Far Cry 3, is a better RPG than Skyrim.

[Soopy]

Okay, big claim. But I do genuinely believe it. I've played Skyrim extensively (few hundred hours) and I consider myself to be a fairly big fan of the TES series.

The reasons I say that Far Cry 3 is a better RPG than Skyrim;

1; The Combat is FAR better.
2; The crafting system functions much nicer and doesn't break the game.
3; The graphical fidelity and aesthetic choices are far and away better.
4; The characters are far and a way better. The way they interact with the player character, the way they are scripted and the way the story is imparted is just leagues ahead of what Skyrim provides.
5; The story - thus far - is way better. It's pacing, its delivery and its content is just better. Skyrim had allot of potential, it had a great pretense and idea, it just fell on its face from a great height with its delivery.


Obviously, this is all pretty much subjective opinion. But it's what I genuinely think, I'm not even sure that Far Cry 3 is considered an RPG, but based on the properties of what both games offer and the fact that Skyrim IS considered an RPG, I feel that the comparison is somewhat valid.

What do you think?

 

[DoPo]

What do you think?

I think that I learned new stuff now - to be an RPG a game needs to look nice. And to have crafting. And the combat must be good.

Spoiler: So, if a game doesn't look as nice and I don't really like the combat, it's less of an RPG.

So, if a game doesn't look as nice and I don't really like the combat, it's less of an RPG.

 

[Soopy]

That's not really what I was getting at.

The two games share most functions, they both have a leveling system of sorts as well as many other systems.

 

[Cabisco]

While I think Skyrim is the better RPG I found myself having more fun on Far Cry 3, everything seemed a little more random and less like it was supposed to happen. Just aimlessly walking around Far Cry felt more like an adventure because of the sheer random nature of it, on Skyrim I kinda knew I was looking for quests to do that had been done a thousand times before by everyone else.

I think really I just didn't like Skyrim all that much :/

 

[Daystar Clarion]

You gotta stop using the word RPG, OP.

It doesn't mean what you think it means.

Far Cry 3 is a great game, but it ain't an RPG.

 

[piinyouri]

This board is just really really silly sometimes.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Far Cry 3 is not an RPG. But whatever.

1; The Combat is FAR better.
2; The crafting system functions much nicer and doesn't break the game.
3; The graphical fidelity and aesthetic choices are far and away better.
4; The characters are far and a way better. The way they interact with the player character, the way they are scripted and the way the story is imparted is just leagues ahead of what Skyrim provides.
5; The story - thus far - is way better. It's pacing, its delivery and its content is just better. Skyrim had allot of potential, it had a great pretense and idea, it just fell on its face from a great height with its delivery.

1. Doesn't compare. One's a shooter, the other is melee focused. Also Skyrim has magic.
2. It isn't. Crafting is pretty shallow.
3. Graphics are better, but aesthetics are pretty bland. It's just a generic tropical island. It looks beautiful, but there's nothing remarkable about it. Especially not compared to some of the locations in Skyrim.
4. The only character worth mentioning in Far Cry 3 is Vaas. And yes, he's awesome, but so are my Skyrim companions. Not to mention our favorite dragon. You can actually develop a connection with characters in Skyrim. At least that's how I feel. You can't achieve that in Far Cry 3 because it's not an RPG.
5. Can't agree here either. While Skyrim doesn't have a good plot, compared to Far Cry 3 it's a masterpiece. But the thing is, story in Skyrim isn't just the main quest about Alduin. It's all around you. Every piece of lore, the characters, the environment, the quests for various guilds etc. The entire experience is a story. BECAUSE SKYRIM IS AN RPG. Far Cry 3 is just another first person shooter. A pretty good one, but it's not an RPG.

 

[hazabaza1]

You can actually develop a connection with characters in Skyrim.

What.
What is this.
I don't... I... wuh? You're kidding right?

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

You can actually develop a connection with characters in Skyrim.

What.
What is this.
I don't... I... wuh? You're kidding right?

And the next sentence was

At least that's how I feel.

When you spend a 100 hours with one of your companions, you don't want to see them die. My favorite is Serana. After Dawnguard was released I took her everywhere.

 

[Soopy]

You can actually develop a connection with characters in Skyrim.

What.
What is this.
I don't... I... wuh? You're kidding right?

Yeah, that blew me away too.

Someone mentioned that the crafting in FC3 isn't crafting and that it's shallow. This is different to the Skyrim system how?

What makes FC3 less an RPG than Skyrim? Honest question.

 

[hazabaza1]

You can actually develop a connection with characters in Skyrim.

What.
What is this.
I don't... I... wuh? You're kidding right?

And the next sentence was

At least that's how I feel.

When you spend a 100 hours with one of your companions, you don't want to see them die. My favorite is Serana. After Dawnguard was released I took her everywhere.

And I feel differently. This is how opinions work. Mind explaining yours to me? Because I can't understand it in the slightest.

Even bringing them along for a long time they're basically just fighting backpacks with the occasional different line.
While I do like Skyrim the characters all look so similar and the armour is generally so bland and replaceable that companions are pretty much expendable.

 

[Caiphus]

Skyrim has dragons and orcs.
Does Far Cry 3 have dragons and orcs?

There you go.

 

[Soopy]

Skyrim has dragons and orcs.
Does Far Cry 3 have dragons and orcs?

There you go.

So fallout isn't an RPG?

By this logic, you cannot have an RPG without a fantasy setting.

 

[Caiphus]

Skyrim has dragons and orcs.
Does Far Cry 3 have dragons and orcs?

There you go.

So fallout isn't an RPG?

By this logic, you cannot have an RPG without a fantasy setting.

If you took my super serious post to its logical conclusion then yes, fallout is not an rpg.

We should take this to the Better Business Bureau right away, you and me.

 

[Soopy]

Skyrim has dragons and orcs.
Does Far Cry 3 have dragons and orcs?

There you go.

So fallout isn't an RPG?

By this logic, you cannot have an RPG without a fantasy setting.

If you took my super serious post to its logical conclusion then yes, fallout is not an rpg.

We should take this to the Better Business Bureau right away, you and me.

It's kinda hard to tell who's being sarcastic and who's not on these forums.

 

[Offworlder_v1legacy]

In an RPG sense Skyrim is better technically.

In FC3 you can play the game quite comfortably without taking any of the upgrades. Sure they make the game much easier but they're not central to the gameplay (unless you want a bitchin' tattoo). There were many times when I was playing when I had a whole bunch of skill points just sitting there that I hadn't spent, but it didn't make any difference to the difficulty. Skyrim on the other hand the skills are central to advancing in the game and in some cases the plot, you need them if you want to progress, it's a technical thing. FC3 relies more on the hunting and crafting element rather than the actual skills you choose.

Also, on the defining side of things, FC3 is an action game with RPG elements, Skyrim is an RPG with action elements.

Both great games, but if you put them in an RPG-off, Skyrim would take the cake.

 

[Soopy]

In an RPG sense Skyrim is better technically.

In FC3 you can play the game quite comfortably without taking any of the upgrades. Sure they make the game much easier but they're not central to the gameplay (unless you want a bitchin' tattoo). There were many times when I was playing when I had a whole bunch of skill points just sitting there that I hadn't spent, but it didn't make any difference to the difficulty. Skyrim on the other hand the skills are central to advancing in the game and in some cases the plot, you need them if you want to progress, it's a technical thing. FC3 relies more on the hunting and crafting element rather than the actual skills you choose.

Also, on the defining side of things, FC3 is an action game with RPG elements, Skyrim is an RPG with action elements.

Both great games, but if you put them in an RPG-off, Skyrim would take the cake.

That's a fair conclusion. I guess as I was playing FC3 it occured to me just how much alike the two were. Then it occured to me that FC3 PLAYS a fair bit better than what Skyrim does. I just feel more engaged with it, rather than like I am completing a chore.

 

[Offworlder_v1legacy]

In an RPG sense Skyrim is better technically.

In FC3 you can play the game quite comfortably without taking any of the upgrades. Sure they make the game much easier but they're not central to the gameplay (unless you want a bitchin' tattoo). There were many times when I was playing when I had a whole bunch of skill points just sitting there that I hadn't spent, but it didn't make any difference to the difficulty. Skyrim on the other hand the skills are central to advancing in the game and in some cases the plot, you need them if you want to progress, it's a technical thing. FC3 relies more on the hunting and crafting element rather than the actual skills you choose.

Also, on the defining side of things, FC3 is an action game with RPG elements, Skyrim is an RPG with action elements.

Both great games, but if you put them in an RPG-off, Skyrim would take the cake.

That's a fair conclusion. I guess as I was playing FC3 it occured to me just how much alike the two were. Then it occured to me that FC3 PLAYS a fair bit better than what Skyrim does. I just feel more engaged with it, rather than like I am completing a chore.

FC3 does play better, like I said, it's an action game at heart. And that grindyness of Skyrim makes it even more like an RPG, grinding for levels and such.

But each to their own, I'm not trying to force something on you, follow your heart my brother.

Captcha: rolling stone

Well if you insist:

Spoiler

 

[Soopy]

Okay, big claim. But I do genuinely believe it. I've played Skyrim extensively (few hundred hours) and I consider myself to be a fairly big fan of the TES series.

The reasons I say that Far Cry 3 is a better RPG than Skyrim;

1; The Combat is FAR better.
2; The crafting system functions much nicer and doesn't break the game.
3; The graphical fidelity and aesthetic choices are far and away better.
4; The characters are far and a way better. The way they interact with the player character, the way they are scripted and the way the story is imparted is just leagues ahead of what Skyrim provides.
5; The story - thus far - is way better. It's pacing, its delivery and its content is just better. Skyrim had allot of potential, it had a great pretense and idea, it just fell on its face from a great height with its delivery.


Obviously, this is all pretty much subjective opinion. But it's what I genuinely think, I'm not even sure that Far Cry 3 is considered an RPG, but based on the properties of what both games offer and the fact that Skyrim IS considered an RPG, I feel that the comparison is somewhat valid.

What do you think?

I think what you're actually saying is that Far Cry 3 feels more absorbing and immersive than Skyrim, as opposed to "Far Cry 3 is a better RPG than Skyrim"?

I've yet to play Far Cry 3, but being as I found Skyrim about as absorbing and immersive as chewing an old shoe I don't find it hard to believe your claim at all.

In fact I'd quite like to hear how close to an RPG Far Cry 3 is and why?

Yes, the title is intentionally inflammatory in that sense. Perhaps to highlight how poor an RPG Skyrim is, in my opinion.
As a GAME, I tend to think that FC3 is simply better. It's comparible to Skyrim on many fronts and in my opinion at least superior in most all comparable facets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvMQAkoue6w

This sums up allot of my sentiments.

 

[Festus Moonbear]

The difference for me is that Skyrim actually knows what it is, while Far Cry 3 just wants to be everyone's best friend. I can almost see the FC3 developers sitting round a table saying, 'So people like Skyrim, right? So lets put in some levelling, dungeons, magical objects (compass) and flowers to make magic potions that let you see through walls and resist fire. And people like Red Dead Redemption and GTA, right? So let's put in some poker, racing, hunting and skinning animals and lots of random encounters, and people saying 'fuck.' And people like Call of Duty and Medal of Honour, right? So let's put in some generic gunplay and big colourful signs on top of all the objectives and enemies' heads, and hold the player's hand as much as we can. Oh, and a couple of people liked FC2, I suppose, so best put some fire in. Tada!'

The whole time I'm playing FC3 I can hear the game shrieking at me, 'Like me, like me, like me!' And I do like it, I guess, but all in all I prefer a game that knows what it is and invites you in if you're interested - like Skyrim. I only started Skyrim a couple of weeks ago but it has basically cast its shadow over every other game I play because of how immersive it is. Yeah there's some grinding, but that's kind of the point of an RPG and if it feels like a chore you probably just don't like RPGs. I spent six hours last night doing nothing but working on my house and making fittings for it (Hearthfire DLC). A chore to be sure, but a hugely enjoyable one. Skyrim is a game where I never feel rushed, while in FC3 I feel like it just wants me to barrel ahead to the next objective - it even feels the need to give me permission from time to time to 'explore the island and come when you're ready', something which should be a given in a sandbox game and not need pointing out. That looks like something they added after playtesting to me, because people weren't feeling the need to spend any more time than necessary free roaming. Skyrim is the opposite - I never feel pressured to go off on an adventure, but do so when the moment seizes me. Again, just like an RPG.

The case could be made that FC3 is a better game, although that's subjective of course and I certainly prefer Skyrim. But FC3 a better RPG? Not if the term 'RPG' means anything.