File-Sharing Single Mom Loses Again

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Xanadu84

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Personally, Id live in a tent and publicly send them personal checks for a few hundred dollars at a time, occasionally give them a few penny rolls, and try to act stoic for the media, and tell the RIAA that I will stop doing this if they give me a million dollars.
 

Andy Chalk

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Kwil said:
This makes zero sense to me. In either case it's denying the artist/developer their due. How do you rationalize the hypocrisy of saying one is fine the other isn't?
Primarily because the videogame industry has embraced digital distribution while the music industry has fought it tooth and nail.

Do bear in mind, I said it's "sympathy," not that it's "fine." I'm firmly against both.
 

SharPhoe

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"You don't wanna mess... with the RIAA...
They'll sue you if you burn that CD-R.
Doesn't matter if you're a grandma or a 7-year old girl,
They'll treat you like the evil, hard-bitten criminal scum you are!"


I'm sorry, I felt it was appropriate...
 

onfirejb

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buy teh haloz said:
Dear RIAA: I have a full 120 gigabyte hardrive filled with MP3's I downloaded off the internet. If you are reading this now, I fucking dare you to come to my house right now and try to put me in court.

You're going to get a face-full of RIAA beater, bitches.

P.S. For the uninitiated, it's a 2 by 4 plank of wood with a fuckload of nails on each side.
U deserve a medal.

But only after u club 'em and then download shit loads of mp3's in front of their half-dead bodies.
 

SinisterDeath

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Was this the same lady, who got sued by the RIAA for downloading child songs for her kids?

As for the damages, there logic is this.
She downloaded from person A
She uploaded that, in conjunction to say, 20 people.
Those 20 people uploaded that song to 20 people
And then 20 more people, and then 20 more people, ect, ect, ect. So she according to them, have effectively 'gave' there songs away. For no profit. And they can't claim no-profit, so instead of sueing them for any money she could have earned 'selling' the songs, they have to sue her for potential damages she has suffered the company.
Course, IF those people werne't going to buy those songs anyways, you can't really say they lost any profit.

Also, of course people download songs they haven't heard! Are you stupid!?

Friend: "Dude, I just bought this CD with this awesome song on it"
You: "What song?"
Friend: "*insert song here* it was f***ing great!"
You: "sweet"

So, instead of going out and buying a $30 CD, they go torrent it for free. If they really, really like it, they may buy the song on itunes, you know, to support the artist. Or perhaps, they'll actuallly spend $150 on a concert ticket.
 

Lord_Ascendant

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*pah* the RIAA makes me sick sometimes. Everyone pirates music, EVERYONE. You, Me, that guy down the block everyone does. If they cracked down on everything there wouldn't be enough courthouses,judges or juries to try and convict these people. The RIAA would spend more money than they got from winning. Impossible.
 

Lord Krunk

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There is one way out of this... Bankruptcy! Or would that not work?
Nah, it would work. My dad's partner (he used to have a partnership as Architects) bolted with all the company's money, and then declared bankruptcy to get away with it.

EDIT: Oh, and he bout a truckload of stuff with company money as well, which meant that when he declared bankrupcy my dad was hit with the debt.

One word for that bloke: Asshole. Also shows how screwy the legal system is.
 

Pendragon9

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Well, you're out of luck RIAA. You'll never stop piracy or downloading music on the web. You can step on one poor person, but a million will take her place.

I guess you're just screwed. :p

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Onmi said:
I would calculate how much the fine costs in photograph form and take that many pictures of my dick, then mail it to RIAA. Just to say "You got your money, just not if the form YOU wanted"
I just realized how genius this idea is. The lady might have a problem though. LAcking said genitals.
 

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Pendragon9 said:
Well, you're out of luck RIAA. You'll never stop piracy or downloading music on the web. You can step on one poor person, but a million will take her place.

I guess you're just screwed. :p
the riaa isnt here.
 

Pendragon9

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Leorex said:
Pendragon9 said:
Well, you're out of luck RIAA. You'll never stop piracy or downloading music on the web. You can step on one poor person, but a million will take her place.

I guess you're just screwed. :p
the riaa isnt here.
So? It brings me joy to say it.
 

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I think it's safe to say that this is one of those special moments when everyone is wrong.

Illegally sharing music is wrong. I can certainly understand why it's done and I have a lot more sympathy for it than I do for videogame piracy but at the end of the day it's still denying companies, bands and individuals monies to which they're legally entitled.

Thomas-Rasset is wrong. She put the music online, got busted and then thought she was smart enough to cover her tracks and concoct a story that would fool everyone. Bad, stupid move. Dishonesty has a way of coming out and it never looks good, particularly when you're under oath.

The RIAA is wrong. Two million bucks for some slackjaw who dumped her music on Kazaa? That's so far beyond the bounds of reason that even the RIAA itself seems sheepish about it. All they're going to get out of this award is a boatload of bad publicity, and they know it.

The system is deeply flawed. Sharing copyrighted music online isn't the answer. Coming down like a ton of bricks on the clueless average citizen is not the answer. I have no doubt that someday, way in the future, we'll come up with the answer, but right now we're all just sniffing each other's balls and wondering what's goin' on.

I have to agree with Mr.M that while uploading music is wrong (and dump in our case), squeezing someone that represents a fraction of what is actually going on with piracy is also wrong. Good job RIAA, you just took down 1 and you have about 10 million to go. Piracy will not cease, especially now since the world has no money. And let's not forget that a part of a song's popularity comes from the millions of listeners who have downloaded it for free. Piracy and music are 2 things that kinda help each other and when one disappears, the other is gonna suffer.
 

PsykoDragon

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Halfbreed13 said:
There is a way to avoid this.... don't fileshare and infringe on copyrights. GASP
Genius I know right?
If it weren't for those people who in our eyes are heroes, we third-world country people wouldn't have any games or western music to listen to. I'd be stuck listening to Um Kalthoum's 15-minute music intro before she starts singing what sounds like gibberish even to me, & all the bums who are playing soccer on one platform or another would be in the streets killing people.

Thank you dopeman, Razor1911, ViTALiTY, so on & so forth...
 

Tinblitz

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Malygris said:
File-Sharing Single Mom Loses Again
like squeezing blood from a turnip
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Lawyers know all about getting blood from things, they're vampires.

$2 million? I mean, we all know that these singers, music artists and company officials are in dire need of that money, they're so poor they're down to using only two butlers... I'm not even sure the artists (the wll known ones at least) case about illigial file-sharing (at least, not the bands I listen to). What with Rappers (p'tooie) wearing insane amounts of jewellry, and bands using expensive equipmet, the only singer who looks in need of soem cash (and a good bath) is Amy Winehouse.

How in the name of satan are they expecting her to pay that off?
 

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PsykoDragon said:
Halfbreed13 said:
There is a way to avoid this.... don't fileshare and infringe on copyrights. GASP
Genius I know right?
If it weren't for those people who in our eyes are heroes, we third-world country people wouldn't have any games or western music to listen to. I'd be stuck listening to Um Kalthoum's 15-minute music intro before she starts singing what sounds like gibberish even to me, & all the bums who are playing soccer on one platform or another would be in the streets killing people.

Thank you dopeman, Razor1911, ViTALiTY, so on & so forth...
So illegal stuff is fine as long as it makes poor people happy? That makes perfect sense!
 

The Hairminator

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Wow, punishment for filesharing is soooo justifyed. I'm glad we live in a world with balanced punishments. Those 24 songs, They could probably have fit in like 2 CD's. And last time i checked 2 Cds weren't more than maybe $25 at most. And she now has to pay the record companies $222,000. That's only 8000 times more than the total value of what she stole. Ofcourse, she had it coming. Erection, your Onion?
*sarcasm overload*
This is one of the reasons I want to kill people.
 

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Halfbreed13 said:
PsykoDragon said:
Halfbreed13 said:
There is a way to avoid this.... don't fileshare and infringe on copyrights. GASP
Genius I know right?
If it weren't for those people who in our eyes are heroes, we third-world country people wouldn't have any games or western music to listen to. I'd be stuck listening to Um Kalthoum's 15-minute music intro before she starts singing what sounds like gibberish even to me, & all the bums who are playing soccer on one platform or another would be in the streets killing people.

Thank you dopeman, Razor1911, ViTALiTY, so on & so forth...
So illegal stuff is fine as long as it makes poor people happy? That makes perfect sense!
If I physically go into a music store and steal a CD i wouldn't even get THAT big of a fine.
Punishment does not fit the crime. Do not try to justify the stupidity of the court.
 

Halfbreed13

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LCP said:
Halfbreed13 said:
PsykoDragon said:
Halfbreed13 said:
There is a way to avoid this.... don't fileshare and infringe on copyrights. GASP
Genius I know right?
If it weren't for those people who in our eyes are heroes, we third-world country people wouldn't have any games or western music to listen to. I'd be stuck listening to Um Kalthoum's 15-minute music intro before she starts singing what sounds like gibberish even to me, & all the bums who are playing soccer on one platform or another would be in the streets killing people.

Thank you dopeman, Razor1911, ViTALiTY, so on & so forth...
So illegal stuff is fine as long as it makes poor people happy? That makes perfect sense!
If I physically go into a music store and steal a CD i wouldn't even get THAT big of a fine.
Punishment does not fit the crime. Do not try to justify the stupidity of the court.
Yes the punishment is idiotic, but the crime is still avoidable entirely.
 

FinalGamer

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This only makes me want to keep on not buying CDs.

Also this part makes me wonder.
Although she allegedly had shared over 1700 songs, the RIAA sued over only 24 of them
So only SOME of the artists you care about then? I didn't know the RIAA could choose what songs to sue over, just like I can choose which songs not to have.