Final Fantasy XIV Not Coming to 360s Because of Xbox Live
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HA! I love it. Hopefully this will be the kick in the balls Microsoft needs to realize that they need to open-up their system a little bit. I get that "they're a company and they wanna make money" and all that jazz, but seriously, this is Microsoft we're talking about. I think they can afford to not make direct profit on a couple features of the 360 and still get by.
Frankly I wish all 3 consoles would open-up a little. As a PC gamer, it was disappointing when Borderlands came out and I wasn't able to play with any of my friends because they all got it on 360 (PC connectivity issues aside, of course), and any other multiplayer game it's the same way. I wanna play it on my PC, but my friends are all console gamers, so I basically have to form a completely new set of friends for every online game I play because there's this wall between me and my RL friends when I get online.
Wow, that turned into quite the rant. >.>
Frankly I wish all 3 consoles would open-up a little. As a PC gamer, it was disappointing when Borderlands came out and I wasn't able to play with any of my friends because they all got it on 360 (PC connectivity issues aside, of course), and any other multiplayer game it's the same way. I wanna play it on my PC, but my friends are all console gamers, so I basically have to form a completely new set of friends for every online game I play because there's this wall between me and my RL friends when I get online.
Wow, that turned into quite the rant. >.>
What's the matter? Can't handle the truth behind your beloved console? Face it, he is 100% right.Sparrow said:
FF13 is just a terrible starting point, I must say. And yes I know that @Eruanno said he didn't care, but I'm saying so anywayelvor0 said:
So, can someone help me to understand this?
Squenix doesn't want to put it on xbox live because of the "closed" enviroment. Closed in this case I'm assuming equalling the fact that you have to pay for it, therefore it's not open to everyone.
But didn't you also have to pay to play XI? I don't know, I had no interest in XI, and I have no interest in XIV. Just curious as to why they're making a big deal.
Squenix doesn't want to put it on xbox live because of the "closed" enviroment. Closed in this case I'm assuming equalling the fact that you have to pay for it, therefore it's not open to everyone.
But didn't you also have to pay to play XI? I don't know, I had no interest in XI, and I have no interest in XIV. Just curious as to why they're making a big deal.
Eh I know exactly what "closed" policy they are referring to.
FFXIV will COST money to play, just like EVERY MMorpg.
The problem is, XBOX Live ALSO costs a price.
So the math becomes the problem... Xbox users would be paying approx. $15 to Square to play the game and $9 to Xbox to play on LIVE.. which means most likely NOBODY is going to play the Xbox version when they can just play the PC or PS3 version for $10 cheaper.
Square probably wanted Xbox to allow a "Free Xbox Live" system around their game so that you can use all the benefits of LIve without paying for a subscription while playing this game.
FFXIV will COST money to play, just like EVERY MMorpg.
The problem is, XBOX Live ALSO costs a price.
So the math becomes the problem... Xbox users would be paying approx. $15 to Square to play the game and $9 to Xbox to play on LIVE.. which means most likely NOBODY is going to play the Xbox version when they can just play the PC or PS3 version for $10 cheaper.
Square probably wanted Xbox to allow a "Free Xbox Live" system around their game so that you can use all the benefits of LIve without paying for a subscription while playing this game.
The fact that we need an entire wikipedia article devoted to listing all of the final fantasy games simply goes to show that we have far more than anyone could ever need or want.
There is a point where this needs to stop and we have clearly passed it.
There is a point where this needs to stop and we have clearly passed it.
This is great news! FF was the worst game of all!
All those stereotypes!
That game sucked big time!
All those stereotypes!
That game sucked big time!
A review of a game that was in Alpha stage?JourneyThroughHell said:
Psh, take the preview with a pinch of salt.
Also, why are people providing their reviews/opinions of FFXIV based on FF13, they are two separate games.
Feeling bad for FFXIV, it appears to be attacked from all sides constantly.
your either wilfully ignorant or trolling which is it?Sparrow said:
Nah, Microsoft want full control of the games. Want to release DLC or a patch? put it through Microsoft quality control and approval teams. want to allow wider access to the internet or more adresses than Microsoft feels comfortable with? forget it. Want to add new content without give MS a cut? very bad.HyenaThePirate said:
Microsoft want to preserve the Xbox environment and feel, they also want to be sure all released product works. that's a closed environment. Sony at least allows companies to put out their patches quickly.
For an MMO putting every patch through approval would be a disaster many have weekly patching for goodness sake.
Outlined that way, from a customer experience standpoint, where is the downside?Unrulyhandbag said:
Microsoft wants to run DLC and patches through their Quality control!? That doesn't sound like a BAD idea to me, rather than just letting anybody run whatever they like. What happens if a patch is released that causes problems beyond the scope of the game? Say, for example, a similar situation that Heavy Rain had with the PS3 where PS3's around the world came a tumbling down? Some companies like square probably wouldn't be of issue, but you never know. If they break something or give you a patch that causes major bugs in your system with or without the game running, that causes problems for Microsoft, so I can certainly justify any position of them sticking to their guns about running patches and such through their teams first. And MMO's don't have necessarily a great track record with patches.. as a PC player i've dealt with LOADS of patches that caused all manner of issues even to my device drivers. When that happens, who do I go to to have it sorted out?
Sony by the way is just as stringent in regards to the PS3. Hell you can't even run LINUX on it anymore. In fact, one of the reasons the PS3 lags in game technology is that Sony demands that games be designed a specific way and to have a hand in themselves. The fact that they've had less issues with dealing with third party developers over something like this is a simple matter of logistics... they don't have as many games in development that aren't with companies staffed by veteran programmers for the system.
So if Microsoft wants a closed environment that demands a certain level of quality for a game, how is that a bad thing? No, I think this all comes down to money quite frankly, as such things always do. It is in Square's best interest to release a version on the xbox 360 considering how large the ownership numbers are for that console... otherwise they'd be stuck trying to release a title to only half a gaming market.. on the one platform that isn't dominating the industry. The PS2 days of being THE system to have are long, long gone. Back in those days, you could release a title for the PS2 exclusively and still be hitting 80% of the gaming market. Now, releasing a title on the PS3 is tantamount to releasing a game only to at BEST half of a potential market, and lets be honest, we all know that an even further half (or more) have no interest in playing a Final Fantasy MMO. Sales will have to rely almost entirely on the PC players to step up to the plate and with a new expansion on the horizon for WoW, that doesn't make for a very promising situation.
Meh, for me money, I'm probably thinking that most likely we'll see an "eleventh hour" save of some sort with an agreement of some kind taking place that allows the game to the xbox360. it might not be at LAUNCH, per se, but eventually, the game will make its way to the Xbox. It has too. There is too much money at stake.