Fallout 3 Riddle me this

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

what do you expect? it's from Bethesda ^.^

P.s. would have been easier if you did say intro/theme music.

Theeeere we go!

It's the whole gamut of music, mostly because it's all the same. I get 'wild-west-y town music' not only in Megaton, where it was fitting, but in Rivet City and Paradise Falls and Tenpenny Tower...

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[SonicWaffle]

"...you think that black metal or even R&B fits very well in a 50s environment."
and? do you have better suggestions on what kind of music that it should feature?anything that goes out of the ambient music would make Fallout lose it's atmosphere
if you have any problems with ambient music then feel free to but the PC version and mod it

The ambient music didn't help the atmosphere at all. The background sounds did, like the wind whistling among the dead buildings. That used to give me chills down my spine. Whereas the background music doesn't really add anything. The radio music is an atmospheric addition, because hearing a tinny old-style tune echoing across the wastes is very good at giving the impression of emptiness and desolation.

 

[The Procrastinated End]

Well there seemed to be only one surviving instrument and that was locked in a vault until you go and get it. And I'm pretty sure after the nuclear war started no one cared about making more music.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

So American culture is locked in the 50's idea of Jazz and the American Dream, i get that. BUT did they just decide that after the music of the 30's-50's that they didn't need to make anymore? Did NO ONE want to make anymore of it? Were the people of the 2070's fine with listening to music from over one hundred years ago over and over again?

My understanding is they were still making music, but it was the same type of music they were making in the 1950s. Some the musicians that may have existed in the 1950s in our world may have been big in 2030 in theirs. For instance, the Ink Spots may have been born decades later and had they're hits then rather than before.

Just like everything else in the Fallout universe before the bombs culture stagnated while technology soured. The Ancient Egyptians probably had a simular style of music for over a hundred years too, like they're art style and architecture.

My theory for the Fallout universe is that it's a universe were Marty McFly never came back to the 1950s and never played Rock & Roll on stage at the disco, therefore it was never invented. And slowly these little changes lead to everyone blowing each other to shit.

 

[squid5580]

I remember their was only one instrument....................that one stradivarius violin.

You would have thought there would be more instruments in that vault.

 

[Lust]

I remember their was only one instrument....................that one stradivarius violin.

You would have thought there would be more instruments in that vault.

Or at least some instructions on how to make more.

 

[Angerwing]

Fallouts World and ours splits after World War II that's why.

Good to know. How does that answer the question?

OT: I'm of the opinion that the only music that survived was the classics, as they'd probably be in larger circulation if they stayed in that particular societal scene.

It's a complete different world and timeline, it's not exactly like ours. Maybe music didn't progress as quick as ours. I felt that would be self explanatory, but it's still just a theory.

Or maybe it's because it's a game.

What's self explanatory about stating a simple fact that anyone who has played a Fallout game would know? What you stated is the cause, but with absolutely no reason behind it. Everyone in this thread is aware that the two split. What the discussion is over is why the alternate history didn't make any more music.

Plot hole? Maybe. Budget restrictions? More likely. Explainable? Definitely. That's what is going on here. Don't act like a smart ass and treat everyone like a child, because you clearly don't know everything.

 

[Nayru]

So American culture is locked in the 50's idea of Jazz and the American Dream, i get that. BUT did they just decide that after the music of the 30's-50's that they didn't need to make anymore? Did NO ONE want to make anymore of it? Were the people of the 2070's fine with listening to music from over one hundred years ago over and over again?

With music like that, who needs to make more, am I right?

 

[zelda2fanboy]

The Fallout universe is a stylistic mash up. Why do they have green screen Apple 2 - styled computers when most other technology is far more advanced than what exists today? Why are cars nuclear powered and conveniently explode in spectacular mushroom clouds? Why is architecture reminiscent of the 1950s in some places, but not in others? There doesn't really need to be an exact explanation for what goes on in this alternate universe, you just need to accept it as a dramatically different place than our own. However, if I were to make a literal explanation instead of an artistic one, I'd say (like someone else on this board) that music and art probably developed at a different pace than our world, so that at the time of the war they were just starting to develop big band styled jazz.

As far as not creating any new stuff, half the population are locked down in vaults with no knowledge of these radio transmissions. Everyone else was overly concerned with basic survival than to find instruments and learn to play them. And if they did, they wouldn't be able to find a means to record them and get the recordings to a radio station. Three-Dog's studio was surrounded by supermutants, if I recall correctly.

 

[Danny Ocean]

So American culture is locked in the 50's idea of Jazz and the American Dream, i get that. BUT did they just decide that after the music of the 30's-50's that they didn't need to make anymore? Did NO ONE want to make anymore of it? Were the people of the 2070's fine with listening to music from over one hundred years ago over and over again?

Not only were there hardly any instruments remaining, but they have more important stuff to do. Like surviving.

 

[Life_Is_A_Mess]

Maybe the music advertised the war, so they didn't make new ones.

Besides, the songs played are actually recordings from a hundred years ago, this being much easier, since people are much more interested in staying alive than opening a "Wastelanders Only Concert Party"

 

[Pillypill]

There were bands in FO2 (a bar in one of the settlements), and i should think that there were more bands and music types before the war, but Bethesda managed to secure use of a few songs and that seemed to be enough. Otherwise they would have needed to produce more music on their own.

 

[BlindTom]

How exactly was interplay's writing pitiful? They never gave any inclination about it happening in the fifties. They got 1 song at the start of the game and even that was shown to be a tv ad (like a great many tv ads using old songs because there is no need to pay licencing fees).

I'm not saying that the writing was pitiful, I'm telling the guy that it was Interplay's 'pitiful' writers, not Bethesda's.

You sound like you are implying that Interplay are behind fallout 3's writing. Fallout 3 is responsible for the misonception that the apocalypse happened in the fifties.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

I would say that most of the "modern" music was kept on tapes or digital and with an EMP blast by a nuke, the recordings would be useless so the only things that would be left would be what was on hardcopy (ie: records, things you may or may not have heard of). Thus most modern music would be destroyed or warped beyond repair.
And I dunno how well most records would survive radiation since I haven't attempted that experiment for good reason...

 

[Outlaw Torn]

I remember their was only one instrument....................that one stradivarius violin.

You can find a special instrument, don't know if it was a violin or a chello anymore but if you find it....

Spoiler

And bring it to an old lady somewhere near fault 101 (as far as I recall), you will unlock another radio station.

That is the same violin as the one they mentioned, it's Agatha's Stradivarius Soil.

 

[Harbinger_]

Its set in an alternate reality. End of story

 

[Darzen]

Think about it,old 50s records were worth alot of money and rare so people locked them away in places where they couldn't be damaged. when the Nuclear Bombs came down vinyl record are probably all that survived because they were locked away while Cd's,Cassette Tapes,the internet, and most instruments were destroyed by either the Initial blast or the Nuclear Fallout.

 

[SeanTheSheep]

Well the Fallout universe divides around WWII-ish, after which I would assume culture went in a different direction, and things developed differently, so they arrived in what we would know as 50's culture in the 2070's.

Another possible reason is that culture kind of stalled in the 50's while scientific advancements were made, such as Laser and plasma rifles, robots (Some of which have the ability to hover a foot-ish in the air), fully functioning AI systems that talk, power armor, shelters from nuclear blasts, a gigantic robot with laser eyes [http://melancholy-protection.net/lolwut/gaby_libertyprime3.jpg] and various other things which we take for granted in the post-nuclear-holocaust world the games take place in

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

You sound like you are implying that Interplay are behind fallout 3's writing. Fallout 3 is responsible for the misonception that the apocalypse happened in the fifties.

It is? I guess it's also responsible for the misconception that there weren't two other Fallout games that occured in the same universe.

Fallout 1 should be responsible for the 'misconception', not Fallout 3. What with the "BUY WAR BONDS" on the TV intro while Maybe is playing in the background and all.

 

[CheckD3]

Not only is it hard to find an instrument in playable condition, think also that you need people who can play the instruments well enough, very few musicians live in Fallout times

But question, what's wrong with the old jazz? Nothing is more awesome for me than a nice stroll through the wasteland with some good old jazz and I know this is off topic but I swear I just saw a ninja outside! But anywho, the calm relaxing jazz is ideal because it's freedom, what the wastelanders want.