despite being the same motherfucking game for the third year in a row. It isn't bad on its own merits (in a vacuum, I wouldn't have many objective complaints), but this is the culmination of popularity triumphing over creativity.
This is the market throwing up their hands and saying "But who cares about creativity? That shit is for pretentious has-beens and assholes; I just want to shoot Nazis/Terrorists/Aliens in the face with an assault rifle!"
The problem is that it's a self-destructive trend in an industry based on a creative medium; yet we keep telling ourselves it isn't because it continues to churn out mega-hit after mega-hit.
Hell, I've heard people try to justify it as an "MMO-Like Game that updates itself yearly. It even costs less than 10/15 bucks a month!" If people are now willing to stretch reality that far to justify its existence (or rather, their purchase), then nothing I say matters anyway.
Eventually, the party has to end, and people will get tired of the Call of Duty model.
When it does, heads will roll.
Nothing really of note here except the GAME Award.
It's absolutely pathetic that Call of Duty 4.3 (Black Ops) is that powerful, despite being the same motherfucking game for the third year in a row. It isn't bad on its own merits (in a vacuum, I wouldn't have many objective complaints), but this is the culmination of popularity triumphing over creativity.
This is the market throwing up their hands and saying "But who cares about creativity? That shit is for pretentious has-beens and assholes; I just want to shoot Nazis/Terrorists/Aliens in the face with an assault rifle!"
The problem is that it's a self-destructive trend in an industry based on a creative medium; yet we keep telling ourselves it isn't because it continues to churn out mega-hit after mega-hit.
Hell, I've heard people try to justify it as an "MMO-Like Game that updates itself yearly. It even costs less than 10/15 bucks a month!" If people are now willing to stretch reality that far to justify its existence (or rather, their purchase), then nothing I say matters anyway.
Eventually, the party has to end, and people will get tired of the Call of Duty model.
When it does, heads will roll.
all of these are pathetically bad:
action: not a bad choice but the nomination of bioshock 2 is just plain wrong, and COD BlOps is identical to MW2, so it's kind of insulting that people think a generic copypasta series should be nominated for any sort of award
artistic achievement:
even going on just graphics, GoW3 is a shaky choice... i'd go with LIMBO or Heavy Rain myself, with maybe mass effect 2's sense of scale and epicness thrown in their or something. also, AC Bro? really? sure the city is pretty and all, but really? if AC BRO is nominated then the lack of red dead redemption is sorely lacking
story: didn't play it enough to comment on any plot holes he might have found, but a vaguely incomprehensible story seems to be the general consensus of reviewers. alan wake and mass effect 2 are clearly the front runners from the nomination list.
bioshock 2, COD BlOps, and Fallout: NV all had pedestrian at best stories, so i have no clue why they were even nominated
technical innovation:
what the hell is with these nominations?
heavy rain and kinectimals are the only ones on here who really deserve a nomination, since SMG2 is essentially SMG1, so you can't call that innovation... i suppose youcould make a case for reach because of the complete overhaul of the series, but still, really?
Handheld
yea sure fair enough
best game
i agree with this but i'm biased. Heavy Rain was barely even a game so if you're deciding this at least partially on gameplay that's a waste of a nomination. likewise with SMG2. AC:B is ACII with the ability to hurl assassins at people you don't like and a decent continuation of the story, so i understand the nomination.. notable missing games here include... well i suppose this is a console thing, so starcraft 2 and the latest WoW expansion weren't under review, but i'm kind of surprised GoW3 didn't get nominated... it seems like the shallow, weak character slashfest most forum-active gamers would love... also expected halo reach to get nominated purely on the fanboy contingent
where is red dead redemption in all this?
fan awarded:
my faith in humanity is gone. dance central and BOD BlOps are both average games, SMG2 doesn't deserve to be on this list, and is NFS included just so they can have a game from each genre or something? there really haven't been that many stellar releases this year, but the racing genre has better games to offer
action: not a bad choice but the nomination of bioshock 2 is just plain wrong, and COD BlOps is identical to MW2, so it's kind of insulting that people think a generic copypasta series should be nominated for any sort of award
artistic achievement:
even going on just graphics, GoW3 is a shaky choice... i'd go with LIMBO or Heavy Rain myself, with maybe mass effect 2's sense of scale and epicness thrown in their or something. also, AC Bro? really? sure the city is pretty and all, but really? if AC BRO is nominated then the lack of red dead redemption is sorely lacking
story: didn't play it enough to comment on any plot holes he might have found, but a vaguely incomprehensible story seems to be the general consensus of reviewers. alan wake and mass effect 2 are clearly the front runners from the nomination list.
bioshock 2, COD BlOps, and Fallout: NV all had pedestrian at best stories, so i have no clue why they were even nominated
technical innovation:
what the hell is with these nominations?
heavy rain and kinectimals are the only ones on here who really deserve a nomination, since SMG2 is essentially SMG1, so you can't call that innovation... i suppose youcould make a case for reach because of the complete overhaul of the series, but still, really?
Handheld
yea sure fair enough
best game
i agree with this but i'm biased. Heavy Rain was barely even a game so if you're deciding this at least partially on gameplay that's a waste of a nomination. likewise with SMG2. AC:B is ACII with the ability to hurl assassins at people you don't like and a decent continuation of the story, so i understand the nomination.. notable missing games here include... well i suppose this is a console thing, so starcraft 2 and the latest WoW expansion weren't under review, but i'm kind of surprised GoW3 didn't get nominated... it seems like the shallow, weak character slashfest most forum-active gamers would love... also expected halo reach to get nominated purely on the fanboy contingent
where is red dead redemption in all this?
fan awarded:
my faith in humanity is gone. dance central and BOD BlOps are both average games, SMG2 doesn't deserve to be on this list, and is NFS included just so they can have a game from each genre or something? there really haven't been that many stellar releases this year, but the racing genre has better games to offer
Sooo.. BLACK OPS gets a nomination for the story but Red Dead Redemption doesn't? BAH! Who the hell chooses these?
Black Ops deserved a victory in the last category, it is really good, arcade(ish) FPS and it is much fun to play whit friends.
Black Ops deserved a victory in the last category, it is really good, arcade(ish) FPS and it is much fun to play whit friends.
Aw, I was pushing for Reach to get the technical innovation one.
The new Reach engine was a massive boon for the gameplay and, like all the Halo games, always had great scenery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgjylRdDrIA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
The new Reach engine was a massive boon for the gameplay and, like all the Halo games, always had great scenery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgjylRdDrIA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL