Feminism: has it gone to far?

[Amund]

Whether or not it's gone to far depends on the feminist in question. The "Both sexes should be treated equally" kind of feminists are fine; the "Women are the superior race! Everything with a penis must be castrated and crucified! We don't need a filthy, inferior man to continue the human race; we'll just grow babies on farms!" kind are kinda fucking insane.

what about the ones who paint with their... monthly blood?

That's just...creepy. I assume your called a sexist if you say this too them but wow...creepy. That's like me cooking with my semen to feel more in touch with my "manliness"

I know. I'm usually standing up for rights of Women. I mean I hold up Wonder Woman as an example. She's still very womanly while still being just as strong, if not stronger then either Superman or Batman. Wonder Woman is just as strong as Superman, just as smart as Batman, but she only has one identity (except in the case of the Lynda Carter Tv Series). She doesn't become a Super hero because she wants revenge, or just because its the right thing to do. She does it partly out of love, and because she's an ambassador, truely believing in peace between everybody. Even with all that, she still finds time to indulge in spas and making her self look pretty.

and to my knowledge she has never painted using bodily fluid, god bless her.
Wait doesn't she live in a place that uses men as slaves? What's her view on that? "oh it's ok, they're not black so it's not horrible or anything"

As far as I know, Wonder Woman had never had slaves, neither has the rest of amazonia. They just really hated men due to the fact that men started wars and what not. They didn't use men as slaves, didn't see them as lower beings, but rather just more violent creatures.

 

[The Clinger]

I thinkl this thread is proof enough that sexism is far from dead.

http://xkcd.com/774/

I have no quarrel with the actual Feminist movement, and if I were to actually read the mission statements of the main national groups, I would probably agree with them. That said, I do have a problem with many individuals, and much obvious gender bias, in both directions.

 

[b3nn3tt]

If its not in a public place then its her word against yours

And how well do you think a guy would fair in that situation? Police will almost invariably believe a woman if she cries rape. The worst ones in my opinion are when women get drunk and sleep with a guy, then regret it in the morning and cry rape

There was a case a few years ago, where a man and a woman who hadn't met before were round at a mutual friend's house, where they all enjoyed some wine. They were all getting on all night, when the mutual friend went to bed. The man and woman kept on drinking together and ended up having sex. In the morning the woman cried rape. Eventually she retracted the accusation, but by that time the man had lost his job, and was viewed as a rapist by any number of people. That sort of thing can really mess up people's lives

I'm not trying to say that rape doesn't happen, or that guys don't take advantage of drunk women sometimes, but I think that there is a huge grey area where it is very questionable if something constitutes rape

 

[Amund]

Whether or not it's gone to far depends on the feminist in question. The "Both sexes should be treated equally" kind of feminists are fine; the "Women are the superior race! Everything with a penis must be castrated and crucified! We don't need a filthy, inferior man to continue the human race; we'll just grow babies on farms!" kind are kinda fucking insane.

what about the ones who paint with their... monthly blood?

That's just...creepy. I assume your called a sexist if you say this too them but wow...creepy. That's like me cooking with my semen to feel more in touch with my "manliness"

I know. I'm usually standing up for rights of Women. I mean I hold up Wonder Woman as an example. She's still very womanly while still being just as strong, if not stronger then either Superman or Batman. Wonder Woman is just as strong as Superman, just as smart as Batman, but she only has one identity (except in the case of the Lynda Carter Tv Series). She doesn't become a Super hero because she wants revenge, or just because its the right thing to do. She does it partly out of love, and because she's an ambassador, truely believing in peace between everybody. Even with all that, she still finds time to indulge in spas and making her self look pretty.

and to my knowledge she has never painted using bodily fluid, god bless her.
Wait doesn't she live in a place that uses men as slaves? What's her view on that? "oh it's ok, they're not black so it's not horrible or anything"

As far as I know, Wonder Woman had never had slaves, neither has the rest of amazonia. They just really hated men due to the fact that men started wars and what not. They didn't use men as slaves, didn't see them as lower beings, but rather just more violent creatures.

Ok maybe I was thinking of a dream I had or some pornographic version of the story.
So they're just self righteous assholes. Makes sense, of course I win in the end because I'm not fictitious (or am I?)

I wouldn't say that they're anymore self righteous then any other world leaders. Think about it, one had to believe totally in their own way to lead the world in their way. One would need self righteousness to become a leader at the level of Hippolyta, or a Prez of a real country. Also Wonder Woman is more for equality. I said I hold Wonder Woman up as an example of awesome feminism, not the amazons. There is a difference.

 

[b3nn3tt]

If its not in a public place then its her word against yours

And how well do you think a guy would fair in that situation? Police will almost invariably believe a woman if she cries rape. The worst ones in my opinion are when women get drunk and sleep with a guy, then regret it in the morning and cry rape

There was a case a few years ago, where a man and a woman who hadn't met before were round at a mutual friend's house, where they all enjoyed some wine. They were all getting on all night, when the mutual friend went to bed. The man and woman kept on drinking together and ended up having sex. In the morning the woman cried rape. Eventually she retracted the accusation, but by that time the man had lost his job, and was viewed as a rapist by any number of people. That sort of thing can really mess up people's lives

I'm not trying to say that rape doesn't happen, or that guys don't take advantage of drunk women sometimes, but I think that there is a huge grey area where it is very questionable if something constitutes rape

that woman can be sued for slander, defamation of character and the boss as well. make them pay out of the arse.

Only if the man can prove that there was no rape, which often will only happen if the woman retracts her accusation. The chances of this happening are significantly lower if she is aware that she can be sued by doing so

 

[Egobrain]

Whether or not it's gone to far depends on the feminist in question. The "Both sexes should be treated equally" kind of feminists are fine; the "Women are the superior race! Everything with a penis must be castrated and crucified! We don't need a filthy, inferior man to continue the human race; we'll just grow babies on farms!" kind are kinda fucking insane.

my feelings verbatim
two things i hate about power mad feminists
1. Apparently, as a man, I cannot join their crusade...
2. "Men are shit" is not equality

 

[b3nn3tt]

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i think he can have that accusation stricken from the record too since he wasn't convicted

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I thought that any accusation stayed on your record, regardless of whether you were convicted or not. Obviously it doesn't count as a criminal conviction, and you wouldn't have to report it to employers or anything, but it stays on the police's record doesn't it?