FBI Raids Texas Company in Hunt for Anonymous
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I'll be sure to monitor this story as it progresses, that way I'll be sure to know when to get the popcorn out.
No, actually, they did. And have in the past. This leak pertained mostly to the US. The US is not their only target, and has never been,Aeshi said:
That's because there's no country in the world outside of the Dictatorships of the third world that are breaking nearly all of the Geneva Convention rules on the scale that America is. Now I will say I agree with Anon on this issue, but I still don't think that this is the death of America as a free country that happened a long time ago, but rather this is going to be a test of sorts to see if America can actually re-polish their image as a democracy or whether we'll be heading down the road of Orwellian 1984.Aeshi said:
The best thing about this thread?
The number of people that think they lack freedom and that the government is oppressive and evil.
Come on guys, the chances are you are from the US, UK or Australia or some other country of democratic nature. You ARE free. You can go pretty much wherever you want, you are on a message board SAYING whatever you like, you can eat and drink whatever you want. What freedoms are you lacking here? The freedom to rape and murder? I dont know about everyone else, but Im pretty glad the government tries to oppress THOSE particular behaviours.
No-one has the right to know whatever they like. Some things just aren't any of your business. If you think having secrets is bad, then why is it that you have them? Anyone who says they have no secrets is almost definitely lying.
If there's anything to be said, its that most people cant be trusted with absolute freedom.
As for my 2 cents on the whole Anon thing, DDos attacking paypal was just daft tbh, and was bound to bring about this kind of retaliation. They should go back to bothering Scientologists, that I support! =] And Wikileaks are a good idea but should perhaps be more selective about what they leak given the likely consequences of particular items of information.
The number of people that think they lack freedom and that the government is oppressive and evil.
Come on guys, the chances are you are from the US, UK or Australia or some other country of democratic nature. You ARE free. You can go pretty much wherever you want, you are on a message board SAYING whatever you like, you can eat and drink whatever you want. What freedoms are you lacking here? The freedom to rape and murder? I dont know about everyone else, but Im pretty glad the government tries to oppress THOSE particular behaviours.
No-one has the right to know whatever they like. Some things just aren't any of your business. If you think having secrets is bad, then why is it that you have them? Anyone who says they have no secrets is almost definitely lying.
If there's anything to be said, its that most people cant be trusted with absolute freedom.
As for my 2 cents on the whole Anon thing, DDos attacking paypal was just daft tbh, and was bound to bring about this kind of retaliation. They should go back to bothering Scientologists, that I support! =] And Wikileaks are a good idea but should perhaps be more selective about what they leak given the likely consequences of particular items of information.
I'm not saying i like Anonymous, i'm saying i can tolerate them.CJ1145 said:
Do you like it that you don't have to submit your personal information to the public to go on the internet? Do you like being able to go to any website you want without being monitored? So does every bastard on the internet. Would you trade your ability to surf the internet freely for a bit of safety against a random group of nasty people? I hope not.
Anonymous will never die a smoldering death unless you restrict the internet for everyone, and even then it will never truly be gone. Anonymous is, at its essence, a bunch of pricks with some skills in hacking. Getting rid of them is like trying to drop the crime rate of the U.S. to 0, almost impossible.
And yes their real life actions are facades. That's the truth for almost everyone who enjoys the anonymity that the internet brings. Anonymity shows what people would do without any consequences. Can you say this conversation between us would have been the same is we were face to face?
And yes, i would get in a lot more trouble if instead of hacking a stores website, i ran in there and gunned everyone down.
It's just a technical detail, a DDoS [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack] (Distributed Denial of Service) is distributed across several machines, such as a zombie net, while a DoS just has one attacking machine. Distributing the attack makes it harder to stop since you can't fix it just by blocking one IP.Warforger said:
But nobody's asking you to do any of that. Maybe the government shouldn't be able to bend the rules to track them at our expense, but we certainly shouldn't protect Anonymous to prevent a purely hypothetical situation.Burst6 said:
Well I don't know about it from your end but this particular conversation would elicit about the same response from me in real life, yes. As opposed to people who do a complete Face-Heel turn once they get on the internet, I merely become more... exaggerated, I guess.
I suppose that was poorly worded by me. It's closer to setting the store on fire than gunning people down I suppose.
Would you rather live with a government that censors anything it deems harmful, tries to have a control over the internet, and by doing so control information and the freedom of it? If I had the know how, I would fuck with the government all I wanted because the things they are doing now are bullshit.Azaraxzealot said:
