File-Sharing Single Mom Loses Again
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In this digital age, the way these record companies are going about things is the complete opposite of the way they should be doing it.
Different with games though, file sharing, especially music, has been around longer... or more announced than games (Napster, anyone?). People that download ; I don't think they give a rats ass if the songs could be bought legally via iTunes, they know there's a free source (torrents, Kazaa, Limewire...) available.
Not saying it's right, not condoning it in any form... but the music companies (bless them, and their jet-owning CEOs) have an age-old problem, which has gotten out of hand far too quickly with the introduction of the Internet that can load more than text files.
Different with games though, file sharing, especially music, has been around longer... or more announced than games (Napster, anyone?). People that download ; I don't think they give a rats ass if the songs could be bought legally via iTunes, they know there's a free source (torrents, Kazaa, Limewire...) available.
Not saying it's right, not condoning it in any form... but the music companies (bless them, and their jet-owning CEOs) have an age-old problem, which has gotten out of hand far too quickly with the introduction of the Internet that can load more than text files.
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Im not surprised they are kinda backing out of this, I'm hating the RIAA more already, 2million is exceedingly excessive.
...What the hell? Then why bother arguing? Do you want me to rephrase it to be super specific?fenrizz said:
No, no, not poor people, we're people who have no access, & no hope to find these games anywhere in their country.Halfbreed13 said:
I will never say that pirating is ok, but will admit that I'm very happy it exists, otherwise I prolly would've never gotten into games, would've ended up being successful at life (j/k), & would have never heard of the escapists.
So it's a grey area for me. Can't admit it's ok, but am damn happy it's there.
I see your point, and I appreciate that you recognize that your story does not automatically make pirating okay. I think we all agree that the punishment was over the top, and we have different beliefs on piracy in general, and I can respect that.PsykoDragon said:
To put things in perspective:
Just because some industries are a certain way does not mean they HAVE TO BE that way - its just the way they developed through human history.
For example just because we use numbers 0-9 does not mean we couldn't use numbers 1-4 for everything in life.
Just because the music industry is used to getting millions and millions in $$ for any fart they produce and "artists" end up getting ridiculously over paid does not mean that that is how it SHOULD be. That is how it WAS when you had to go and wait in line to buy vinyl. The internet shattered that, and songs could be 30 cents, or even less. Its like the industrial vinyl producers sewing internet stores because they can't make a killing anymore.
Just because some industries are a certain way does not mean they HAVE TO BE that way - its just the way they developed through human history.
For example just because we use numbers 0-9 does not mean we couldn't use numbers 1-4 for everything in life.
Just because the music industry is used to getting millions and millions in $$ for any fart they produce and "artists" end up getting ridiculously over paid does not mean that that is how it SHOULD be. That is how it WAS when you had to go and wait in line to buy vinyl. The internet shattered that, and songs could be 30 cents, or even less. Its like the industrial vinyl producers sewing internet stores because they can't make a killing anymore.
Why use kazaa anyway? It's too much of a risk. Just download the songs off of project playlist or something.
Oh wonderful SecuROM music? This is why this battle of pirates vs corporations is so tricky because both of them are assholes in one way or the other.Gyrefalcon said:
I think the larger problem out of all of this , is that they've nailed one person, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars, to probably get £20 a month paid to them from the mom, and the millions of pirates out there are thinking 'Damn, sucks to be her, and now my chances of getting nailed for this are 1 in ten million instead of zero in ten million...*logs back onto pirate bay*'.
They've got two real options, find a way to hammer millions of people for breaking the law, and do it cheaply, or get innovative and find a way to make buying music more attractive.
For me, I'm currently out of work, but when I was working I'd be buying a few cd's and dvd's each month, based on what I'd seen on TV, or online, and yes, from stuff I'd downloaded, partly because it feels like the right thing to do, but partly because I like having big shiny collections of 'stuff' on my bookcases.
Now, there's a slight lack of big shiny collections when it comes to digital distribution, but, is there anything to stop them including a download of the CD or DVD cover with your download, or hell I don't know, some kinda loyalty scheme where you can trade em in for posters, books, keyrings, etc, stuff that can't be downloaded!
As I'm currently on limited funds I admit I'll be pirating things occasionally, but its mainly TV and older games, and if those games show up on Steam I'll buy em there, because they're cheap, and they'll work with no fiddling about. Once I'm employed again I'm sure I'll end up filling my house with crap I don't need once again however.
I think one of the main barriers the RIAA have to get past is that there's a generation at least that mainly thinks there's nothing wrong with file sharing.
They've got two real options, find a way to hammer millions of people for breaking the law, and do it cheaply, or get innovative and find a way to make buying music more attractive.
For me, I'm currently out of work, but when I was working I'd be buying a few cd's and dvd's each month, based on what I'd seen on TV, or online, and yes, from stuff I'd downloaded, partly because it feels like the right thing to do, but partly because I like having big shiny collections of 'stuff' on my bookcases.
Now, there's a slight lack of big shiny collections when it comes to digital distribution, but, is there anything to stop them including a download of the CD or DVD cover with your download, or hell I don't know, some kinda loyalty scheme where you can trade em in for posters, books, keyrings, etc, stuff that can't be downloaded!
As I'm currently on limited funds I admit I'll be pirating things occasionally, but its mainly TV and older games, and if those games show up on Steam I'll buy em there, because they're cheap, and they'll work with no fiddling about. Once I'm employed again I'm sure I'll end up filling my house with crap I don't need once again however.
I think one of the main barriers the RIAA have to get past is that there's a generation at least that mainly thinks there's nothing wrong with file sharing.
better try to extort from that single mom i hear single moms are LOADED 2mil will prob be nothing to her i mean shes gotta be rich shes a single mom after all. in all due seriousness its been happening for awhile and it wont stop.
They must just assume that everyone is able to afford these fines!
I feel quite sorry for that woman, if she already paid a fine once, why does she have to pay a second one for the same pirated music, that is much higher than tthe first?
I feel quite sorry for that woman, if she already paid a fine once, why does she have to pay a second one for the same pirated music, that is much higher than tthe first?
Welcome to capitalism, everyone.
Looks good on paper, doesn't work when put into practice.
Actually, screw that. It looks like shit on paper, too.
Looks good on paper, doesn't work when put into practice.
Actually, screw that. It looks like shit on paper, too.
Wow, she must have been an evil woman, letting all those people listen to songs for free and costing companies that make millions of dollars quite possibly a lot less than a million dollars... that *****...
Yes, she shouldn't have done it.Halfbreed13 said:
No, that doesn't make the penalty any less ridiculous.
Factor in that the RIAA has a history of suing people with no actual evidence of wrongdoing, and not doing wrong is no longer a remedy to large fines.