First Date, Gifts From The Guy

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Amaury_games

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Duck Sandwich said:
SaetonChapelle said:
Men: Do you feel the need to impress the female by giving gifts? Do you find it annoying if the girl attempts to help pay the bill, or refuses what you're trying to give her?
1)I do, to some extent. But not right away. It's more like, if I'm on vacation, or I'm at someplace I know she never goes to, and I see something I think she'll like from that place (like some kind of souvenir), I'll buy it.

2) I don't find it annoying at all. I think it shows that she enjoys my company, and not that she just wants to be with me so she can have free food/drinks. On the other hand, I'm not really opposed to me paying for the whole thing, especially if I'm the one who made the initial plans for the date in the first place. As for a girl refusing what I give her, I might feel dejected to some extent, but in the end, I respect her choice.
I'm a man (without "gut punch" /Linkara reference), and I'm too lazy to write right now, so basically this up here. Sums up quite well the first thoughts I had when I saw your story and question.
Honestly, I found a bit weird that the guy you went out with tried to shove so many gifts right at the first date... or so many at one date for that matter. Probably, he got nervous. ^_^ I can relate to getting nervous and being silly without realizing it until later and feeling like a tool then.
 

DuelLadyS

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I'm put off when people refuse gifts- but only when they're proper gifts, as in I picked it out and bought it already- offering to grab something on the spot is different.

The game is one thing... a cheap used game is a nice switch from ye standard 'flowers for date'... but I would've been REALLY creeped out by the continued attempts. I'd feel like he was trying to buy my affections, or worse- that he'd 'expect' something for his generosity by the end of the night.

As for who pays on a date- I am of the 'the asker pays' group. If you as me for coffee/movie/whatever, I'm assuming you're buying, unless you specify up front you're not. I'd find it the height of rudeness for someone to make the plans, but then expect me to foot the bill- you don't know much I've got, I might've made very different plans if I'd known I was buying.
 

Teoes

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Hazy said:
That explains things much better, thanks. I'm not necessarily going to agree with the full sentiment but I can at least see better where you're coming from now.

Res Plus said:
oooh look the age old battle between forth right young buck and posturing liberal hipster is playing out in the post above, score draw as ever I reckon. :)
That's hilarious! I'll give you 'posturing' and 'liberal', but I've never been hipster in my life. You take that back or there'll be fisticuffs.
 

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Teoes said:
Hazy said:
That explains things much better, thanks. I'm not necessarily going to agree with the full sentiment but I can at least see better where you're coming from now.
Anytime! My bad for not making it clearer in the first place.
 

GonzoGamer

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My mom raised me to never be in debt. Not just with dates, but if I ate when visiting my friends as a kid or something, she's be adamant that I'd have to bring food or something with me the next time I went there.

So I'd feel really awkward if a woman I went out with (I'm a lesbian) would buy me gifts, or refuse to split the bill.

I know a couple who are really generous. They will just give you stuff (which they really can't even afford) if you visit them, I mentioned how good the bottle of expensive tequila was, and they ended up giving me the whole almost-full bottle. I feel really awkward hanging out with those two.

I wouldn't give gifts on a first date either. Unless maybe it was something that was free for me or cheap and they expressed interest. I did give some roaches to a lady once. (I have a colony)

But I would do that for someone I wasn't interested romantically too.
The roaches top mine. The oddest gift i ever gave a girl on a first date was a haircut. She found out that I can cut hair, mentioned that she wanted hers done, so I offered. Chalk would be the second weirdest. But usually for me, first date gifts were (I've been married for several years mind you) mix tapes/CDs(yea, I've been married that long), an obscure movie I copied, cookies I baked, maybe a book, but usually something homemade. I agree totally that first date gifts should be low on price if not relatively free.

OP, yes the gifts are meant to impress you. We're trying to show that we listen to you about what you like and are willing to put in the time and effort to do something thoughtful with the information. However, it is understandable to be weirded out by especially extravagant gifts on the very first date. I would feel like I was put under pressure, not to "put out" or anything but to impress and you should feel more relaxed on a first date.
As for paying the bill, I always did that. However, if it was a girl that asked me out, I would've been comfortable going dutch or letting her pay. You understand that we have to offer to pay, it's practically hardwired into our dna at this point...well, most of us at least.
 

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Shouldnt give gifts on a first date, just to awkward. Maybe on the second date you could get something that she mentioned, though nothing expensive. Just to show you listened and took note of what she said. A nice silly gift. Again nothing expensive.

As for paying for meals, i would pay, but i appreciate a woman that asks to pay half, but i would decline, if she insists then i would say yes.

I think its more important to treat her right, listen and not be to over bearing. Then for the second date, if you get one, you can arrange to do something she would enjoy. :)
 

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GonzoGamer said:
Lieju said:
I did give some roaches to a lady once. (I have a colony)

But I would do that for someone I wasn't interested romantically too.
The roaches top mine. The oddest gift i ever gave a girl on a first date was a haircut.
Well, I better get the important questions out of the way first. Like 'is she okay with invertebrates and reptiles?'. Because when I show my flat to them it would be nice if they were impressed by my animal-collection, rather than running away screaming.
 

GonzoGamer

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Lieju said:
GonzoGamer said:
Lieju said:
I did give some roaches to a lady once. (I have a colony)

But I would do that for someone I wasn't interested romantically too.
The roaches top mine. The oddest gift i ever gave a girl on a first date was a haircut.
Well, I better get the important questions out of the way first. Like 'is she okay with invertebrates and reptiles?'. Because when I show my flat to them it would be nice if they were impressed by my animal-collection, rather than running away screaming.
lol. Having known a couple of her previous boyfriends, I would say yes, she seemed very comfortable with them. Have you ever actually had a girl run away screaming? They should at least try and be polite.
The more I think about it, the haircut was a great first date gift, I usually don't get to do so much touching on a first date.
 

krazykidd

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Nope . Before , if i was i buy a gift for a girl it's to get into her pants ( it worked ). Now i'm older and less naive , so i can get into their pants without spending a penny ( on her ) , which i do . I believe in equality of the sexes , so i'm not going out of my way to impress anyone . Which ironically impresses them ( Women , how do they work?). No gifts , no surprises , if that doesn't bode wel for them , i flush em , there are many more( less complicated ) fish in the sea.

Now , if i had oodles of cash , i wouldn't mind using my money to my advantage , but i don't so i find another vantage advantage to exploite, or find someone easier . Meh .
 

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I give my girlfriend gifts whenever the situation suits it, my girlfriend's life is shit so I give her as much love as I can. Though to be honest I'd love to start being the one getting gifts, she doesn't have a job but even home made macaroni art would make me happy.
 

Lieju

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GonzoGamer said:
Have you ever actually had a girl run away screaming? They should at least try and be polite.
Not a girl, no, but I have run into some pretty arachnophobic people. Not just 'eek, spiders are cross!', but legitimate phobias.
 

Angelous Wang

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For dates nothing more than flowers or maybe chocolates/sweets, though fully willing to pay for date itself (tickets/meals ect).

I'm not really one for buying gifts other than birthdays and other annual special days. That said if I was going out with a girl and we were in a shop and she really, really liked something (and it wasn't expensive) I'd probably get it for her.
 

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SaetonChapelle said:
Do you find it annoying if the girl attempts to help pay the bill
As a guy, I would expect (and want) to pay the , but I'd hope she would offer to split the cost. Regarding gifts, while I may go for flowers, I'd only get a gift if its someone I've known for a while.
 

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I wouldn't give gifts myself. On a first date you are getting to know each other and giving gifts and paying for meals and other things comes off like you are trying to buy your dates affection and don't respect them to treat them enough to same as yourself. Besides if they wanted you to be buying them stuff on the first date I wouldn't want to be with them to begin with since it implies either they believe in gender roles or they feel I am less than them and owe them just for their time which is insulting.
 

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SaetonChapelle said:
So I just got done with a first date with a nice young man, although in the end we both decided that it was probably for the best to remain friends. That being said, I have a curious questions for both the males and females of the forum.

During the date, the man in question decided to purchase me a video game which of course I was happy about (Psychonauts finally). However, I always feel awkward when receiving gifts, even during Christmas. When I attempted to refuse, he said that it was annoying when a girl refuses a mans gifts during a date. As the date continued he kept trying to give me more items, but I was able to refuse all of them.

So, men and a women, what are your views on giving gifts on a first date?

Men: Do you feel the need to impress the female by giving gifts? Do you find it annoying if the girl attempts to help pay the bill, or refuses what you're trying to give her?

Female: How do you feel about receiving gifts? Do you feel it's rude to refuse a gift? At one point is it taken too far?
I think you did the right thing in refusing the gifts. A single gift on a date is normal, especially the first date. It creates a memento to remind each other of how it all started (though you should pick this gift up before you go on the date, not during). However, the way he just kept trying to buy you stuff tells me one of two things (since I wasn't there I don't know which). Either A: he is very awkward around women and he wanted to impress you (more likely) or B: he thinks that by buying you stuff he is purchasing your emotions (less likely, but still a common occurrence).

I personally try to keep my first date gifts between the 20 and 50 dollar range. I don't want the gift to be too expensive (as to seem like I'm trying to buy her feelings) nor do I want it to be too cheap to feel like I didn't think the relationship would last.
 

The Artificially Prolonged

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The gift of being in my presence is sufficient for a first date :p

Seriously though beyond maybe flowers or paying for drinks I think giving gifts to someone on a first date is a little weird.
 

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I usually abide by the rule that one person pays for the meal and the other the activity (movies, drinks, dancing whatever). I wouldn't object to a small gift bought in the course of a date as a memento but arriving to the date with a gift is pretty cheesy IMHO. I don't date people who insist on paying for everything (or insist that I do either) so that really isn't a problem for me.
 

Stasisesque

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My boyfriend bought me a small box of chocolates on our first official date, though we had been unofficially dating for over a year (friends with benefits situation turned serious). I found that very sweet, but we have known each other for years and I had specifically mentioned many times that I had always wanted to be bought chocolates "just because". In this instance, him producing this gift meant a lot to me and I knew I had made the right decision in moving the relationship forward.

If, however, he had been a stranger before the date or a casual acquaintance I would have most likely been put off. Gifts generally make me feel as if I owe the gift giver, and while this is fine with loved ones, in someone I barely know I'd just feel incredibly uncomfortable. When I was a teenager, a boy I knew bought me presents because he had a crush on me, but I didn't reciprocate. Accepting the gifts made me feel awful, but rejecting them would have made him feel bad, so I accepted and then had to try and explain that while I was flattered, I couldn't be bought, so to speak. Luckily there were no long-term repercussions, and we managed to remain friends for years.

As for paying for dates, I've never found it to be a problem. I've paid for dates, my dates have paid, or we've split the bill depending on the circumstances. It's just never crossed my mind that anyone would get worked up about payment.
 

nekoali

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Most of the time I would be very uncomfortable accepting gifts on a first date. The only real thing I have made an exception for was for flowers. I suppose maybe a small box of chocolates, depending on the timing of the date. If someone is wanting to buy me a bunch of stuff during the date though, it strikes me that they are more trying to impress me with their money and what they can do for me, rather than who they are. And really, I'm more interested in what kind of person they are on the first couple of dates. Trying to offer, or worse yet force, gifts on me says to me they are more obsessed with money or 'man be provider' attitude. Which I find uncomfortable.

As far as who's paying for the date/dinner/tickets/whatever... My rule be it the first or fifty-first date is usually whoever asked should be the one offering. It was their idea to go out, and ask someone else out. They shouldn't do that unless they can cover it for both of you. Because a lot of times I don't have money to go do things, so it makes me uncomfortable if I get asked to go do something and I have to turn it down just because I'm poor. Now if I do get asked, and I do have the money to cover my own way I will usually at least offer to pay for my own.
 

Mr Fixit

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I wouldn't go into a first date planning on getting her a gift, but if the date was going well & she happened to find something she wanted I would at least offer to get it for her & then buy it if she did not completely object. If she wanted to get something for me I would probably be fine with it as long as it was something simple & inexpensive, but I don't let anyone buy expensive stuff for me. I also have no problems splitting the diner bill or letting her pay for the whole thing if she wants, I learned a long time ago to not argue with a woman over petty things like that.