Final Fantasy XIII Demo is Enormous

[Jumplion]

Condense

But let's get back to why the whole "change is bad" feel is stupid; people saying that it's fine for a game to be multi-disked.

While I can accept a 2-disked game every so not very very often (very very VERY not often), and a 3 by a very small stretch, to say that it's perfectly fine for games to be multi-disked is absolutely ludicrous.

Think, how would people treat an author if the author made the book so that you finish a book, then you have to get up and read the other. You know, i'd think they'd call it A FREAKING SEQUEL!!

isnt that the matrix... or the lord of the rings...
if they made games about the main plotline of those books/movies (and BTW i know they have) then by your logic, 3 games are better than 1 game on 3 disks...

as a long standing jrpg fan (among other things) i really dont mind multiple disks. just means that theres more than can fit on one disk and thats no bad thing.

Uh....what? Are you proving my point or trying to go against it? Depending on what the 3 games are, then yes, I'd prefer 3 games rather than 1 game on 3 disks. But it would depend on the game, because technically you'd still get 3 disks either way. If it's 3 different games then sure, I'd rather have 3 games than 1 game on 3 disks.

If the developers have a ton of content, good for them, but there really is no reason to have 3 disks. Maybe 2, that'll be a stretch, but there should be no reason why we can't technologically get past the whole multi-disking.

 

[UsefulPlayer 1]

I would like to play FFXIII and I have an Xbox 360.

Square Enix is going hard on this I must say.

 

[Meado]

I don't get the problem people have with miltiple discs. Lost Oddessy had 4 of them, and it was actually cheaper than the short-arse, hack-n-slash/run-n-guns next to it, so cost and value for money arn't the problem. They provide a normal sized case that can hold all the discs anyway, so space isn't it. Maybe you're just too lazy to get off your fat arse for twenty seconds to change the disc every thirteen hours.
My point? Put FFXIII on two discs Squenix. Is it a coincidence that your games really started going downhill when you squished them from four discs (FF9) to one(FF10)?

This may or may not be true, but I heard that the Lost Odessy packaging had one disk in a special sleeve while the other three were crammed into the disk slot which caused alot of scratched disks. Just because LO had 4 disks doesn't mean that it should've had 4 disks in the first place.

Yes, one disc was in a paper sleeve that tucked in just in front of the manual. But there are two types of 360 case. You have the standard one disc box, and there's the one designed to hold 3 discs. The only way they could be scratched while in the case is if you placed them atop each other and started roughly spinning them on the peg.

 

[RikSharp]

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isnt that the matrix... or the lord of the rings...
if they made games about the main plotline of those books/movies (and BTW i know they have) then by your logic, 3 games are better than 1 game on 3 disks...

as a long standing jrpg fan (among other things) i really dont mind multiple disks. just means that theres more than can fit on one disk and thats no bad thing.

Uh....what? Are you proving my point or trying to go against it? Depending on what the 3 games are, then yes, I'd prefer 3 games rather than 1 game on 3 disks. But it would depend on the game, because technically you'd still get 3 disks either way. If it's 3 different games then sure, I'd rather have 3 games than 1 game on 3 disks.

If the developers have a ton of content, good for them, but there really is no reason to have 3 disks. Maybe 2, that'll be a stretch, but there should be no reason why we can't technologically get past the whole multi-disking.

i was neither agreeing nor disagreeing, was using the two franchises as an example, admittedly not very well.
LOtR could easily justify 3 games, the amount of content within would warrant it but the matrix should be condensed into a multi disk game because the sequels dont stand too well on their own.
i think what i'm getting at is is it depends on the game wether it should be one long (multi disked) game or episodic short games.

since Final Fantasy VII is mentioned a few times above we'll use that.
should it have been released as Final Fantasy VII parts 1, 2 and 3? and should .hack have been one multi disked game?

 

[Jumplion]

i was neither agreeing nor disagreeing, was using the two franchises as an example, admittedly not very well.
LOtR could easily justify 3 games, the amount of content within would warrant it but the matrix should be condensed into a multi disk game because the sequels dont stand too well on their own.
i think what i'm getting at is is it depends on the game wether it should be one long (multi disked) game or episodic short games.

since Final Fantasy VII is mentioned a few times above we'll use that.
should it have been released as Final Fantasy VII parts 1, 2 and 3? and should .hack have been one multi disked game?

Ah, I see, sorry for misinterpreting what you said.

And you do bring up an interesting point, some games probably don't have enough content to warrant a sequel or some have so much content but a sequel wouldn't be appropriate.

 

[scotth266]

Hell did you people hear FFXIII will have NO LEVELING! and your party members are AI Controlled, You also heal after every battle.

They bitched so damn HARD when FFXII simply made it so you could move around on an open map. Is this going to give brain damage to people? I dunno.

Wait, what? Got a source on that? Not that I don't trust you, but what the hell? No leveling? This seems like it isn't a RPG anymore....

 

[Levaetus]

Ummm, this sounds dumb...how big is the entire game intended to be?

 

[scotth266]

Hell did you people hear FFXIII will have NO LEVELING! and your party members are AI Controlled, You also heal after every battle.

They bitched so damn HARD when FFXII simply made it so you could move around on an open map. Is this going to give brain damage to people? I dunno.

Wait, what? Got a source on that? Not that I don't trust you, but what the hell? No leveling? This seems like it isn't a RPG anymore....

Apparently it was posted on some blog from some guy who played the demo so it could be wrong. No definitive source so take it with a grain of salt.

Jesus man, don't scare me like that then! I mean, I was really worried!

On that note, does it go the FFXII route, or is going to go back to FFX? As in the combat and areas and such.

 

[scotth266]

Oh boy this is a doozy.

Right the game is exactly like FFXII with no change between the world map and combat except when you go to combat I think you stop moving, but no transitional screen.

The world is FFXII Style, combat seems... new.

You're given a certain amount of points and each action costs points that slowly build up and lets you chain move (making it more cinematic and flowing)

Yeesh. Sounds rather bizzare, though I think I've heard of a similar points-based system before... I just can't remember the title.

 

[RikSharp]

the points based game you are thinking of is legend of legaia on the psx
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[MisterColeman]

Couldn't square have an xbox-live version where the cinematics are streamed over xbox live and not hosted on the xbox itself?

 

[dommyuk]

Couldn't square have an xbox-live version where the cinematics are streamed over xbox live and not hosted on the xbox itself?

and if the player doesn't have XBOX Live?

 

[Emperor Inferno]

Of course it's big. You have to play FF for like an hour to get any real combat in, after all.

 

[Kenjitsuka]

All Final Fantasies starting with part 7 have been mostly beautifully rendered cutscenes.
Yay FF

 

[randomrob]

Well that's the point of final fantasy games isn't it? they're always absolutely bloody massive.

 

[Upturned Walrus]

Shit I could get like 3-4 movies from Xbox Live and that would only add up to about 2-3 gigs but two movies on FFXIII are 4 gigs jesus christ.

 

[Daedalus1942]

Most likely it has the intro cinematic which always is a long time in an FF and another one that may not even be game related (Story wise, it could be like an extended trailer placed after you go as far as you can in the demo sort of thing that shows snippits of the game etc)

Either way... It kinda looks like the 360 is getting a bit of a shaft on this game... However...

"Begun, The continuation of the Flame Wars have..."

I hope the 360 does get shafted for this game. It shits me that already PSN users have to have the game quality lessened just so Microsoft supporters can play it. I think they should leave the content as is for ps3 (in all it's flaslessness and grandiose) and just give CrapboxPleasefixme owners multiple discs, like back in the good ole days of FFVIII.