Far Right Boogaloo Bois from Texas Are Who Set Fire to Police Precinct During George Floyd Protest in Minneapolis and Open Fired on Police
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Bro I don’t have to respect anyone I don’t want to and I genuinely do not care if I get banned from this site.
On that subject, mods locking the thread and punishing everyone instead of punishing the
No, I did not know that.
Still, I am of the opinion that punishing everyone by way of locking the thread for the actions of a few is not good.
Your brave opposition to poster collective punishment has been noted Houseman.
I've got like a 2.6K word-count document ready and waiting whenever the time comes to discuss the rules, as Nick promised (last he said in June/July that it was on his todo list)
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Usually Hopi were referred to as anarcho communism, but even then I do not think that accurately describes it. No one in society was above another. There was no "idea" of class separation. There was no " leader", everyone's voice was equal and all was shared and everyone took care of each other. As described from historical texts, when they gave gifts to the "Hopi delegation" the delegation did not keep it for themselves, they gave it to everyone else to be shared equally. "Keeping things just for oneself" never even enters the thought process in our culture. We are taught from birth, that we take care of everyone and all things and put all else before self so much of the problems associated with Capitalism, Communism, socialism ect are contradictory to core cultural beliefs.
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Then you can add Sparticists to the list of names not used by Antifa. Why is the idea that names have historical meaning so ignorable to you?
Assuming you and your family attempted to live up to these ideals as much as possible, from the tales you've told me, that didn't work out too great for y'all. You still separated into groups and prioritized the well-being of your group over the rest of the family, leaving them on their own.
I am not criticizing you or your family because of this. The criticism against communism I always hear is that it goes against human nature. Your example may be evidence of this.
Nice how you just glided over the part where SPD had KPD murdered.
And let’s talk about names, particularly Bolshevik. Because, of course, we all do realize that it wasn’t just the KDP that got the name of Bolshevik. It was the SDP as well. It was the entire German left. So for all the meaning of mere names, regardless of what one you so happen to choose for whatever aesthetic purposes you may have, the name you are branded with is the only one of any consequence. The lesson of the German interwar should not be “Antifa is the name of the other bad guys” but that we will either fight together or die separately. There is no other choice. That was the mistake of the German socialists, the German liberals, the German Jews, etc. They all thought they had a choice in the matter of who they would die with and rejected death beside some other legion of degenerate, not understanding that they were all the same in the eyes of their murderers. That mistake was costly.
What are you even going on about? The US government turned over control of the reservations to Christian religious extremists and mafia and used the force of the federal government to kidnap children from their homes and put them in religious extremist abuse indoctrination schools where my family along with many others were raped, abused beaten and murdered against the will of the people until John McCain helped stop it. What happened there has ZERO to do with "Their system not turning out well" and everything to do with the US government violating their treaties with horrific human rights violations. In addition to the religious abuse schools, the Feds refused to allow the tribes to prosecute non tribal members for their crimes, so gangs of white men would come through the reservation and rape, abuse and murder people and get away with it because the feds just simply chose not to respond at all.
I have heard you make other strange comments about the reservations in the US, it seems like you honestly have no clue what has been happening there or the history of why these things are the way they are now. The US has been violating it's own laws and treaties in an effort to force assimilate the people for generations now. Saying something stupid about the tribes like " your example may be evidence of this" just makes that sound even more ridiculous. My family left the reservation because we were being violently abused at the religious extremists indoctrination school so much so that multiple of my family members killed themselves because that seemed like the better alternative than to continue to suffer the abuse.
Of course we couldn't retain our traditional culture once we moved off the reservation because we were forced to assimilate into American society, you actually become something " in between". I wrote a good deal on the escapist on that in the past, as being the only one of your ethnicity no matter where you go, you don't feel like you quite fit in. I no longer fit in to my tribes traditional culture and I don't fit in with US culture. It is more like a level of " in between" wherever I am now because neither accurately describes in a way that other's would understand. If I had retained my tribes Traditional culture, I wouldn't be on the internet at all right now.
So you and your family gave up these ideals you mentioned in post #148?
These ideals:
"Keeping things just for oneself" never even enters the thought process in our culture. We are taught from birth, that we take care of everyone and all things and put all else before self"
You gave up these ideals, correct?
I'm not talking about "the tribes". I'm not talking about reservations. I said "you and your family".
Of course you couldn't still live the way we did on the reservation. Traditionally, the entire community did everything together. The women went from home to home in the evening making sure everyone was fed and were doing okay. There was no tribe when we left to be able to do that with. I mean in our household, I never had anything that was " only mine". Everything was shared growing up, even our clothes. When we worked on the farm, everyone helped one another. We still do when they need help with harvest and what not, even when we don't live there. One of the things I remember most when I visited friends homes after leaving the reservation was how it was weird how the kids had their own toys and belongings that were just one person's in the house and didn't belong to everyone. Like when my friend yelled at her sister to stop taking her doll and her hairbrush, that was so alien to me because objects were never treated like that in our house. Like we were given birthday presents and such, but after we received them everyone could play with them too, it wasn't just mine. I shared a room with my sisters, we share clothes, toys, hairbrushes, makeup everything. If that was what you meant then yes, we did carry that part of our culture with us, but we couldn't very well think all the neighbors were just going to show up on their own when it was time to pick the peaches or the corn! XD
When we left the farm, of course we have to have our own possessions as we are " all the tribe" we have at that point, and other people from other cultures do not live the same way or have the same expectations. When I had roommates, we shared stuff of course, but I am sure they wouldn't appreciate me just treating everything of theirs as my own. I honestly don't mind roommates treating my stuff as their own as long as they put it back so I can find it when they are done. It only is annoying if I can't find it when I need it. My best friend and I have shared clothes, shoes, curling irons, makeup.. you name it for like forever now. She is even closer to me than my own sisters. We still have keys to each other's houses and can come and go as we please when we want to. If she just showed up and borrowed something of mine while I was out and left me a note that she did, I would be fine with it. You just could not survive in this world sharing everything if everyone else was not doing the same, it only works when everyone is doing it. That was why it works on the reservation, but not in cultures who do not do the same. It works wonderfully when actually implemented as a core part of the society itself.
For me, when I talk about my family, my family is all of my tribe I have left after leaving the reservation so they are "one in the same" in my mind. I have never seen another Hopi anywhere since I left the reservation and the immediate area near the reservation that was not a family member because there are so few of us left in this world. It would be like being white, but never seeing another white person anywhere else in the world no matter where you travel because they just don't exist. That is why I always relate " my family" to my tribe, because they are all I have as an active part of my life outside the reservation. I mentally associate them to be all the tribe I have left now for the most part.
I don't think you're understanding the point I'm making.
In the other topic, you said:
You object to taking in more family members, people from your culture, your tribe, due to self-interest for you and yours (the family you did decide to take in). This mirrors the criticism of communism that it will break down because it is opposed to human nature. Your ideals of sharing everything were pushed to the background in favor of self-interest, were they not?
First, my sisters no longer live with me, I helped them get set up before I sold my home. I had to sell my home to make sure my parents could keep their farm. I live in an apartment now and legally cannot have more people move in with me in the first place. I can't even let my brother sleep on my couch for more than 3 days in a row by the terms of my lease. I am also not even the only person here who has a say in this. The man flesh who lives with me has an equal say as well and he is not from my culture. The biggest issue however is that my brother's all smoke. Even having smoke on their clothes triggers an asthma attack and I cannot breathe. Asthma attacks due to my present condition are extremely dangerous. It isn't the same as someone who just has Asthma to deal with. I have gone unconscious 6 times already from lack of oxygen and had to be resuscitated. I always have asthma attacks on holidays when they come and visit now and due the Pandemic, we are not having them over at all this year. I mentioned smoking when I brought up my brothers for good reason. Being around smokers at all is life threatening to me. Not wanting to die =\= not wanting to share objects with one another. Besides, I saved the farm, they can go live there with my mom and work on the farm if they are willing to put up with her and she doesn't chase them off again. She does not allow drugs or alcohol on the premises and will make them do chores from before the sun rises until after the sun sets. That is why one of my brothers is homeless right now instead of dealing with my Mom.
I'm sorry but all this drivel about being "opposed to human nature" is just garbage. None of that is remotely true. It is that everything that happens isn't so black and white and other factors are usually involved.
That is all irrelevant, because we were not discussing your situation now, we were discussing your situation then.
Back then, you did not live by communist ideals, and lived in favor of self-interest, is that true?
So then they are not living by communist ideals and live in favor of self-interest, because otherwise, they would not smoke because it would be in your best interest, should they ever be around you.
Actually, that's a good, possibly better microcosm of the whole "communism vs human nature" thing right there. Ignore everything else above. Not smoking is better for the entire group, as smoking leads to increased health issues and therefore puts more strain on the hospitals or their equivalent, as well as harms certain individuals like you. Smoking itself is antithetical to your type of communism which is: "that we take care of everyone and all things and put all else before self". Smoking puts the self above all others. And yet, your culture smokes. Why? Human nature?
Should a good communist smoke?
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