Fox needs to loose a lot of money for that to happen. But they've covered their basses for just in case that happens. It can't make money off of the ads so anyone buying that Denny's Thing burger is helping Fox. It needs to be last in the box office. I'm hoping the limited release DBZ movie is number one just to shame Fox forever.Rikun said:So at this point is it possible for this movie to do so poorly that Marvel can take it back, or is Fox able to just shit out a movie every ten years with no consequence?
Rikun said:So at this point is it possible for this movie to do so poorly that Marvel can take it back, or is Fox able to just shit out a movie every ten years with no consequence?
medv4380 said:Fox needs to loose a lot of money for that to happen. But they've covered their basses for just in case that happens. It can't make money off of the ads so anyone buying that Denny's Thing burger is helping Fox. It needs to be last in the box office. I'm hoping the limited release DBZ movie is number one just to shame Fox forever.
However, baring a flop that poisons any Fox superhero movie to ever come out we have a problem.
Fox did this before with X3, but it just didn't' flop hard enough.
Then they did First Class and many people forgot how bad things can get.
Now Fantastic Four is even worse.
But Deadpool looks like it's in the perfect direction. Honest to the comics.
But do we really want Deadpool in every Fox movie trying to drag in the audience like with Wolverine?
There is such a thing as Super Hero fatigue and yes we'd still get GotG and Antman because adding new actors into the franchise is pretty cheap compared to having Ironman etc (Why we had Falcon in Antman rather than any of the other Avengers). Disney is a big company they can work out what to do with the characters (Plus the fact that all F4 movies have been pretty bad means they'd likely take a break anyhow)P-89 Scorpion said:medv4380 said:Fox needs to loose a lot of money for that to happen. But they've covered their basses for just in case that happens. It can't make money off of the ads so anyone buying that Denny's Thing burger is helping Fox. It needs to be last in the box office. I'm hoping the limited release DBZ movie is number one just to shame Fox forever.
However, baring a flop that poisons any Fox superhero movie to ever come out we have a problem.
Fox did this before with X3, but it just didn't' flop hard enough.
Then they did First Class and many people forgot how bad things can get.
Now Fantastic Four is even worse.
But Deadpool looks like it's in the perfect direction. Honest to the comics.
But do we really want Deadpool in every Fox movie trying to drag in the audience like with Wolverine?
I don't get this whole we want Disney to be the only one to make Marvel films because if Disney did do you think with at most 2-3 films a year we would ever have had a GotG or Antman film? let alone Dr Strange, Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Inhumans?
Yes because that would be fun and exciting where as this is supposed to be "DARK and GRITTY" meaning no fun at all.hittite said:What is it with the Fantastic Four that makes them just sit around and do nothing with their powers in their movies? Is it really that hard to make them go rescue people from a fire or stop a bank robbery or something?
You don't get it because you think of it as Disney making them, and not Marvel who still has a large amount of control compared to most aquired properties.P-89 Scorpion said:medv4380 said:Fox needs to loose a lot of money for that to happen. But they've covered their basses for just in case that happens. It can't make money off of the ads so anyone buying that Denny's Thing burger is helping Fox. It needs to be last in the box office. I'm hoping the limited release DBZ movie is number one just to shame Fox forever.
However, baring a flop that poisons any Fox superhero movie to ever come out we have a problem.
Fox did this before with X3, but it just didn't' flop hard enough.
Then they did First Class and many people forgot how bad things can get.
Now Fantastic Four is even worse.
But Deadpool looks like it's in the perfect direction. Honest to the comics.
But do we really want Deadpool in every Fox movie trying to drag in the audience like with Wolverine?
I don't get this whole we want Disney to be the only one to make Marvel films because if Disney did do you think with at most 2-3 films a year we would ever have had a GotG or Antman film? let alone Dr Strange, Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Inhumans?
Marvel is owned by Disney, if Disney tells Marvel to do something they do it (like cancel the FF book and remove the X-men from nearly all merchandise so as not to advertise properties Fox owns the film rights too).medv4380 said:You don't get it because you think of it as Disney making them, and not Marvel who still has a large amount of control compared to most aquired properties.
So do you want
A) Fox, an entity that only cares about the property as a Marketing Gimmik
or
B) Marvel, an entity that worked hard to create, and establish the property, and who's existence hinges on the property doing well.
Such a hard choice. What's more baffling is how people like you keep Fox going by putting up with their poor quality. They'd do better if they worked with movies they actually had to put in effort to create their franchise in the first place.
It's simple. Chronicle was his baby, and he cared about it. However, he didn't give two rats about Fantastic Four. Talent isn't worth much without passion.Caramel Frappe said:. .. Wait, no ... no .... NO ....
How? How did someone who made an amazing movie like Chronicle screw up a movie involving the Fantastic Four to this extent?!! You would think he'd take this project seriously, or make the best of it. I heard rumors of him coming in drunk off his hide, or s*** faced though so ... maybe Fox forced him into this.
Wow what a disappointment. What a disaster of a film where nearly every critic, reviewer, fan ... everyone I know is not happy with this film. It upsets me, to know they really dropped the ball on this film mainly because they don't want to give Marvel back these unique superheroes. It's petty stuff, like ... embarrassing so to say. Shame on you Fox for hogging this franchise and making it go downhill rather then respecting these characters.
Marvels blood feud with Fox goes back to long before Disney ever bought Marvel, and their writing XMen and FF out goes back to when they did Iron Man. Something about a lawsuit which was more of Fox throwing a tantrum because Marvel wasn't exclusively marketing XMen related mutant properties. XMen doesn't look much like it did in its height in the 90's, but it has little to do with Disney. It might seem to someone unfamiliar with comics, but the decent of Cyclops into a villain was planned out in the 90's with the references to the Summers Rebellion.P-89 Scorpion said:Marvel is owned by Disney, if Disney tells Marvel to do something they do it (like cancel the FF book and remove the X-men from nearly all merchandise so as not to advertise properties Fox owns the film rights too).medv4380 said:You don't get it because you think of it as Disney making them, and not Marvel who still has a large amount of control compared to most aquired properties.
So do you want
A) Fox, an entity that only cares about the property as a Marketing Gimmik
or
B) Marvel, an entity that worked hard to create, and establish the property, and who's existence hinges on the property doing well.
Such a hard choice. What's more baffling is how people like you keep Fox going by putting up with their poor quality. They'd do better if they worked with movies they actually had to put in effort to create their franchise in the first place.
Disney and the current head of Marvel only see the Marvel films as nothing but a marketing gimmick that's why so much advertising for future films is packed into them regardless of the films current director's wishes.
That would be awesome and hilarious. And honestly, it could happen. I have no idea how many people have seen this movie, but when I saw Resurrection F Tuesday, the theater was packed. It would be difficult for DBZ to completely wreck this movie, but not impossible if it does really poorly.medv4380 said:Fox needs to loose a lot of money for that to happen. But they've covered their basses for just in case that happens. It can't make money off of the ads so anyone buying that Denny's Thing burger is helping Fox. It needs to be last in the box office. I'm hoping the limited release DBZ movie is number one just to shame Fox forever.Rikun said:So at this point is it possible for this movie to do so poorly that Marvel can take it back, or is Fox able to just shit out a movie every ten years with no consequence?
Actually how does Fox have the rights to Deadpool? I thought they only had Fantastic Four and X-Men. Is it just because Deadpool is semi related to Wolverine?medv4380 said:However, baring a flop that poisons any Fox superhero movie to ever come out we have a problem.
Fox did this before with X3, but it just didn't' flop hard enough.
Then they did First Class and many people forgot how bad things can get.
Now Fantastic Four is even worse.
But Deadpool looks like it's in the perfect direction. Honest to the comics.
But do we really want Deadpool in every Fox movie trying to drag in the audience like with Wolverine?
Quality > QuantityP-89 Scorpion said:I don't get this whole we want Disney to be the only one to make Marvel films because if Disney did do you think with at most 2-3 films a year we would ever have had a GotG or Antman film? let alone Dr Strange, Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Inhumans?