Fine then, read the article I posted. tell me you support Bill after he harasses a woman on vacation.Pumpkin_Eater said:
Fair and Balanced...O'Really?
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Pretty sure that would require enough salt to mummify a person.[/quote]NeutralDrow said:
You didn't answer my question, I asked you to name one, just one person who presents the issues more fairly than Bill O'Reilly and you couldn't do it. Bill O'Reilly haters always have to dodge that question because they can't give a straightforward answer.
Fox news heads admit the bias. Here is what Norvell, London bureau chief for Fox News, fessed up to in the May 20, 2008 Wall Street Journal Europe:
"Even we at Fox News manage to get some lefties on the air occasionally, and often let them finish their sentences before we club them to death and feed the scraps to Karl Rove and Bill O'Reilly. And those who hate us can take solace in the fact that they aren't subsidizing Bill's bombast; we payers of the BBC license fee don't enjoy that peace of mind.
Fox News is, after all, a private channel and our presenters are quite open about where they stand on particular stories. That's our appeal. People watch us because they know what they are getting. The Beeb's institutionalized leftism would be easier to tolerate if the corporation was a little more honest about it."
"Even we at Fox News manage to get some lefties on the air occasionally, and often let them finish their sentences before we club them to death and feed the scraps to Karl Rove and Bill O'Reilly. And those who hate us can take solace in the fact that they aren't subsidizing Bill's bombast; we payers of the BBC license fee don't enjoy that peace of mind.
Fox News is, after all, a private channel and our presenters are quite open about where they stand on particular stories. That's our appeal. People watch us because they know what they are getting. The Beeb's institutionalized leftism would be easier to tolerate if the corporation was a little more honest about it."
The media has been lying since its creation, I don't know why this comes as a surprise to anyone.
I've not only seen the show but I've read one of his books. I would definitely never imagine myself calling Bill O'Reilly "open minded". "Straight forward" perhaps, but definitely not open minded. Although he calls it the no spin zone, he makes his agenda very clear, and goes to great lengths to protect his agenda even at the cost of integrity.Pumpkin_Eater said:
Nobody cares that they have a bias, you'd be kidding yourself if you said any newscaster or network didn't have a bias. what people are complaining about is the lies told on the network and the way in which they conduct journalism.Nurb said:
Murdoch renounced his Australian citizenship over 20 years ago, because he had to be a US citizen to own a TV station there.Pseudonym2 said:
Like I've said before on other threads : I HATE FOX NEWS.
I've never seen more biased and anti-democratic press people in my life.
I've never seen more biased and anti-democratic press people in my life.
In North Korea, the state controls the media. In America, it's more complicated than that. You have to maintain the facade of democracy, which can be done by consolidating government into "parties" or factions. Now, a state run media network that's any more than NPR might not work well in the States. But a party, which in every way that matters is the state, can own and operate a major media outlet like FOX News effectively.
And the other side has NBC. No different.
And the other side has NBC. No different.
Why would I withdraw my support of O'Reilly over an alleged incident that was perpetrated by someone else? This is clearly a highly biased article that was written with the sole purpose of ruining O'Reilly's good name. Even if the alleged incidents did occur that's nothing more than hard hitting investigative journalism. Michael Moore does things like this all the time and gets called a hero for it, so why should it be any different for Fox News?black lincon said:
Again though, the article didn't mention any evidence of this incident's occurrence other than the victim's testimony that I noticed.
Does believing fervently in one's ideals make one close minded?runtheplacered said:
You still haven't named anyone, you're just dodging the question by saying "lots of people." If there are so many it should be easy to give me some names, right? Of course those are all very biased liberal media outlets, so I would be very pleasantly surprised if I were to be introduced to an unbiased commentator working in any of those organizations.mokes310 said:
Balance is impossible, Don't waste your time trying to get it. People will always be bias even if the reasons are feasible. For example, FOX channel seems to be an anti-obama type of thing, people out there seem to shove these ideas down your throat too! But as you watch them both CBS and FOX, you find out that the way that the FOX staff is reacting as extreme and insulting to the obama administration might be, they are just reacting to the massive obama butt kissing. I my self found allot about what FOX is trying to say. I never watched for before mostly because I gay and gay groups shove down your throat (Pun not intended) the idea that all that is not liberal wants us all dead. But one bad day I watched bill O'Reilly and frankly he is really frank also I saw one day they were discussing gay rights and if you watched you would know that he isn't hateful, not even bias, and one time he even defended gay rights! "What the hell, did a republican just defend MY rights!" I realized then that well I have been eating lies, LIES! mostly from liberal media and liberal groups.
If you want balance, you might need to find it within your self. Your own balance is unbalanced to other human beings. A balance within the whole human race? absolutely impossible!
If you want balance, you might need to find it within your self. Your own balance is unbalanced to other human beings. A balance within the whole human race? absolutely impossible!
Oh really, no proof other than witness testimony you say? Well I'm sorry to inform you, it happened [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/24/oreilly-producer-stalks-a_n_178468.html]. Now I don't watch a lot of the factor but from that piece I can tell that he's both close minded and paranoid.Pumpkin_Eater said:
Wow. Apparently, some people are blind to the O'Reilly Factor - which is tell people what they want to hear even if he really doesn't believe it himself, because racist, sexist and other polarizing comments grow the show. He's a SHOCK JOCK on TV. That's what he does - he doesn't tell you how it is, he tells you how religious, neo-Conservatives want to hear it. He's not stupid - just very manipulative. He thrives off people's misery for his own personal glow. Controversy makes his show popular - not facts or real interviews.Pumpkin_Eater said:
Bill O'Reilly isn't the worst by far, since Rush Limbaugh owns the title of Greatest Damaging and Dishonest Windbag in Media. But he is fairly biased. He doesn't give a shit who he hurts, when he hurts them, as long as he pleases his media handlers and has a high rating at the end of the night. He has a high rating because the people who hate him and know the truth listen to see what other crap comes out of his mouth.
Don't get me started on Hannity. Hannity mimics both Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly in the hopes of getting half the money they make for being on TV. Half the time, he doesn't even have the facts straigth - he just makes up shit off the top of his head when someone questions his reporting. He also has a knee-jerk reaction to most of his stories, since he can't stand being criticized or wrong.
Lou Dobbs is the perfect example of that happening on the other side of the line. Lou Dobbs thinks he's the official pundit for Conservatives on liberal media, which means he twists most of the facts with his personal opinion. The guy criticizes Obama for apologizing to Europe for all the diplomatic cold shoulder we've given them, by using economic facts and talking about military posts in Europe. Dude, that's not even the same thing, dumbass.
Man, I don't like Obama either, but you Kool Aid-drinking, fanatical anti-Obamites really have to cool it and not give in to e-mail hoaxes and Internet rumors. He makes mistakes because he's human, and yes, the liberal media isn't going to criticize him about it. Which is why you have to read between the lines no matter who you watch. But you can limit your exposure to the stupidity by not tuning in to Dobbs, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity or O'Reilly (among the fifty others from all cable networks who have literal talk shows about politics).
Bill Maher? Well first of all there is the problem of him being a comedian and not a journalist. Secondly, how in the world is he open minded? All he does is ridicule anyone and everyone that doesn't share his leftist views of the world. Just listen to the awful things he says about Sarah Palin.Glerken said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a3fSoX3cg0