"Right, fuckstick, tell me what I want to know; I've got to get back to your mum."cjbos81 said:
That would be quite interesting.
Extra Punctuation: Yahtzee Could Have Written Duke Nukem Forever
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That would be quite interesting.
No, you haven't. You're writing two columns (one of which has accompanying animation), chiming in on an irregular third column (Extra Consideration), doing a podcast with Gabriel, co-running a bar in Brisbane, getting ready to open a second bar in Melbourne (next week!), and writing trivia contests every other week. And for all we know, you're out fighting crime every night.Yahtzee said:
"It's people like that who make you realize how little you've accomplished. It's a sobering thought, for example, that when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for two years." -- Tom Lehrer
BTW, I'd never heard of planking before.
I actually liked Yahtzee's Duke Nukem Forever storyline in his fun review. A struggle to reclaim earth and the whole "hiding out" thing had a lot of potential, and there's not reason you couldn't infiltrate some sort of trans-species wedding while trying to liberate the planet. There's a lot of potential beneath the jokes.
I always thought Yahtzee was a good writer (I watch a LOT of ZP, too much sometimes) and I haven't gotten around to playing any of his stuff yet, but without a doubt he's got tons of talent
I always thought Yahtzee was a good writer (I watch a LOT of ZP, too much sometimes) and I haven't gotten around to playing any of his stuff yet, but without a doubt he's got tons of talent
From the article:
"I've never played their previous games before, the Sly Cooper series, but now I kind of want to. All in all, well done Sucker Punch, they deserve to be bigger names than they are."
Absolutely. The Sly Cooper games are top notch and when the pickpocket mechanic is introduced in the 2nd game, I would wander around levels just to do that. Check them out.
"I've never played their previous games before, the Sly Cooper series, but now I kind of want to. All in all, well done Sucker Punch, they deserve to be bigger names than they are."
Absolutely. The Sly Cooper games are top notch and when the pickpocket mechanic is introduced in the 2nd game, I would wander around levels just to do that. Check them out.
Try the Sly Collection.
Just be wary that the age market is low, so the game's are piss-easy. But still very fun!
Just be wary that the age market is low, so the game's are piss-easy. But still very fun!
Dear Epic Games.
Lease People Can Fly studios to Yahtzee for one game. Have them make whatever story he wants to tell.
I PROMISE you.... it will sell well.
Sincerely,
A humble Yahtzee fan and Escapist.
Lease People Can Fly studios to Yahtzee for one game. Have them make whatever story he wants to tell.
I PROMISE you.... it will sell well.
Sincerely,
A humble Yahtzee fan and Escapist.
i really have no idea what you are talking about
the end of both of the campaigns might be ending the big story arc but both of them offer at the same time a very different and exciting new startoff point for a new arc
i'd expect a real end to be a world in a state like it was before the story
in the case of infamous that's only the case for the good version...
and you could even do away with the moral choice system in part 3(although there will be good opportunities to implement it... and do it better)
i certainly hope for another game as there can never be enough good open world games
the end of both of the campaigns might be ending the big story arc but both of them offer at the same time a very different and exciting new startoff point for a new arc
i'd expect a real end to be a world in a state like it was before the story
in the case of infamous that's only the case for the good version...
...but even the good end hinted some chance of continuation
a continuation where cole is alive but this time really the only conduit
hell they could even start it off with a mad scientist who revived him with even more powers and evil
the bad end is even more inspiring
with a world full of super humans there will be so many interesting social, political, technological etc aspects to be discovered
which will probably end in a civil war between the conduits a la x-men
a continuation where cole is alive but this time really the only conduit
hell they could even start it off with a mad scientist who revived him with even more powers and evil
the bad end is even more inspiring
with a world full of super humans there will be so many interesting social, political, technological etc aspects to be discovered
which will probably end in a civil war between the conduits a la x-men
and you could even do away with the moral choice system in part 3(although there will be good opportunities to implement it... and do it better)
i certainly hope for another game as there can never be enough good open world games
No. The people waiting for the game didn't give two shits about the character. It was the gameplay what made 3D fun, not the cliche quote spewing douche-bag of a protagonist. At least that was what I felt. Forever completely missed the point. Same shit character, new shit gameplay. Too bad he lost what he wrote, I would liked to have seen that.Zhukov said:
Ignoring how I could not possibly disagree more with everything said about Sucker Punch, LittleBigPlanet 2 changed from the 5 star ratings in the first game to like and dislike for the second game. It works okay I guess, but personally I'd prefer it there was a neutral button. Sometimes it's not good enough to like but not bad enough to dislike, and we should be able to rate it as such. Instead you don't get to vote at all if that's how you feel about a level, and then every time I look at a level's ratings and the number of votes VS the much greater number of plays, I always wonder how many people were too lazy to vote and how many people didn't vote because there wasn't an option to express their thoughts on the level.
And then there are the people around various LBP forums who spout hippie free love crap about giving every level a "like" vote regardless of quality because someone spent time creating it and they don't want to hurt anyone's feelings or shit like that. Yeah thanks a lot, the rest of us trying to use the ratings to decide if we should spend our time playing that level or not really appreciate your total disregard for how ratings are supposed to work.
And then there are the people around various LBP forums who spout hippie free love crap about giving every level a "like" vote regardless of quality because someone spent time creating it and they don't want to hurt anyone's feelings or shit like that. Yeah thanks a lot, the rest of us trying to use the ratings to decide if we should spend our time playing that level or not really appreciate your total disregard for how ratings are supposed to work.
Compared to the completely mindless drivel Sucker Punch usually puts out, anything even remotely resembling a decent story would seem outstanding. Compared to the rest of the industry though, you're right. It shouldn't get nearly as much praise. It's just people overblowing the fact that Sucker Punch didn't make everything about one of their games completely bad for once.Zhukov said:
I wouldn't be so sure. I really can't speak for Duke Nukem fans, since I'm definately not one of them, but I have seen plenty of comments along the lines of, "I just wanted a game that let me play as Duke again."MR.Spartacus said:
Uhh... okay.mjc0961 said:
Look, if you want to hate on someone or something, go right ahead. But I don't really see why you need to direct it at me.
I used to have a lot of fun with map editors, Age of Empires even let you design your own campaign. I also had hours of fun making my own maps for Timesplitters.
User generated content seems to be a thing of the past but I'd like to see a revival.
User generated content seems to be a thing of the past but I'd like to see a revival.
I actually toyed around with the ending of Infamous 2 and it can only go several ways. Cole, if in the bad ending, must be knocked out by some stronger conduit (or multiple conduits, which would work best as a seperate faction). He should be transported to the city his body is going to in the good ending. Amnesia would be Cole's main affliction in this story. That's one.
Another is that the player's choice is disregarded and one of the endings takes prominence albeit karmic choice. The good ending works well, because Nix, playing as Cole's romantic interest during the evil missions, can be seen as a reason for him to resort to the "good" ending (now in quotations, being no longer polemically good). Also Kuo is a *****, and those who tend to be immoral are often self-centered and apathetic to altruistic motives. If I had lightning powers and I was rockers I would never join Kuo to destroy/"save" the world. A big part of the following game would then be Cole exploring his real interests in love and whether he's acting out as a thug because of neglect, primarily from Trish in the original. Continuing from the evil decision is harder. There are ways of doing it, but it's beyond the current storytelling abilities of the industry (in that I don't trust the writers of today to create it). The only way for this to work is to control a different character.
On the story of Infamous 2, my opinion of it is described by my feelings in Kuo's Graveyard scene. The emotion was very much there--surprising me greatly--but the writing was really flat. That's embarassing and disappointing. There were a lot of themes to explore in this speech: the seperation of man and superman, what the designation of humanity means, what responsibility entails from all of us. Instead it was about Kuo getting violated by a machine, which doesn't go places except in the ending. However, the series is still a watermark in videogame creativity. I never expected such a view on ice powers, similar to how I never expected giant trash monsters to have great significance in a sandbox.
Another is that the player's choice is disregarded and one of the endings takes prominence albeit karmic choice. The good ending works well, because Nix, playing as Cole's romantic interest during the evil missions, can be seen as a reason for him to resort to the "good" ending (now in quotations, being no longer polemically good). Also Kuo is a *****, and those who tend to be immoral are often self-centered and apathetic to altruistic motives. If I had lightning powers and I was rockers I would never join Kuo to destroy/"save" the world. A big part of the following game would then be Cole exploring his real interests in love and whether he's acting out as a thug because of neglect, primarily from Trish in the original. Continuing from the evil decision is harder. There are ways of doing it, but it's beyond the current storytelling abilities of the industry (in that I don't trust the writers of today to create it). The only way for this to work is to control a different character.
On the story of Infamous 2, my opinion of it is described by my feelings in Kuo's Graveyard scene. The emotion was very much there--surprising me greatly--but the writing was really flat. That's embarassing and disappointing. There were a lot of themes to explore in this speech: the seperation of man and superman, what the designation of humanity means, what responsibility entails from all of us. Instead it was about Kuo getting violated by a machine, which doesn't go places except in the ending. However, the series is still a watermark in videogame creativity. I never expected such a view on ice powers, similar to how I never expected giant trash monsters to have great significance in a sandbox.
*Looks at fake DNF review.*
*Looks at article.*
To think, maybe Vladimir Lestrade could have been real!
(I'm sorry, but if you're at the point where you're honestly debating if a phrase is 'something Duke Nukem would really say' then you're beyond hope. Step away from the Duke.)
*Looks at article.*
To think, maybe Vladimir Lestrade could have been real!
(I'm sorry, but if you're at the point where you're honestly debating if a phrase is 'something Duke Nukem would really say' then you're beyond hope. Step away from the Duke.)
...Ben "Yahtzee" Crowshaw...could have used his story for "Duke Nukem: Forever"...but was then denied, due to a weird delusion that Duke was to be taken as a serious character, not as a parody?
... wow, just... wow, that's a new kind of hurt. I think my very soul is offended.
Don't get me wrong, never cared either way about DNF, but fuck me, there's NO WAY that game wouldn't have at least been interesting, getting to watch a lunatic like Yahtzee twist the DN universe as he saw fit. Not to mention it would have at least doubled the sales of the game, since they'd be appealing to a whole new audience with a celebrity like Yahtzee in the staff. A game that's been in production for 12 bloody years could have used that publicity, instead of blindly charging forth with their game out of bum-fuck nowhere, with a product that's about as edgy as a drawer full of butter knives.
... wow, just... wow, that's a new kind of hurt. I think my very soul is offended.
Don't get me wrong, never cared either way about DNF, but fuck me, there's NO WAY that game wouldn't have at least been interesting, getting to watch a lunatic like Yahtzee twist the DN universe as he saw fit. Not to mention it would have at least doubled the sales of the game, since they'd be appealing to a whole new audience with a celebrity like Yahtzee in the staff. A game that's been in production for 12 bloody years could have used that publicity, instead of blindly charging forth with their game out of bum-fuck nowhere, with a product that's about as edgy as a drawer full of butter knives.
Too bad they didn't like your idea, I think making it an ironic game about Duke as a relic of the 90's trying to find his place in today's world. Also the start of the game where it turns out it was Duke playing a game, I would have made that the ending.
Here's my synopsis: After the events of 3D, Duke has fallen into obscurity and is looked down upon as an old relic of the past. But then the aliens return and it's up to Duke to show the world how kick ass...90's style!
It's a shame that after such a long wait they couldn't make something that was at least passable, nothing could have lived up to the hype but at least something decent instead of a giant turd.
Here's my synopsis: After the events of 3D, Duke has fallen into obscurity and is looked down upon as an old relic of the past. But then the aliens return and it's up to Duke to show the world how kick ass...90's style!
It's a shame that after such a long wait they couldn't make something that was at least passable, nothing could have lived up to the hype but at least something decent instead of a giant turd.