Final Fantasy - recommendation?

TheLastSamurai14

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Crono1973 said:
TLS14 said:
XIII doesn't get the credit it deserves. I beat it twice now, I never beat XII so it's safe to say that I like it more than most Final Fantasy games. I can't count the number of times I beat 6 and 7 but only once for 8 and 9. Twice for X. IV was ok, I beat it once and have no desire to return to it, I didn't like always switching characters, just give me my team and let me build them up. XIII was guilty of that as well but not as bad.
True, but I hear that in XIII-2, Serah and Noel are supposed to be constantly controlled by the player, with the third slot being taken up by guest characters (i.e. Lightning) much like Final Fantasy II. Hopefully we won't have constant plot-related deaths, though.
 

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TLS14 said:
Crono1973 said:
TLS14 said:
XIII doesn't get the credit it deserves. I beat it twice now, I never beat XII so it's safe to say that I like it more than most Final Fantasy games. I can't count the number of times I beat 6 and 7 but only once for 8 and 9. Twice for X. IV was ok, I beat it once and have no desire to return to it, I didn't like always switching characters, just give me my team and let me build them up. XIII was guilty of that as well but not as bad.
True, but I hear that in XIII-2, Serah and Noel are supposed to be constantly controlled by the player, with the third slot being taken up by guest characters (i.e. Lightning) much like Final Fantasy II. Hopefully we won't have constant plot-related deaths, though.
I have played the demo for XIII-2 a few times now. The third slot may be filled by guest characters at some point but in the demo it was filled with a monster. Think Lufia 2 capsule monsters.

I enjoyed the demo alot but to be honest, I would rather have a character to monsters.
 

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Go with IV, VI, VII, X, XII (even though vaan is a horrible character), and XIII cause i like it (that's right i said it bring it on)
 

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enersha said:
9 is the best anyone who says anything else is wrong
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9 is slow paced, get it for those times when you can't sleep.

/enersha

Just kidding.
 

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TLS14 said:
Oh Jesus Christ...the fanbase has THAT type of people? Great...The last thing I want it to be tainted by is a bunch of sexually frustrated misogynists. Luckily, that's most likely an extremely vocal minority. No one I've encountered IRL or on the Internet has even mentioned that scene, much less praised Zidane for his antics.
Every fanbase probably has those kinds of people, so this kind of stuff thankfully rarely bothers me. You won't see me thinking differently over the game Bayonetta because a possible majority loves mentioning how they love the main character's disproportionate body and would like to do stuff to her. Not even the fact that people analyzed Tali's (Mass Effect) sweat to a molecular level made me flynch, as the Internet is known for its weird people.

It's just that this one struck me off guard. I didn't expect to see a bunch of misogynistic and sexual/vulgar comments directed at what seems to be a group of children on an incredibly popular site that is supposed to be family-friendly. So yeah, it being a minorty doesn't help me personally when I keep getting redirected to the comments of those bunch of degenerate pricks every time Zidane opens his mouth.

TLS14 said:
I for one kind of wish Garnet was able to keep the white mage robe for longer. I love callbacks to the older games, and that was one of my favorites.
Completely agreed with you there.

SurfinTaxt said:
I actually dont remember that particular scene, but it sounds light.
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I am not talking about the scene in the game. I am talking about the surprisingly vulgar and misogynistic part of the IX fanbase.
 

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My advice to anyone who wants to get into the Final Fantasy series is the same as Moviebobs advice on comic books: start wherever you want, it doesn't really matter. There is no overarching chronology and the games are overall very different. This also means that none of them really represents the series as a whole, so if you don't like one or some of them you might still enjoy the others. Seek out the ones that are the most available to you and looks the most interesting, then work your way from there.

My personal top five is IX, VI, XII, IV and V. The rest of them range from great to passable in my opinion.
 

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Personally i would recommend 12 as it was also my own first ff game. The mechanic is kinda weird and outs a lot of people off the experience. But if doesn't bother you, its a truely amazing game. i got over 120 hours of gameplay out of it, thats including majority of the sidequest and excluding the very few i didn't bother to do.

10 on the other hand has more or less standard JRPG turn based combat system. So you can go for that too, if your into old school gaming.

Oh, and fair warning FF's are known to have painfully long leveling up times after the first 20 level, and these are no exceptions.
 

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SnootyEnglishman said:
Go with IV, VI, VII, X, XII (even though vaan is a horrible character), and XIII cause i like it (that's right i said it bring it on)
my friend and actually spent the first few minutes wondering if vaan's a girl. But then Ashe and Fran show up and we stopped caring
 

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Here's a brief rundown on each of the main titles of the series, and probably the most available version of the game in question (some may appear as DLC in places, but I'm not sure where; maybe Wii Virtual Console & PSN are the best bets, nothing really on XBL). I've also added some other notable games from Square to this list which somewhat fit in with the JRPG genre.

But yes, the list:

Final Fantasy I & II (GBA)
There's a GBA game with both on one cartridge (with some extra content), but the first few games in the series aren't overly special by today's standards. The grand stories the series were known for didn't really kick in until the 16-bit generation. Nevertheless, surprisingly fun to play.... but probably not the place to start with the series.

Final Fantasy III (probably DS)
Not a bad game, but the low-poly models make it feel very dated. Probably not the place to start.

Final Fantasy IV (GBA or DS remake)
Here is where things really started for the series, at least in regards to the storytelling; simple compared to modern standards, but exceptionally well-done. First game to use the ATB system, and it holds up quite well despite being old. GBA version is sprite-based, so is closer to the original; DS remake uses 3D models and adds in some voice-acting, but has a similar issue to the FF3 DS remake (sprites look better than the low-poly models, though this one holds up better). Excellent starting point.

Final Fantasy V (GBA)
Probably the best iteration of the job system, and one of the most fun to simply play. Storyline is solid and enjoyable, but weakest of the 16-bit titles in my opinion. Not a terrible place to start, but later games mostly moved away from the model it used.

Final Fantasy VI (GBA)
Best soundtrack in any video game, bar none. No, I'm not exaggerating. When an opera scene is considered the highlight of the game, before high-quality sound outputs were even possible, you have something special. One of the best storylines in the series as well, a perfect blend of drama and humour that isn't too simple nor too complex. Probably the starting point for the more sophisticated/complex storylines seen in later titles. A frequent contender for best game of all time, something which other games in the series may also claim. Definitely another great place to start.

*Chrono Trigger (DS remake)
This game came out not long after FF6, and is neck-and-neck with it in terms of quality on all fronts. The storyline and tone is more light-hearted than the FF series, but not completely lacking in drama; great time-travelling story. Soundtrack was also astounding Also a major innovator, by introducing team-based abilities and new game plus mods. Not a place to start for the FF series, but a game that should be placed just the same.

Final Fantasy VII (PS1)
The most popular game in the series, that much is certain. The best? Debatable, but still definitely belonging in the upper-eschelon for the series as a whole. Things probably started to get a bit too convoluted around here for the series' storylines. Arguably the game which was single-handedly responsible for making the series (and JRPG genre) more mainstream. Most people started with this game, so there's no reason to say this is a bad place to start.

Final Fantasy VIII (PS1)
Not a bad game, but not the best received. Worth looking into, but probably not representative of the series as a whole.

Final Fantasy IX (PS1)
Nostalgia overload! This game is a homage to the earlier games of the series, while taking advantage of the modern improvements. Storyline is great, the main issue is that it's probably one of the least remarkable; more light-hearted as well, with a hearty dose of humour. Superb starting point despite being enhanced so much by nostalgia.

*Final Fantasy Tactics (PS1, there might be a PSP version)
Quite a popular spin-off, mostly for the gameplay. Storyline is notoriously complex and the original is said to have some rather hideous translation issues.

*Chrono Cross (PS1)
There's only one big problem with this game... it's the sequel to Chrono Trigger, one of the best games ever made. There was no way in hell that this was going to live up to expectations, but it certainly tried. Might be worth looking into if you enjoy the genre, but isn't quite as required as it's predecessor.

*Xenogears (PS1)
Frequently referred to as the "Evangelion of video games"... well, that might explain just about everything now that I think about it. A cult-classic in many circles, with the most convoluted/complex story of the lot.

Final Fantasy X (PS2)
The first, and arguably the best, of the modern titles; I also hear there's an HD remake on the way. Fully modelled & rendered environments, voice-acting throughout, and an interesting twist of the ATB system seen in all the other games in the series since IV. Probably the best starting point due to it being from the modern era of games, while still having strong enough ties to the older titles.

Final Fantasy X-2 (PS2)
Every FF title is entirely independent in regards to the storyline & mythos... until this game, the series' first actual sequel. Some can argue this is where the series started to go downhill, but it's not a particularly bad game. It's definitely one of the odder entries, with the party being entirely female and the whole game being rather upbeat.

Final Fantasy XII (PS2)
And so the major changes begin, FF12 bears a strange resemblance to MMORPGs and Dragon Age with it's combat (which still being FF-themed); a lot of micro-managing of the AI is required, but you're allowed to set up the default decisions. Potentially the longest (single-player) game in the series as well, including having one boss who will take several hours to kill (though you allowed to save mid-fight); there's also more sidequest than actual main quest. Storyline is more politically oriented than other games in the series, and has issues of being spread way too thin. Reportedly great... but only if you get into the nitty-gritty. As such, not a good starting point for the series.

*Kingdom Hearts I & II (PS2)
Disney + Final Fantasy = the surprisingly good Kingdom Hearts series. Worth checking out in any case, but both of the games in the series (no idea about the spin-offs) have really slow starts.

Final Fantasy XIII (PS3/360)
The only game for the current generation of consoles, FF13 has issues. It gets a lot more negativity than it deserves in my opinion, but a huge reason for this is well-justified: it takes forever to get its act together. You're three to four hours into the game before you even get a taste of the more advanced gameplay, and it doesn't fully open up until you're around 20 hours in; it's safe to say it has the worst starting section of the whole series. The storyline isn't too bad, if a bit odd due to how much jargon gets thrown around at first; the same goes for the characters, though one in particular seems flat-out bonkers. Not a good place to start in any case.

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Hopefully that helps sort out where to start.
 

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BarnaclePD said:
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FF12 - Much better than 13 and a very underrated game.
Seriouly dude
Why do people not like 12? Icould not stop playing it
BreakfastMan said:
Well, FF6 is regarded as one of the best of the series (if not the best. It usually has to fight 7 for that title), so start off with that one I say. I personally love the game to bits. From there... I dunno. Haven't played all the games in the series yet. 8 and 10 are pretty good, so go for those, but avoid 4 (has not aged well at all) or 12 (great combat, crap story). Those are my recommendations, take them as you will.
Seriouly???
12's story is pretty darn good.
 

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FF9 was my favorite, a great fantasy story, good game play blah blah blah you've heard it all before, but one thing I really enjoyed was that the summons got to come out of their shell, I haven't played all the FF games, but of the ones I have played the summons never really had to much to do with the story (Well I played 10 but I thought the story was way to stupid for it to count), but in this game you get to feel the power of them, and it's always fun to see Bahamut go ape shit on everything...
 

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Play FF1-9 while skipping over 8. 8 wasn't bad mind you. I just don't think it should've been a Final Fantasy title.
 

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SurfinTaxt said:
busterkeatonrules said:
I would say IX.

The gallery of main characters is among the best in the series. You'll find more all-time fan favorites in IX than any other FF game, including universally beloved black mage Vivi and pompous knight Adelbert "Sir Rustalot" Steiner, the lawful-anal bodyguard to rebellious princess Garnet.

The story is immersive, enjoyable and well written, cheerful yet epic, making FF IX a real feelgood game.

It also has far less of that tech-heavy sci-fi feel that was getting increasingly common in FF games of the time, and the music is considered by composer Nobuo Uematsu himself to be the best he's ever written.

And, of course, FF IX is readily available on PSN!
Can you tell me where you heard that Nobuo likes IX music the best? Its my favorite of his work as well
I read that on the game's Wikipedia page while looking up some other info some time ago.

Incidentally, while double-checking just now, I noticed that the FF IX soundtrack has its own page too! (Which, of course, also mentions the matter.) Here you go!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Final_Fantasy_IX
 

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Final Fantasy VI (GBA)
Best soundtrack in any video game, bar none. No, I'm not exaggerating. When an opera scene is considered the highlight of the game, before high-quality sound outputs were even possible, you have something special. One of the best storylines in the series as well, a perfect blend of drama and humour that isn't too simple nor too complex. Probably the starting point for the more sophisticated/complex storylines seen in later titles. A frequent contender for best game of all time, something which other games in the series may also claim. Definitely another great place to start.
Why would you praise the soundtrack while recommending the game on the Game Boy Advance? If you want to enjoy the music, surely the SNES or PS1 versions would sound so much better.
 

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My top 3 recommendations

Final Fantasy 7, the Materia system is a unique freeform character customization system, best music of the series, the plot can be a bit confusing but ultimately makes sense.

Final Fantasy 12, a large emphasis on exploration and side quests, a nonstandard JRPG plot and aesthetic, the mostly automated battle system may turn some people off.

Final Fantasy 10, there is a bit more strategy to fights as each character has a specialty, uses a CTB system instead of the ATB, the progression is rather linear.