Favourite game with a crummy sequel

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Splinter Cell: Conviction. It was hardly a stealth game any more at all, it was just not very good. I much preferred the old look it had, with the crowd stealth similar to AC.
I was very reticent at first about Conviction. I actually yelled at my TV the first time I played the demo. It sure as hell isn't the Splinter Cell I was expecting, but I for one actually really enjoyed the game after I let go of my prejudices and just played the demo as a new game rather than a Splinter Cell sequel.

I completely disagree with your statement about preferring the crowd stealth mechanics originally planned. Implementing that would have made it even more different from classic Splinter Cell than it was in the final product.

To each his own I suppose. It's just so rare I see anyone else even talking about Conviction that I felt compelled to respond.
 

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I'm sure a ton of people have said Bioshock.

Sure, the gameplay got some much-needed upgrades, but the narrative was just rubbish.
And the narrative was the best thing about the series to begin with.
 

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Chrono Trigger -> Chrono Cross. Now before anyone jumps down my throat, I want to clarify that I by no means think that Chrono Cross is a bad game, in fact I thoroughly enjoyed it. It had awesome music, great gameplay and a pretty interesting twist partway though which I won't spoil. Why I'm naming it as a crummy sequel is because I don't care for the direction they went with the story. I cannot accept the fact that Prince Crono (yeah, he married Marle that makes him a prince) and Co. could defeat Lavos
only to fall to that Lynx asshole. And there's no way Guardia could fall with Prince Crono (yeah I'm going to continue to call him 'Prince Crono' so shut up) and Co. to protect it.
I'm not going to be like one of those overzealous idiot fans and declare it non-canon or anything as if I actually have any say in the matter, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
 
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Command & Conquer 3 - Great game. Loved it.

Command & Conquer 4 - Kill it with fire.

That's really the only one that comes to mind right now.
 

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Bioshock. The sequel completely missed the point of the original and missed out on the atmosphere, storytelling, characterisation and exploration.

Half-Life. The sequel had such a good beginning. I loved the section where you're running through a building away from the combine. It could have been so good if it hadn't followed that up with more running.....then a crappy vehicle section.....then that bloody dreadful Ravenholm level......then another shit vehicle level. That's as far as I got. Maybe it gets good after that although I honestly couldn't care. If I have to trail through 5 hours of bad driving controls and unbearably archaic combat to get to the good bit then the game has already failed.
 

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final fantasy tactics on the game boy advance and the DS...*sniff* they killed it... :(
 

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Deus Ex -> Deus Ex: Invisible War.
Having said that, I'm currently playing DX:IW because I picked it up in a bundle on Steam.

Have to agree with the Bioshock -> 2.

I can't really think of anything people haven't already said.

Edit: People point to Fallout 3 as a poor sequel to Fallout 1/2 and I agree. But I have no idea what the people calling New Vegas a poor sequel to Fallout 3 are even talking about. Did we play the same two games? Fallout 3's world was pretty bland. New Vegas was smaller, but it had more of the character and humor I had been hoping for from Fallout 3.
 

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run_forrest_run said:
Half-Life. The sequel had such a good beginning. I loved the section where you're running through a building away from the combine. It could have been so good if it hadn't followed that up with more running.....then a crappy vehicle section.....then that bloody dreadful Ravenholm level......then another shit vehicle level. That's as far as I got. Maybe it gets good after that although I honestly couldn't care. If I have to trail through 5 hours of bad driving controls and unbearably archaic combat to get to the good bit then the game has already failed.
You didn't like killing zombies with thrown saw blades and gas cylinders? Ravenholm is one of my favorite parts of HL2.
 

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Paracite Eve. The first one was great the second one was awful. Not storywise but the controles made that game impossible for me to play. Looking forward to the third one though. Hopefully the controls won't suck on that one.
 

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psivamp said:
run_forrest_run said:
Half-Life. The sequel had such a good beginning. I loved the section where you're running through a building away from the combine. It could have been so good if it hadn't followed that up with more running.....then a crappy vehicle section.....then that bloody dreadful Ravenholm level......then another shit vehicle level. That's as far as I got. Maybe it gets good after that although I honestly couldn't care. If I have to trail through 5 hours of bad driving controls and unbearably archaic combat to get to the good bit then the game has already failed.
You didn't like killing zombies with thrown saw blades and gas cylinders? Ravenholm is one of my favorite parts of HL2.
That gravity gun was a novelty. I got bored of it after the game made me play a game of bloody catch with it.
 

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JBGigas said:
Bioshock 2, It's the only fps-game where I have fell asleep.
There was one bit towards the end where you have to kill 2 big sisters and I turned it off for about a week. Came back and played it through just to get an even worse ending than the bad ending of the original Bioshock.
 

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tkmedic said:
I just have to say it.
KotOR I, rocked, KotOR II.... much dissapoint
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Fable. Fable (tlc) was an amazong game, fable 2 was just fucking terrible and fable 3 was an abomination that actually made fable 2 look good. There should be no fables after fable tlc.
AW! no way... double ninja'd! xD

OT: Dungeon Siege to Dungeon Siege 2 plus its expansion...

WHY DID YOU DO THAT! dungeon siege was a AWESOME hack&slash party RPG,everything about it was perfect,music graphics (for its time),gameplay all 100% on the money spot on awesome!

...then number 2 comes along,not only do they dumb it down.they add a poorly implemented talent tree system,stupid forgettable characters/party members,and make part of the game only accessible IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC CHARACTER THAT YOU PROBABLY DUMPED BACK AT THE BLOODY START!
why would you DO THAT!?!? the dungeon siege series was supposed to be about dungeon crawling and exploring the areas you were in. they cant even get that right seeing as you spend barely and time DUNGEON CRAWLING which is the POINT of the GAME! the story isnt even that interesting,oh NOW im some sort of descendant from this group or something...there is the sword and shield and they are so powerful they made the word explode if the tap each other...now you got to stop someone from making them explode...again...yay? how is this a good story again,when its not even executed properly? and now 3 is coming out...have you seen the "trailer" its the same stupid story line about the useless sword and board,and all they show is a tree...a bloody tree,not even some action in there or anything...its just a tree...failure >.>
 

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stormtrooper9091 said:
The Gothic series started off nicely, part 2 was good and then 3 was just atrocious piece of shit.
Finally someone who mentions the gothic series! "Gothic 2: the Night of the Raven" was imho the best part of the series. It all went downhill from there...

Definitely one of the most underrated game series, in my opinion.

Yes, I immediately thought of Gothic 3 as I saw the thread, the game was nothing more than a big disappointment.
 

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Brave Fencer Musashi ----> Musashi: Samurai Legend

The first was fun through its quirky nature of things (a kingdom named after food?). The story wasn't all that bad either, and had some funny and epic moments ("Hey, you forgot something!" if you know what I mean).

The sequel...eh...was it really Musashi? Sure, it had some interesting parts, but it took a totally different route than the original. Not to mention some of the voice actors and music were...ugh...I don't want to talk about that.