Final Fantasy XIII-2 Screens Show New Character, Similar Battle System

[MattAn24]

I see the Auto-Battle button is still there, that is enough to turn me off to this game.

Simple. Don't ever press that button. OMFG PROBREM SOLVED!!! It's ONE battle screenshot. How the fuck do you know if there's an option in the settings to TURN IT OFF.

You are totally right. Of course since I can get a five star rating nearly every battle with just pressing auto-battle, why would I waste my time picking out skill - attack - attack - attack?

People said the same thing with Oblivion's fast travel system "just don't use it" but everyone used it.

But there lies the problem. It's a SIMPLE solution.. But people are too braindead stupid to go "Oh, I can just NOT use this function and do it the OTHER way? Neat!" No, they HAVE to complain about it. People DO like the Auto-Battle there, because without it.. Well.. The ATB system is pointless. I've used BOTH forms of battle tactics and I see no problems with either of them! Sure, a lot of the minor battles can be five-starred, but you really have to do a DAMN good job in any Behemoth or Adamantoise fights! The Behemoth can regenerate HP halfway, stand up and repeatedly Sunder your party.

Auto-Battle merely queues up "expected" attacks.. It will NEVER bring up Army Of One when Lightning is a Ravager, or Fang's Highwind as Commando. YOU have to select it. You can go in and chain together one element of spells (if you like), rather than the randomized clusterfuck the Auto-Battle gives you.

Sigh.. Haters gonna hate, and quite frankly, I'm sick and tired of it.

 

[KaWHY deSHOE]

Of course since I can get a five star rating nearly every battle with just pressing auto-battle, why would I waste my time picking out skill - attack - attack - attack?

Because it's... i dunno... fun?

 

[l3o2828]

SQUARE: Hey Enix, you know what would be awesome?

ENIX: No, Square, I do not know.

SQUARE: Let's make a sequal to one of our Final Fantasy games! FFX-2 was so awesome! Let's do FFXIII-2.

ENIX: Um, Square... I am not sure we can put them in any skimpier outfits, or the game might not get released in Sweden due to child pornography claims... Besides, I thought people didn't like the game?

SQUARE: Pish posh, who can't like endless corridors, no plot for half the game, and not a single town to be in? And lets not do skimpy outfits this time. Let's to ARMOUR! YEAH!

ENIX: So, we fixing the bad stuff? Like the combat system?

SQUARE: Enix you fool, we need MORE of what made FFXIII so bad, how else can we justify having more cut scenes than a Kojima game?!

ENIX: You are right Square, this is a good idea. Let's work on this after we re-release FF1 and FFIV for the nth time. Saves us from butchering FFVII...


And that is how games development happens at Square Enix.

PS: I feel Square Enix is like an ex-wife, you once loved them, but now they just seem to exist to make your life miserable.

Haha, i totally agree my friend...

False. Squaresoft was a fucking brilliant company UNTIL Enix BOUGHT THEM. You're trying to claim that Square is aiming for all this "bad content".. The games started getting "worse" AFTER Square was bought BY Enix. FFX-2 was one of the first games under the new name.

Whatever the hell YOU want to think, fine. Keep thinking that. Not a problem. But I KNOW there is a decent FFXIII fanbase and the battle system far exceeded FFX-2.

Seriously, people ***** about turn-based combat, then when it's made less turn-based, the same people still *****? MAKE UP YOUR GOD DAMN MINDS. Stop fucking with the franchise that OTHERS enjoy.

I actually prefer the turn based combat and i think the series died with FFXII and/or X-2.
Regardless, both the Square and Enix sides are making terrible design choices wich only get worse with each new Final Fantasy they release, hopefully the Versus game will put some life into the series again.
But whatever, discussing with rabid fans is pointless, so lalilulelo, i am gone.

 

[Electric Alpaca]

Why is it that the sequel to XIII gets to share battle systems, whereas the sequel to X didn't? When, under my opinion, X had the best battle system of the series.

In any case, I enjoyed XIII - a relaxing game with enough time to get involved within the world. Not the best of the series I'll concede, but for a Final Fantasy fan it hit the spot.

I want to know where Versus XIII has gotten to - it concerns me that games are announced, built and released in the space between information on this game.

 

[ProtoChimp]

I dont care what antone says, I loved ff13, so i cant wait for this.

 

[Akalistos]

Sir, I don't think you understood my post.
Snip 1: I love Square-Enix.

You said:

False. Squaresoft was a fucking brilliant company UNTIL Enix BOUGHT THEM. You're trying to claim that Square is aiming for all this "bad content".. The games started getting "worse" AFTER Square was bought BY Enix. FFX-2 was one of the first games under the new name.

According to this, you meant that their games and product have been on a decline for a long time. If you say it like that, no. It doesn't make anyone believe you like their title at all.

Again, you misread. I don't "love" them, nor do I hate them. Apparently quotation marks aren't a valid form of "this is what people seem to believe". I did the same for "bad content". Because that's subjective. Just because a group of people think something, doesn't mean the other group has to as well. In fact, that other group is laughing at the "haters", whilst pulling silly faces.

Then, It's clearly a misuse of quotation mark. No, quotation mark often mean the opposite of what you declare. I also remind you that if it's the case, the first line would be full of quotation mark. As it stand, it's seem like a opinion from the write and not a what you are trying to describe.

 

[Akalistos]

I'm going to have to assume by your rampant FF7 fanboyism, that like most Westerners, you've only played Final Fantasy VII and don't care for the rest because "it's not Final Fantasy VII!!!111one!!111"..

Wow, was that uncalled for. Seriously? If you are going that route, you can be call a SE fanboy and an hater. But back on topic, he's right about this. It's the most requested remake in history. Sure, it wouldn't be anything new but with the amount of people waiting for it... It would do his money back in 5 days. So, If they ever wanted to make a game that would be sure to sell million, it's this one.

Auto-battle is pretty much exactly like "Pressing Attack" in the previous games. What the fuck is so bad about that now, hm? FFVII had "Attack", "Magic", "Item"..

No it's not. Hell, you can actually see the ATTACK BUTTON when you play FF13. The Attack button is basically the melee attack for the actual fighter in the game. From Steiner to the Fighter from FF1. It's also there if you want to conserve MP before a boss instead of throwing away your Ethers. On the contrary, FF13 auto-battle select from your pool of ability and select what it think (Because I saw Hope trying to get in the face of an enemy as a healer, which mean the AI is pretty low) to be the best in this situation. Seeing as it take all of the power you have, it's more easy to see that it's not the same thing.

The point is, it's all about strategy and figuring the best way to beat each encounter. For example: You can trow your blizzard spell on a Bomb (knowing it would grow faster even if he's weak against it) and hoping he doesn't explode and completely wipe the party, or you can do the sensible thing of soften him up with attack and when he's about to blow, to finish him with the blizzard spell. It's the only playable thing in a FF title, doubly so for the corridor-fest that is FF13. Take that away, and it's a just a 60h movie with little involvement of the player who, at this point, isn't roleplaying anymore.

All the usual JRPG battle traits. You don't HAVE to use Auto-battle at all, ever. You can easily select your own attacks. But the choice is THERE. Simply removing it would then anger others who DID use it often/regularly/sometimes. Hell, there's an option in the settings to have the cursor automatically point to Auto OR Abilities. You can completely disregard Auto-battle even existing. So, your argument itself is flawed.

And what's the point of using it? Can you select your own attack? I see that with many FF13 Fan. Why do you need it and why should it be there? If you can't answer me that as a civilized individual, without insult, and so the whole make sense... Then, I will agree with you. As it stand, nobody did and i suspect nobody will.

Actually, a lot of your argument is flawed. Saying "SE is indifferent to the Final Fantasy MAIN series now" either shows you're an incredibly butthurt FFVII fanboy or you just can't tolerate there being spin-offs that people WILL enjoy, whether you like it or not.

Reply like that show the same thing about you, you know.

I likes me some Final Fantasy, but I don't exactly want Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time or Ring of Fates.. I didn't really care for FFVIII that much.. But it exists and people enjoy it. They aren't WRONG. They just like playing it, whereas I prefer to play a different game.

Please grow up..

That's taste what it is, taste. One of my friend told me he love Banana - mayo toast in the morning. Can you really say it's wrong if he likes it? No.

So, you love FF13 and good for you. Thing is, when it come to design decisions, game mechanic, character, anything that doesn't come down to you either loving or hating the game, it's debatable. You can't stop it and neither does you attitude work in your favors. If you don't want to debate on this, just don't reply... but being a jerk doesn't make you the winner. It does, however, make you look like a kid who's rattle just been taken by another child. Be polite... and everyone will.

 

[Hogbinladen]

I actually really enjoyed FF XIII, but I would like to see some 'evolution' of the battle system. There wasn't much difficulty towards the end, except for the final boss which decided to instagib the party leader half of the time. The super-bosses were more following a routine really. Hopefully some changes to the system can make things more challenging.

Whatever happens, I am looking forward to it.

 

[AbstractStream]

"Auto Battle" ¬_¬

Biggest issue here..

Problem -Serah (looks) 15 (she IS 17 I think)... Wait.. that's not a problem.. that's the typical fighting age apparently..

Shall be interesting to see how "magic" works in this game.. considering it'd be a dick move to make them "L'cie" again.. that's what I think anyway.

Yeah, that's my biggest issue as well. I just saw the E3 trailer, and well it's gotten my interest back, but how the heck is the whole Eidolons and magic thing gonna work now? The L'cie concept seems out now.

I'm also curious as to why they think Lightning is dead.

 

[Defense]

And what's the point of using it? Can you select your own attack? I see that with many FF13 Fan. Why do you need it and why should it be there? If you can't answer me that as a civilized individual, without insult, and so the whole make sense... Then, I will agree with you. As it stand, nobody did and i suspect nobody will.

It exists so lazy bastards can bash the game claiming that it plays itself. I only want it gone so those people will shut up.

 

[Akalistos]

And what's the point of using it? Can you select your own attack? I see that with many FF13 Fan. Why do you need it and why should it be there? If you can't answer me that as a civilized individual, without insult, and so the whole make sense... Then, I will agree with you. As it stand, nobody did and i suspect nobody will.

It exists so lazy bastards can bash the game claiming that it plays itself. I only want it gone so those people will shut up.

While where at it, let's remove the annoying crybaby cast (because if you can make both Sephiroth and Cloud into pillar of manliness, you are doing something Incredibly wrong), The linar as hell Corridor filled maps, Retool the story so the people doesn't have to go through a couple of hour to get a peak at it, the combat system that is taken directly from Xenogear (but they wouldn't sue... not when they made the worst most boring combat system the universe has ever seen. Man, even 12's system would be better), Remove the "turn into crystal" part (because any sane person would prefer being a zombie then being a freaking rock) and it could be a great game. And... Did I just remove 99% of the game?

Edit: There's not just the battle system... but was the topic of his post. And from the answer, I'm willing to bet you're mad because people don't share those feeling with the game.

 

[MattAn24]

Dear everyone, prepare to be proven wrong.

https://member.eu.square-enix.com/en/blogs/hands-final-fantasy-xiii-2-exclusive-details-revealed

They listened, it's going to be quite the improvement! So please stop whinging.

While where at it, let's remove the annoying crybaby cast (because if you can make both Sephiroth and Cloud into pillar of manliness, you are doing something Incredibly wrong), The linar as hell Corridor filled maps, Retool the story so the people doesn't have to go through a couple of hour to get a peak at it, the combat system that is taken directly from Xenogear (but they wouldn't sue... not when they made the worst most boring combat system the universe has ever seen. Man, even 12's system would be better), Remove the "turn into crystal" part (because any sane person would prefer being a zombie then being a freaking rock) and it could be a great game. And... Did I just remove 99% of the game?

Edit: There's not just the battle system... but was the topic of his post. And from the answer, I'm willing to bet you're mad because people don't share those feeling with the game.

Sorry, but "So the people doesn't have to go through a couple of hour to get a peak at it".. Your sentence structure. What. Just.. What.

And wait.. Cloud is manly? Okay, that's absolute bullshit. No he isn't. Did you play Crisis Core? He was nothing but a lowly Shinra grunt. He FAILED getting into SOLDIER. That was all Zack. Cloud only got "stronger" because Professor Hojo infused him with mass amounts of Mako energy during experiments.

Not sure if you're referring to me or the guy you quoted when you claimed "you're mad because people don't share those feelings with the game". If it was towards me, you're incorrect. I'm not mad at people having an opinion, whether it opposes mine or not. I'm mad at the blatant bashing of Final Fantasy, simply because it's a JRPG. No game has to suit everyone. Ever. If it's not a game you (or anyone else) wants to play, simple, just don't play it. However, by not playing it, you therefore forfeit any and all rights to *****/complain about it. If it's a legitimate issue, fine. Mention it to SE all civil-like. Don't just ***** about it. Hell, in the above link I provided, they outright admit their faults with XIII and vowed to take ALL constructive criticism on board. It's even added a little WRPG flavour with multiple story paths and decisions to make. NPCs/Towns ARE returning, as are moogles (which I personally found rather minor, but people do love their moogles!)

Supposedly, there's even a Jump button. (In MY Final Fantasy game!? NO. Holy fuck. Why is it so hard to add a Jump button in FFXI (a nine year old game) or FFXIV (fix the major issues first, SE.. LIKE ADDING THE GOD DAMN CHOCOBOS AND AIRSHIPS!) then?)

 

[Akalistos]

Dear everyone, prepare to be proven wrong.

https://member.eu.square-enix.com/en/blogs/hands-final-fantasy-xiii-2-exclusive-details-revealed

They listened, it's going to be quite the improvement! So please stop whining.

Whine? For god sake, Fanboy (because they are at this point) attack people that doesn't love the game and it's whinning? Really, doesn't people have the right to their opinion? That's funny, because those angry filled reply are really the same thing. In fact, doesn't reply angry post saying STFU THEY ARE OK is the very definition of whining. That could be a debate all on their own.

As for promises, It wouldn't be the first time we get lied to. I'm not talking to the world at large, just in gaming. From Hideo Kojima to freaking Peter Moleniux (I won't waste the five second to google his name). Hell, they said the same thing with FF14 and look. People claim that it make look Age Of Conan like a World Of Warcraft in a holodeck. Time is always a big factors in game, some of the lesser title could have major hit if not for time. Rush Production of a triple A title can really hurt the game.

The Only thing you show me is promises. It's impossible to tell if they will do it, but from the pick I saw. No... I don't believe them. It's marketing bullshit and frankly shouldn't be listen to. Because I would be surprise of a marketing where the selling speach is: THAT GAME IS SO BAD, YOU'LL INVENT A TIME MACHINE TO GET THE MINUTES BACK.

While where at it, let's remove the annoying crybaby cast (because if you can make both Sephiroth and Cloud into pillar of manliness, you are doing something Incredibly wrong), The linar as hell Corridor filled maps, Retool the story so the people doesn't have to go through a couple of hour to get a peak at it, the combat system that is taken directly from Xenogear (but they wouldn't sue... not when they made the worst most boring combat system the universe has ever seen. Man, even 12's system would be better), Remove the "turn into crystal" part (because any sane person would prefer being a zombie then being a freaking rock) and it could be a great game. And... Did I just remove 99% of the game?

Edit: There's not just the battle system... but was the topic of his post. And from the answer, I'm willing to bet you're mad because people don't share those feeling with the game.

Sorry, but "So the people doesn't have to go through a couple of hour to get a peak at it".. Your sentence structure. What. Just.. What.

You know, people love to hit on foreign people when they don't agree with them. I now wonder if it's a point will all English people or just fanboyish attitude for being hurt that the world doesn't agree with them. Hell, I'll have the decency not to laugh at you if you attempted to speak my language. Show some respect!

And wait.. Cloud is manly? Okay, that's absolute bullshit. No he isn't. Did you play Crisis Core? He was nothing but a lowly Shinra grunt. He FAILED getting into SOLDIER. That was all Zack. Cloud only got "stronger" because Professor Hojo infused him with mass amounts of Mako energy during experiments.

Yeah, that's my point! This guy, compare to the whole cast of FF13, came on top. I could say the same thing with Yuffie, but now it's getting into the being mean just to be mean category.

Not sure if you're referring to me or the guy you quoted when you claimed "you're mad because people don't share those feelings with the game". If it was towards me, you're incorrect. I'm not mad at people having an opinion, whether it opposes mine or not. I'm mad at the blatant bashing of Final Fantasy, simply because it's a JRPG.

Most of the reply I saw didn't say anything about JRPG. Hell, those who don't like it doesn't even go near any thread about them. I don't know where you are getting that.

No game has to suit everyone. Ever. If it's not a game you (or anyone else) wants to play, simple, just don't play it. However, by not playing it, you therefore forfeit any and all rights to *****/complain about it.

I owned the game... I burned the disk and throw my strategy guide into the garbage. They wouldn't even take it back at my local game shop. Not even for credits, and yeah they are known for doing it. Their exact quote was: "To many return, we can't stock them anymore." So, yeah. I have played the game before saying my own point because It impossible to comment on something you don't at least tried.

If it's a legitimate issue, fine. Mention it to SE all civil-like. Don't just ***** about it. Hell, in the above link I provided, they outright admit their faults with XIII and vowed to take ALL constructive criticism on board. It's even added a little WRPG flavour with multiple story paths and decisions to make. NPCs/Towns ARE returning, as are moogles (which I personally found rather minor, but people do love their moogles!)

Moogle? Branching path? You know why I loved JRPG. For the story. Nothing about doing 35 branching sidequests but 5 story one. Bethesda, that one was aimed squarely at you. None of those promises bring anything that would fix the issues I got with the game. Nothing is said about fixing the environment, the character, the combat system... nothing. They do promise us that we will be able to move around like in Kingdom Hearts, Be able to choose some little story paths like Mass Effect 2 (The actual paragraph sound just like the Archangel mission. Yeah, when you are given the chance to kill the attack spacecopter's mechanic), Dark tones like L.A. NOIR and a captured monster system which sound like a mash-up of Pokemon and Lufia!

Supposedly, there's even a Jump button. (In MY Final Fantasy game!? NO. Holy fuck. Why is it so hard to add a Jump button in FFXI (a nine year old game) or FFXIV (fix the major issues first, SE.. LIKE ADDING THE GOD DAMN CHOCOBOS AND AIRSHIPS!) then?)

Can you keep your reply clean of insult?

 

[MattAn24]

Whine? For god sake, Fanboy (because they are at this point) attack people that doesn't love the game and it's whinning? Really, doesn't people have the right to their opinion? That's funny, because those angry filled reply are really the same thing. In fact, doesn't reply angry post saying STFU THEY ARE OK is the very definition of whining. That could be a debate all on their own.

As for promises, It wouldn't be the first time we get lied to. I'm not talking to the world at large, just in gaming. From Hideo Kojima to freaking Peter Moleniux (I won't waste the five second to google his name). Hell, they said the same thing with FF14 and look. People claim that it make look Age Of Conan like a World Of Warcraft in a holodeck. Time is always a big factors in game, some of the lesser title could have major hit if not for time. Rush Production of a triple A title can really hurt the game.

The Only thing you show me is promises. It's impossible to tell if they will do it, but from the pick I saw. No... I don't believe them. It's marketing bullshit and frankly shouldn't be listen to. Because I would be surprise of a marketing where the selling speach is: THAT GAME IS SO BAD, YOU'LL INVENT A TIME MACHINE TO GET THE MINUTES BACK.

Sigh.. Why am I doing this? I'm not saying people shouldn't have opinions! Please actually read properly.. Your profile says you're Canadian.. Therefore I'd assume you should be able to understand English rather well. I meant no form of insult or racism by what I said. Merely wondering why you're completely dodging my point and forming your own view of what I've said, essentially putting words in my mouth that I never said. Please read more carefully, sir.

And seriously.. It's don't. Not doesn't. That's.. Basic English. The utmost basic. :/ I mean no disrespect, it's just very hard to read your posts professionally..

You know, people love to hit on foreign people when they don't agree with them. I now wonder if it's a point will all English people or just fanboyish attitude for being hurt that the world doesn't agree with them. Hell, I'll have the decency not to laugh at you if you attempted to speak my language. Show some respect!

Again, I'm not a fanboy of FFXIII. I despise the term "fanboy". Absolutely hate it. I play whatever games I want to play, no matter which company designed it. That's MY choice to decide. I'm in no way claiming that FFXIII was flawless. Far. From. It. There were MANY issues I had with the game, but as I have discussed with others who also "merely enjoyed" FFXIII and those apathetic to the whole series, what it offered was fine. As I stated previously, no one HAS to like a game. Ever. I really do not care if a person loves/hates/likes/tolerates a game/thing. Caring about that kind of thing is pointless. What annoys me is when people just blatantly insult the game and anyone who plays it. (I'm saying this for games I dislike as well, so calling me a fanboy is you just being silly. Sorry, but that's the truth.)

Sure, anyone's free to "not like something", just don't abuse others for actually liking it for what it offered to THEM. I feel I have every right to say this, because it's incredibly "middle ground". I don't ***** about a game because I think it's bad. I respect others views, put away the game and play something else.

Yeah, that's my point! This guy, compare to the whole cast of FF13, came on top. I could say the same thing with Yuffie, but now it's getting into the being mean just to be mean category.

...What. You just made zero sense again. Did you even get far enough to have Fang in your party? Fang is the Auron of FFXIII. Absolutely awesome character, who possesses a GIANT TRANSFORMING DRAGON (Bahamut) as her Eidolon. Dude. GIANT. ROBOT. TRANSFORMING. DRAGON. Plus Sazh is hilarious and awesome. I will be annoyed if FFXIII-2 has no appearance of either of those two, they're brilliant characters. Quite happy to see Hope die in a fire though, no argument there.

Most of the reply I saw didn't say anything about JRPG. Hell, those who don't like it doesn't even go near any thread about them. I don't know where you are getting that.

..What? How long have you been at The Escapist for? You mean to tell me you've never seen the comments threads for most JRPG news articles? It ALWAYS turns into WRPG vs. JRPG. JRPG's are ALWAYS bashed here. Yes, I've also seen many folks here who prefer JRPGs, but they either stay quiet during those "debates" because they're smart and just play what THEY want to play, or they end up getting bashed as well for defending a game they genuinely enjoyed. They should have no reason to DEFEND THEIR CHOICE OF GAME. That's absurd. Anyone that complains about it should simply just play whatever they DO enjoy. It's common courtesy to respect others choice of interest. Sure, have constructive criticism, say what you "didn't like", but neither side (for OR against) should be attacking/defending. One person might DESPISE FF12's battle system, one might DESPISE FF13's battle system. It doesn't mean anyone that DID like those systems should have to defend it from such vitriolic ranting. I'm trying to find a middle ground here, man. I'm saying I don't LIKE the ongoing argument over "THIS GAME SUCKS BUT THAT ONE IS BETTER, DEAL WITH IT, YO!"..
Neither person is incorrect. It's completely situational and depends on a person's individual tastes.

Example: I never played Assassin's Creed. Any of them. Ever. Not even the first one. I just didn't care for it enough to warrant a purchase. I didn't ***** about the game, saying it was bad and why I didn't buy it. No. I bought something else and played that. It's 2011 now. I was seeking recommendations on Twitter from Stephanie "Hex" Bendixsen and Steven "Bajo" O'Donnell, the hosts of Australia's games review show, Good Game. Hex has been majorly fangirling about the Assassin's Creed for weeks, so I took that as a recommendation to pick up AC1 & AC2. AC1 is from 2007 (or earlier?) I'm playing it NOW and enjoying it. I changed my opinion on the series, but I didn't love or hate it, I still don't love or hate it. I just.. Like playing that game. Simple.

I owned the game... I burned the disk and throw my strategy guide into the garbage. They wouldn't even take it back at my local game shop. Not even for credits, and yeah they are known for doing it. Their exact quote was: "To many return, we can't stock them anymore." So, yeah. I have played the game before saying my own point because It impossible to comment on something you don't at least tried.

Not my problem you burned it and threw it out. You chose to do that yourself. However, not a single person I've ever spoken to has ever had a problem trading in games, bad or not.

Moogle? Branching path? You know why I loved JRPG. For the story. Nothing about doing 35 branching sidequests but 5 story one. Bethesda, that one was aimed squarely at you. None of those promises bring anything that would fix the issues I got with the game. Nothing is said about fixing the environment, the character, the combat system... nothing. They do promise us that we will be able to move around like in Kingdom Hearts, Be able to choose some little story paths like Mass Effect 2 (The actual paragraph sound just like the Archangel mission. Yeah, when you are given the chance to kill the attack spacecopter's mechanic), Dark tones like L.A. NOIR and a captured monster system which sound like a mash-up of Pokemon and Lufia!

Sigh.. I never said what YOU specifically want. I stated what I've seen others say. Moogles (and Chocobos) are a STAPLE to the Final Fantasy franchise. Moogles were decidedly absent from FFXIII and folks were rather saddened by this. The simple things still got to people, but SE is TRYING to fix that. They're obviously not going to please everyone, and they don't plan to. FFXIII-2 will appeal to those who play it and enjoy it for what it has and what's been improved/added. Those that don't enjoy it? Simple, Play something else, the game is obviously not for you. Plenty of games out there! Plenty that you WILL like. It does NOT mean you get to complain about how supposedly "bad" the game is to those that like it. That's just cruel.

Can you keep your reply clean of insult?

Supposedly, there's even a Jump button. (In MY Final Fantasy game!? NO. Holy fuck. Why is it so hard to add a Jump button in FFXI (a nine year old game) or FFXIV (fix the major issues first, SE.. LIKE ADDING THE GOD DAMN CHOCOBOS AND AIRSHIPS!) then?)

I... But.. What!? Where did I insult you, exactly? Point out where in the above quote actually insulted YOU. Nothing. That's what I thought. I threw a jab at SquareEnix. Not you. You obviously can't "fix the issues of FFXIV" so how exactly is that even remotely directed towards you? I made the remark about the Jump button being in XIII-2 but not XI/XIV (the MMOs) purely at SquareEnix. I played Final Fantasy XI Online for FIVE (of the nine the game's been out) YEARS STRAIGHT. I believe I'm perfectly within my rights to comment harshly about there not being a Jump button and having to walk/run through an entirely different area to get to a different entrance BACK to the previous area to get to the top of a ledge. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.

Now, because I value my sanity, this conversation is over. I didn't ask for a further argument with you. I merely posted a link (of which there are SEVERAL around the internet) from game sites praising the playthrough they got to test.. That SE article just happens to be written by their European community rep, who is NOT exactly obliged to be purely full of praise.

 

[remnant_phoenix]

While trying to think of a witty way to say "Final Fantasy XIII sucks," I realized that I struggle to put into words just how much I despise the game.

Let me just say that as a long-time Final Fantasy fan, FFXIII is the only video game I can think of that actually OFFENDED me with it's awfulness.

And its sequel can go die in fire.

 

[Squiggles]

FFXIII was, a disappointment in many ways, but the setting did have a lot of potential, S-E just made the mistake of throwing the player in the middle of the story without adding any of the background world in play.

I wanted to know more about the world and I didn't want to read it in the manual (which too be honest i had more fun reading than playing the 'game').

but now ill have to actually go back and finish the game... sigh

Spoiler: and on FFX-2

The game wasn't THAT BAD! I just think a whole lot of people just weren't expecting what it actually was. Yes its very prissy on the outside but its core mechanic, the job changing system is incredibly tactful, the non linear gameplay had a host of missions that were fun and actually having to search for them was a nice surprise. i finished the game without side missions in a weekend, but with all the extra missions and dress spheres, the crimson sphere side mission opened another side of Spira i loved to explore! and the addition of New game plus was awesome..