Final Fantasy IX....What am I missing?

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Garland

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I actually liked Tetra Masters, I did however have to look up what the numbers and letters meant. See j-e-f-f-e-r-s breakdown of the game's strengths if you need more convincing. The game is not for every gamer, but it is a game for every JRPG and Final Fantasy fan.
 

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I felt the same was as the OP when I first played IX. I'd just come off VII and VIII and the way IX went back to a more "traditional" fantasy style didn't sit well with me after the futuristic style of the previous two games.

Then I picked it up again a few years later and was kicking myself for thinking that IX was inferior to VII or VIII. I could go into detail but that's been done already by people more eloquent than I. So I'll just go ahead and post the best bit of music from the best bit of the game.

 

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I don't understand why anyone liked it either, 8 was pretty terrible so maybe it was like "thank Sheogorath that it wasn't as bad as VIII!"
My cousin claims it as one of his favorites, I gave it a look and try and I didn't much enjoy the characters, the load time for the random encounters was abysmal, a lot just irritated me about it. The character style was something else that just grated me. There's much better RPGs, not even being picky it's just I'd rather play any of them than bother with IX again.
 

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Are you kidding me?

Quina was hilarious! Half the reason I replay that game is to laugh at whatever antics Quina gets up to while you're trying to be serious.

Oh, yeah, I guess people like Vivi too, he was pretty adorable.

Though the way you had to get his/her attacks by eating monsters was kinda grinding.... I only ever got healing ones for him/her.

Plus, moogle central! I've never seen that many moogles in one FF game until IX!

Fuckin' love me some moogles, boi :3
 

PedroSteckecilo

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FF9 is pretty high up there as far as my favorite Final Fantasies go... but then again I also have a soft spot for FF12...

For me the big "plus" of Final Fantasy 9 is the fact that it just oozes charm in its character and world design and I just get a big stupid grin on my face every time I play it. Especially the whole section with the play, chasing Garnet around the airship... fighting Steiner as a bomb gets bigger and bigger behind him... just fantastically fun stuff.
 

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Demon ID said:
FF8 is still the best in every possible way :)
Please watch to the FF8 part of this video at 4:44.


FF9 is good because its like a nostalgia trip to the old airship fantasy games, but this time the characters are actually good.
 

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verdant monkai said:
Demon ID said:
FF8 is still the best in every possible way :)
Please watch to the FF8 part of this video at 4:44.


FF9 is good because its like a nostalgia trip to the old airship fantasy games, but this time the characters are actually good.
He will be hunted down and dealt with, thank you for the information.

Edit: It's annoying how accurate he is.
 

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FF9 is overrated. It was largely ignored when it came out as the PS2 was right on it's heels and Chrono Cross came out just before it. Chrono Cross is the better game once you get past the idea that it isn't Chrono Trigger 2. FF9 was a slow paced game with weird characters, call me crazy but I prefer people without tails and I am no fan of rats who walk on two legs, I name her RatFace every time I attempt to play this game. Quina was just embarrassing. Steiner was ok though, I call him Rusty. The ability system was beyond stupid and the Trance system was like a downgrade from FF8's Limit Breaks which were in turn a downgrade from FF7's Limit Breaks.

Anyway, FF6, FF7 and FF8 had airships too. In fact, the airship in FF8 (Ragnarok) was amazing.



 

Elegy of Fools

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Final Fantasy IX is my second favorite in the whole series. Nearly every aspect of its story and character development are seconded only to VI (in my eyes, VI was a crowning achievement, and laid the ground work for every successful Final Fantasy after it). The characters were deeper and more believable than in other installments; and they ALL experienced genuine growth through the story. The story was epic and lengthy, but did not FEEL long - and aside from the story the mini-games were rich and enjoyable.

But, for me, it still always comes back to the characters -- you felt a commitment to each one, and when any of them had to leave the main party for a while, it was bothersome. When one character effectively became useless because of story events, I know I kept them in party anyway and just slugged my way through it until they were fixed. Each character felt unique in combat as well, and their personality was deeply reflected in their style, abilities and attacks.

Beyond just the characters was a world that was richer than most of the series; with many little details reflected in not only each continent, but the towns between them. The stark differences, yet resounding similarities between the two "tribes" of Burmecia; the odd activities of the Mayor of Dali; the Qu and whatever it is they do...

The closing factor that I always loved was the depth of the themes as well. Kuja, as a villain, was astounding - vilified by factors ultimately beyond his control; and when death looms over him, he experiences such a tremendous existential dilemma.

Over all, the characters, the story, and the flow and interchangeability of each made FFIX a great game, as underrated as it seems to be in the eyes of the world.
 

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If you're going to go off airships... I'm fairly certain EVERY Final Fantasy game ever made has airships in it. It's sort of like having a "Cid" character. It's a trope of the series. Of ALL the Final Fantasy games to think are overrated, I'm amused you picked 9. But it obviously isn't your type of game, and that's cool.

I just wanted to say I agree with FF9 being incredible. I still prefer 6 as my all time favorite, but 9 is a good second choice. After that it's sort of a tie between FF4 and FF10. Yeah, I know... I enjoyed 10 so sue me. I haven't been able to finish 12 yet, and refuse to play 13 until I finish 12... so I'm lagging behind.

The only things about 9 that are bad are the card game and Chocobo Hot and Cold. Dear God I hated that minigame so much. Amusingly, the card game in FF8 is the only GOOD thing about that game.
 

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I think we might be in the same boat. I played through FF IX and I enjoyed it, but it would never come close to my top 5. Largely because of some of it's play elements I hate like poison and the fact that a lot of the characters didn't really bring anything to the story.

Not to mention the "Oh by the way I'm the REAL villain" last minute bait and switch.
 

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FF9 was in many ways the last GREAT Final Fantasy game to ever be released. It was a return to series form from days old, but was seen as unpopular when it was released, which is why we haven't made a good return to it since that time.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Elegy of Fools said:
Diddy_Mao said:
Not to mention the "Oh by the way I'm the REAL villain" last minute bait and switch.
That devalued Kuja so much. I hated that.
I never understood this whole 'Necron WTF' thing, as even to my 12 year old self, it seemed kinda clear what happened:

Kuja's main goal in the final part of the game is to wipe out the universe by destroying the crystal at its heart, right? Your party finds him in the crystal world, and tries to stop him, right? After a lengthy battle, Kuja then pulls out his last card and casts Ultima. Your party gets wiped out and by implication so does the crystal.

The next thing you know, your party is at the gates of oblivion, and this massive angel thing is telling you he's about to wipe out the universe. Because, y'know, Kuja already destroyed the crystal, so universal destruction is kind of the next jumping point. Necron is the angel of death and destruction, and the destruction of the crystal is the catalyst that causes him to come out and attempt to destroy everything.

Necron's just FFIX's version of the Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse, that's all. Crystal done got destroyed, and he's the guy who's got to end the universe as a result.
Oh, I understood it, to be certain, and the hints were present, albeit very subtle, throughout the game that something big that controlled existence itself was involved. I was simply disappointed with how it was handled. That moment sort of devalued Kuja's culminating villainy - but that was the point.

I recently did a full play through of the title for the first time in a long time; and I was able to look at and understand things with more clarity than I did when I was younger.

I suppose the best way to look at it is Necron would not have appeared without Kuja's interference, and in that regard is still of his "influence." Looking at it that way actually makes everything even better than before.

Part of the issue I have with the fight is the "break" that's caused. You're riding high, pumped up on an awesome fight with Kuja, and then everything slows down, and the tone just becomes bleak -- you feel like you're not even supposed to win the fight. But I guess in writing this, I've been afforded more understanding -- that would pretty much be the whole theme of the fight and it took me until now to realize that I misinterpreted the fantastic use of tone and music to paint the fight in a negative way.

Touche' FFIX, Touche'
 

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I think 9 was the best of the PSX Final Fantasy games. 7's graphics were horrible, 8's story was horrible, but 9 had a decent story, decent graphics, and more than anything else a world that wasn't contradictory.

In 7 one global corporation was the government and the world was treated by an alien/human splice baby who fell in a hole. 8 has the best start, and overall art, but the magic system was horrid and the world was a joke, complete with a space faring civilization on their own continent that is relatively unknown to the rest of the world.

9's threat was from another world entirely, spear headed by being that just didn't want to die and saw becoming a super being as the only way out. It also had an excellent training and leveling system, combined with ABS combat that was perfected, and then forgotten, after Chrono Trigger. 9's final boss fight was BS though.
 

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While its far from the only reason I love IX, I think what allowed me to get into it was that unlike most other 3d FF games the protagonist is neither teeth gratingly annoying (X, X-2, XIII-2, XII IIRC but its been so long I could be remembering wrong) or an joyless brooding git (VII, VIII, XIII)
 

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Lots of hate on Necron here. For the record, he made perfect sense to me: The gang have finally beaten Kuja, but the battle has taken them all so close to total obliteration that they actually have to fight the very concept of Oblivion itself before they get to go home. Epic.

On topic: Da Schwartz has a very good point - upon release, there were a lot of new FF fans whose only former experience with the series was VII and VIII. This would naturally make the game stand out considerably, especially among those who hated VIII. (Like I did).

However, I'm pretty sure IX would have blown me away even if I hadn't played the two previous games. I just love that low-tech setting, with its red-tiled roofs and green grass, its blimp-like airships and clockwork machinery. It's like playing through a Studio Ghibli movie!
[small]OK, I haven't tried Ni No Kuni yet. My current top priority is Sly 4.[/small]



Also:

Ryan Minns said:
Nine had... well, this

I'm a black waltz Mother****** watch as I am all awesome and better than you... Vivi what are you doing? Vivi, VIVI STAHP!!!

Just one of my loved moments in the game :D
Best cutscene EVER. And quite possibly the best ever description of it! Respect.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Elegy of Fools said:
Diddy_Mao said:
Not to mention the "Oh by the way I'm the REAL villain" last minute bait and switch.
That devalued Kuja so much. I hated that.
I never understood this whole 'Necron WTF' thing, as even to my 12 year old self, it seemed kinda clear what happened:

Kuja's main goal in the final part of the game is to wipe out the universe by destroying the crystal at its heart, right? Your party finds him in the crystal world, and tries to stop him, right? After a lengthy battle, Kuja then pulls out his last card and casts Ultima. Your party gets wiped out and by implication so does the crystal.

The next thing you know, your party is at the gates of oblivion, and this massive angel thing is telling you he's about to wipe out the universe. Because, y'know, Kuja already destroyed the crystal, so universal destruction is kind of the next jumping point. Necron is the angel of death and destruction, and the destruction of the crystal is the catalyst that causes him to come out and attempt to destroy everything.

Necron's just FFIX's version of the Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse, that's all. Crystal done got destroyed, and he's the guy who's got to end the universe as a result.

I don't think the crystal was destroyed, if it was Gaia would have died. Necron was summoned from the hatred of Kuja and the violence occurring on the world at that time. Necron would have destroyed all life in the universe whereas destroying the crystal would have just killed everyone on Gaia. Gaia would have been left as a dying world just as Terra had when it's crystal began to weaken, which is why they were trying to fuse their crystal with Gaia's crystal.
 

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IX does have a lot of charm, but mostly its for fans of the series, after V the series started to dabble more in the steampunk/futuristic themes so when IX came around with a throw back to the days of old we were all super ecstatic about it. Not to mention Beatrix I can't tell you how many people kept wanting to recruit her, if there's a FF that needs a sequel/prequel (besides VII) its IX, Beatrix needs her own game
 

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I keep getting up to the bit with the frog king then losing interest.

And FFVIII is my favourite of the series. I guess that makes me in the minority of fans.