Final Fantasy XIII-2 Screens Show New Character, Similar Battle System
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It's ONE battle screenshot. How the fuck do you know if there's an option in the settings to TURN IT OFF.
False. Squaresoft was a fucking brilliant company UNTIL Enix BOUGHT THEM. You're trying to claim that Square is aiming for all this "bad content".. The games started getting "worse" AFTER Square was bought BY Enix. FFX-2 was one of the first games under the new name.l3o2828 said:
Whatever the hell YOU want to think, fine. Keep thinking that. Not a problem. But I KNOW there is a decent FFXIII fanbase and the battle system far exceeded FFX-2.
Seriously, people ***** about turn-based combat, then when it's made less turn-based, the same people still *****? MAKE UP YOUR GOD DAMN MINDS. Stop fucking with the franchise that OTHERS enjoy.
Ok, this is why a lot of FF Fan want this thing to die. They were pretty divided on it (a bit like Metroid Other M), both to the extreme. Now instead of trying to meet both side's demand, they actually turn this into a pet project from the producer. It's like seeing the preview of Final Fantasy - The fanfic of the fanfic the game.
Didn't the tale of Sonic the Hedgehog reach them? Of how they fell an never were able to be big again? They should have learn their lesson, but if they don't, they sure as hell gonna do now because nobody who dislike that game (like I do) will be stupid enough to buy it.
Didn't the tale of Sonic the Hedgehog reach them? Of how they fell an never were able to be big again? They should have learn their lesson, but if they don't, they sure as hell gonna do now because nobody who dislike that game (like I do) will be stupid enough to buy it.
No, from a fan of Final Fantasy... and a guy that went under the pseudonym of THE RED MAGE. They made great games, from Kingdom Hearts series to Dissidia, Tactical Ogre and Musashi: Samurai Legend. They published a lot of games, but they weren't made by them. But I do agree that they haven't made any recent hit as of yet. Only catastrophe.MattAn24 said:
Edit: Jumped a sentence there, so I remove the irrelevant part of my reply.
The battle system was very... divisive. On one hand, people praised its fast pace and cinematic flare. It can certainly make a fight look exciting, so in terms of presentational style it's fairly successful. On the other hand, the actual statistics and mechanics driving it were exceptionally shallow. There's definitely an element of strategy present, but it's so marginalized and indirect that it's not all that interesting to play.Sky Captanio said:
For instance, a lot of the time I don't interact with the enemies at all. I can literally sit there and do healing commands on my two AI-controlled party members, and they'll do all the heavy lifting for me. Fights come down to stuff like this all too often, basically asking you to "fill in the blank" for the third part of a strategy that the game will otherwise automatically play through. It's just not an engaging combat model, and it shows in that the developers had a very difficult time putting together a range of different kinds of challenges.
Team effort, everybody should share the blame. Not just Nomura but everybody.CielTynave said:Wow, the last part of that image really made me facepalm. Do people really assume just because Nomura did the character designs, he had full control over every aspect of the game, or what?Defense said:
Sir, I don't think you understood my post.Akalistos said:
I'm certainly no Square Enix fanboy, but I will buy a Square Enix game before a BioWare game. If that means something.. Then.. Meh. Don't care. I'll play what I want to play, not what someone tells me to play, y'know?
I LOVE Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts. Hell, I own both on PSP and play them whenever I can. They certainly haven't made "catastrophic" games though.. I thoroughly enjoyed FFXIII and played it daily since purchase. I bought the collector's edition (game AND numbered hardcover guide), I enjoyed the battle system, I enjoyed changing my role mid-battle depending on the situation. Battles are still rather challenging and I've completed the game and unlocked the Stage 10 Crystarium.
In most WRPGs, you don't exactly have to use your brain much. You just shoot bullets from "the gun". I plan my attack according to the enemy I'm fighting in Final Fantasy games. I study them and adjust to stay ahead of the curve.
I didn't even mind the plot.. Seemed fairly simple to me. They're l'Cie. Treated as outcasts/enemies by humans of Cocoon and so they're on the run. Some of the "chosen" l'Cie can't/won't accept that and stray from their supposed "mission". Add some RPG drama and party member lulz along the way and all's fine.
Now, FFXIII, through my eyes, is by no means "perfect". Every game has its flaws. Every game is not going to appeal to every gamer. I understand that there are flaws but I got what I wanted from my time, so I see no reason to complain. Christ, I'm still playing the damn game to this day, every so often, just for some lulz and Behemoth juggling.
*facepalm*
seriously Square Enix, why not, as opposed to repeating the mistake you made with FFX, just remake FF7; trust me, more people will buy this.
including me.
seriously Square Enix, why not, as opposed to repeating the mistake you made with FFX, just remake FF7; trust me, more people will buy this.
including me.
Please, for the love of god, don't defend a feature in a game thats unanimously acknowledged as a terrible flaw.MattAn24 said:
the fact that the gameplay of FF13-2 is SIMILAR to the first is why people will hate it. SE confirmed the auto-battle option is back (ergo, the "press A, win game" mode), clearly understanding that the battle system is STILL too automatic, but their too lazy to fix it.
also, this proves that SE is pretty much indifferent to the Final Fantasy MAIN series by now; why? because:
They haven't remade FF7, an OBVIOUS cash-in that everyone and their cat would buy.
They are making FF Versus 13 similar to Kingdom Hearts (which was AWSOME).
They released the Dissidia games, which weren't completely automatic.
And Kingdom Hearts BBS wasn't automatic.
However, if YOU want to enjoy the game, then so be it. you've stated your opinion, DON'T attack everyone else because they don't like an obviously terrible flaw (repitition for effect).
FF7 can't be remade anymore. They will remove anything that made this game good by removing the mature contents. That includes Cloudette.megaman24681012 said:
They will also force Cloud to be Emo and GRIMDARK just because the fangirls want it.
You said:MattAn24 said:
According to this, you meant that their games and product have been on a decline for a long time. If you say it like that, no. It doesn't make anyone believe you like their title at all.MattAb24 said:
And no, I'm not a fanboy either. I don't like Square or Enix or both for that matter. I like some of their titles. I look at game on their own merit... except when they are clearly rehash of something bad. *cough* FF13-2*cough*
Yeah, I've read some synopsys... but the way it was delivered was bad. Like the guys (and girl) of Extra Credit said: Show, don't tell. The glossary should be there only for those who left the game for a long time and decided to pick it up. It's too late to explain when you are several hours in.
I agree. I love Metal Gear Solid 2 more then any other game in the series (I've got my reason, but I don't want to make a 54 page dissertation on it). The problem is: Sequel should improve on and correct those flaws. Deadly Premonition have a cult following because of it's flaws, but if they were to make a sequel, some of those flaws should be corrected. In FF13's case, they weren't funny but aggravating and should have been the first things on the blackboard to be crossed out.
Square-Enix Project Director: "This is what people bitched about. Now before we start with FF13-2, I want solution to those problems now."
I'm going to have to assume by your rampant FF7 fanboyism, that like most Westerners, you've only played Final Fantasy VII and don't care for the rest because "it's not Final Fantasy VII!!!111one!!111"..megaman24681012 said:
Auto-battle is pretty much exactly like "Pressing Attack" in the previous games. What the fuck is so bad about that now, hm? FFVII had "Attack", "Magic", "Item".. All the usual JRPG battle traits. You don't HAVE to use Auto-battle at all, ever. You can easily select your own attacks. But the choice is THERE. Simply removing it would then anger others who DID use it often/regularly/sometimes. Hell, there's an option in the settings to have the cursor automatically point to Auto OR Abilities. You can completely disregard Auto-battle even existing. So, your argument itself is flawed.
Actually, a lot of your argument is flawed. Saying "SE is indifferent to the Final Fantasy MAIN series now" either shows you're an incredibly butthurt FFVII fanboy or you just can't tolerate there being spin-offs that people WILL enjoy, whether you like it or not.
I likes me some Final Fantasy, but I don't exactly want Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time or Ring of Fates.. I didn't really care for FFVIII that much.. But it exists and people enjoy it. They aren't WRONG. They just like playing it, whereas I prefer to play a different game.
Please grow up..
I wonder why everyone will always start a circular argument about the auto-battle system...
Boo autobattle->that's just silly. Everything is just spamming X before FFX-2/FF13 came along->but it's still boring->then just disable it and do it manually->it's too fast->that's your fault->it shouldn't be,that's why the system is flawed->wut are you talking about? my friends and their dog can do well, if not perfect
But seriously, I hope the difficulty system will be hard enough for people to stop relying on auto-battle...
Boo autobattle->that's just silly. Everything is just spamming X before FFX-2/FF13 came along->but it's still boring->then just disable it and do it manually->it's too fast->that's your fault->it shouldn't be,that's why the system is flawed->wut are you talking about? my friends and their dog can do well, if not perfect
But seriously, I hope the difficulty system will be hard enough for people to stop relying on auto-battle...
Again, you misread. I don't "love" them, nor do I hate them. Apparently quotation marks aren't a valid form of "this is what people seem to believe". I did the same for "bad content". Because that's subjective. Just because a group of people think something, doesn't mean the other group has to as well. In fact, that other group is laughing at the "haters", whilst pulling silly faces.Akalistos said:
I'd love it too, but why would you want to take something away from them like that? People need to ***** about something!KaWHY deSHOE said:
Personally I never used the auto-battle system, I demand strategy in my wins!
I knew the first comment would be negative. FF13 IMO does not deserve any of the shit it gets. The battle system is prefectly fine to me and it only took half an hour to get adjusted to the basics. I had it all down by the end of the third chapter, and I've enjoyed it from the beginning.Sky Captanio said:
Screw the haters. I'm getting the next game anyway.
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Is that a new cell phone company or something?
You must've missed quoting my Cloud will be Emo and Grimdark, but just in case the question is intended for this:Blitzwing said:
Square Enix will try EVERYTHING to make a game as Rated T(inb4 T=Terrible jokes)as possible.
They're also bound to remove or censor:
-Briggs and Wedge dying
-Gambling(Sayonara, chocobo race)
-Aerith's unfortunate death
-Guns
I haven't played FF7 past BarretVs the other guy, but I already read in another site a huge list of which contents they're bound remove just for Rated T
HAHAHAHA OK!Fiz_The_Toaster said:
My gameplay is kinda like that, except it's more "I need to think of a new approach on how to tackle this person" since almost every battle is bound to be the same (but my personal fave is Vanille, Hope and Lightning) which is why I end up trying to maximizing the potential of every character.Fiz_The_Toaster said:
It's a self-fulfilling goal that I try...