Fake Geek Girls

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I'm not a gamer, or interested in comics, because I know it'll get me guys. Hell, I'm interested in those kind of guys because they have similar interests to me. But I've kind of always been into those things - I get it from my dad and sister. :I Telling me I'm "fake" doesn't make me want to stop being interested in these things. Dayumn.
 

jmarquiso

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The Tall Nerd said:
Its like going to a football game because you like the uniforms,we have arrived here for different reasons, and for most people in a validity arguments i am going to win a few more bouts.But then again at least you reasons is the fake nerd thing, i hold no qualms against genders, but fake nerds in general. like TV show hosts or actors, that you know aren't really investing time but just judging their audience.
I used to work in Broadcast TV, specifically sports. I was rather indifferent about sports, but had to watch a lot for research and became a TV Graphics Geek. I watched the score graphics, the transitions, how they moved. Got really into it. That Fox football robot really annoyed me, I'd have nightmares. It got to the point where I'd comment on them at Superbowl parties, and people would nod and smile.

True story.

All that said, I've known a lot of people who's interest in sports and TV was purely social. They only followed it so they'd have something to talk about at the office, a shared cultural experience. It allowed for small talk and solidarity with your friends. I know that I've done it. It's called water cooler talk.

I've never met a hardcore sports fan who called me on it with the sort of vitriol that the Harris post had.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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jmarquiso said:
vxicepickxv said:
Captain Pancake said:
Ben Reilly.
That is the most correct answer as Ben was the only intact clone. You could have also, just to spite everyone else in the world, use Kane.
Kane didn't take over for Peter, though.

Ironic Captcha: Manolo Blahnik - describe this brand

I had to look it up on Wikipedia in order to answer.
There was a previous clone saga in the 1970's in which a clone of Peter Parker (who actually thought he was Peter) took Spider-man's place. He came back later on for the second one :p

Sometimes I feel old.
 

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I'm pretty sure that fake geek girls are supposed to be girls that think they're nerds but actually aren't, and then talk about how feminist they are. Of course, the only possibility for their existence is that they existed a long time ago.
 

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The internet: "God, girls only date jerks! Why don't they see that I'm a nice person and that video games are cool?"
A girl: "Oh, I like video games... *cheerfully* I really liked Sleeping Dogs, Did you play that?"
The internet: "WHORE! Fake, slut, get the hell out and stop trying to ruin video games!!! *sobs*"

The depths of stupidity that men on the internet sink to never fails to astound me...
 

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Nerds and gamers are the most sensitive bitter little shits when it comes to their culture. Which is ironic because they likely spend the bulk of their younger years trying to fit in. I've met some really smart hot chicks who like maybe one or two things geek. I guess this makes them poseurs because they're hot and haven't watched a minimum of a fuck ton of anime? Or maybe its because they are fuckable by anyone not a fat out of shape slob?

This "nerd cred" is full of so much shit I think it just might spawn a golgathan. If you are offended by scantilly clad cosplayers, the problem lies only with your own self esteem and some strange sense of puritanism. Our culture of nerdom is going main stream and there is nothing wrong with that. If you are concerned more with the exclusivity of the content than the content itself, your priorities are fucked.
 

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Yes, because a subculture having a barrier of entry is something unheard of. I really don't get journalists' recent obsession with chastising the gaming community.

As long as gamers aren't lighting cars on fire because their SC team lost, or parents fear taking their kids to a gaming convention because the Halo and CoD hooligans might be going at each other, you can take your condescending shit elsewhere.
 

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Really? No one's gonna say it? I have to be *that* guy?

Mami doesn't use anything remotely pistol-shaped, she uses flintlock rifles.
 

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Deskimus Prime said:
Really? No one's gonna say it? I have to be *that* guy?

Mami doesn't use anything remotely pistol-shaped, she uses flintlock rifles.
I don't think a silencer would work on a flintlock so y'know...
 

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The Tall Nerd said:
jmarquiso said:
The Tall Nerd said:
Its like going to a football game because you like the uniforms,we have arrived here for different reasons, and for most people in a validity arguments i am going to win a few more bouts.But then again at least you reasons is the fake nerd thing, i hold no qualms against genders, but fake nerds in general. like TV show hosts or actors, that you know aren't really investing time but just judging their audience.
I used to work in Broadcast TV, specifically sports. I was rather indifferent about sports, but had to watch a lot for research and became a TV Graphics Geek. I watched the score graphics, the transitions, how they moved. Got really into it. That Fox football robot really annoyed me, I'd have nightmares. It got to the point where I'd comment on them at Superbowl parties, and people would nod and smile.

True story.

All that said, I've known a lot of people who's interest in sports and TV was purely social. They only followed it so they'd have something to talk about at the office, a shared cultural experience. It allowed for small talk and solidarity with your friends. I know that I've done it. It's called water cooler talk.

I've never met a hardcore sports fan who called me on it with the sort of vitriol that the Harris post had.
it doesn't make you any less of person, though there is difference of you having some knowledge of sports and who ever these people are talking about having basically no knowledge of said subject matter.

but i am not gonna go into that one too deep( im not entirely sure i have a deep opinion on this, this is the first i have heard people lashing out about it), i have already stated i feel if you put that much costume on, you should know something or have some information on what your wearing. but that's more of a common sense thing, rather than a fake nerd thing.
I guess I didn't finish before going off on my amusing anecdote. All of that was a starting point for an interest in Sports. I managed to have good conversations after that without problem. Your average sports fan also doesn't mind if you're wearing team colors, and can't name a favorite player. They can't have those deeper conversations, obviously, but you're not thought less of. You're showing support, and they know that. Wearing a costume to a con - one that you put hard work on based on an image - well, let's just say you might know more about costuming than the guy asking you if you know what issue the character debuted in. But one of them is going to be more defensive about it.
 

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I think what's happening, with "fake gamer girls" thing, is that two stereotypes and a definition problem are being smashed together as only the internet can, and the resulting turbulence is what is fueling this "debate."

The first stereotype is that all gamers are smart. And while this may be true in many cases, there are still plenty of nerds that can recite every known race in the Star Wars universe, but can't master college-level math.

The second stereotype is that beauty and brains don't go together; this goes for both genders. No matter where you look, it's very rare to see a smart person portrayed as beautiful or a beautiful person portrayed as smart.

When you put these two stereotypes together, you end up with this logically sound, but still false, conclusion. "All gamers are smart. No beautiful people are smart. Therefore, no beautiful people are gamers."

These two stereotypes are heavily reinforced by modern media, and so, people tend to assume they are true in real life, leading to the distrust of beautiful people trying to "infiltrate" a smart-people club. Since "logically," they can't be smart, and therefore can't be gamers, they must have some other, ulterior motive for wanting to hang around gamers.

These stereotypes play a big role in this "debate." However, I think the biggest problem is that the meaning of the word "gamer" has changed significantly over the last few years.

There was a time when "gamer" meant "one who plays video games." This was because being someone who played video games was the exception, rather than the rule.

Now, with the popularity explosion of smart phones, tablets, and other mobile devices, virtually everyone plays video games, and thus, playing video games is the rule, rather than the exception.

While I can't speak for other languages, I know that in English, we name something that is the exception, rather than the rule. For example, there is no word for "one who is alive and needs to breathe," because needing to breathe is the rule, rather than the exception. Likewise, there is no word for "one who is not a Mormon." The word "non-Mormon" is simply derived from "Mormon," since being Mormon is the exception, rather than the rule.

And so, I believe that the big debate here is actually over what the word "gamer" means. There is a growing number of people who use the term "gamer" in the same way we use the terms "bookworm" or "film buff," as someone who is a connoisseur of games.

According to this definition, someone who only plays WoW or Call of Duty or Angry Birds is not a gamer, in the same way that someone who only reads Harry Potter or the Lord of the Rings is not a bookworm. This does not make them lesser fans of their favorite franchises, but they are not connoisseurs of their respective mediums.

It is this disconnect of definitions that I think is fueling this debate, and the associated nerd-rage that accompanies it. According to the original definition of "gamer," these "fake gamer girls" would be gamers, but under the newer definition, they would not.

Modern gamers are a clique with various customs, social cues, and terminologies, and as such, when they see someone claiming to be a gamer, but matching few or none of their clique's criteria, they are instantly skeptical.

I think it is perfectly valid to see someone (of either gender) enter a social group, with little knowledge of said social group and with no desire to learn about the culture of said social group, and then conclude that the individual has become a part of said social group for some reason other than a love for the social group.

Let me finish of with some clarification. A beautiful woman or man, who shares interests with a gamer and is genuinely interested, is every gamer's dream come true. But, since many gamers have fallen prey the two stereotypes above, or at least believe them, they are extremely cautious with regards to beautiful people claiming to be gamers. Many gamers were marginalized for their interests during their formative years, and thus, they are weary to trust people who, at one time, would have bullied them.
 

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Booke55555 said:
Didn't it turn out that Ben Reilly was the real Peter Parker and the person who we always thought was Peter Parker was the clone? So I'm going with Peter Parker
For a brief time they thought that but it turned out to be a lie as part of a big conspiracy run by Norman Osborn (the Green Goblin) who had come back from being dead and was manipulating the whole Clone Saga as revenge against Peter Parker.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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I think a lot of the people here are missing the message of the comic.

SO WHAT IF THEY ARE FAKE

SO THE FUCK WHAT.

they are not going to suck your brains out or sacrifice you to the goddess of cosplay. Just enjoy looking at them and....

 

jmarquiso

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The Tall Nerd said:
im not asking states or anything
or like
who played cat woman in herpaderpa der
no no, just basics
who are they, what do they do, where they are from
basics
simple wiki
Why ask at all? What if their answer was "Julie Newmar"? or "That girl from the Princess Diaries?" or whatever? God forbid they accidentally say "Tara Strong" or "Arleen Sorkin".

Does it really matter? I honestly don't understand this mentality at all. My point is that - at the very least - it's a starting point for an interest. And instead of being welcomed, it becomes a gatekeeping system. While you may have a "simple wiki" question (something that anyone with a smartphone could pass), the next gatekeeper may have a harder question. I know some people will get annoyed when they here the Joker killed Bruce's parents, or a bunch of stray cats gave Catwoman weird cat powers. You chose a character with vastly different versions and interpretations even.

Try something else, like - "how did you make that?" or "where'd you get that costume?" to really engage them in an interest that's already obviously theirs. Because man, I'd want to know myself.
 

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ace_of_something said:
Fappy said:
Why bring up the clone saga!? It was such a dark time in comic book history :(
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Lest we forget.
Especially when you consider that those who ignore the Clone Saga probably wish they had One More Day to show the editor of Spider-Man why the Clone Saga should be remembered for their mistakes.