Cronenberg's film is on another planet in terms of quality to the other films but that is the one that gets the hate. Really, The Wizard is a fine example of the art of cinema but eXistenZ is horrible?LiquidGrape said:The lack of respect for David Cronenberg in this thread disturbs me.
You know, I rented that on a whim ages ago and watched it all the way through. To this day, I have NO idea what it was about, and that's after reading the wikipedia article on it. Great film though, and you're right, could easily have been a video game.ckeymel said:So it's not an actual video game movie, but the entire time I was watching Eden Log (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1087842/) I couldn't help but draw parallels to how videogames unfold and the story - it was ripe for being made into or made from a videogame.
It's one thing if a film is weird, but another if the plot goes nowhere other than a BIIIG STORY TWIST that almost seemed like a excuse for the plot going nowhere. And if the Dialogues are horrible. And it proves to have as much knowledge about videogames as other films have when they show a kid wildly swinging around a Playstation 2 Controller with 8-bit "boop-be-doop" sounds (Made even worse by the constant "I'm a Game Designer!" Lines).More Fun To Compute said:eXistenZ is a really well made film. I wonder what the people who hate it thought of Cronenberg's other films Videodrome and Naked Lunch. Maybe they just hate it because it is weird and has what can be called an "anti gaming" message.
if they remade Last Starfighter today, it'd probably involve Army Recruiters showing up at kids' front doors when they unlocked Call of Duty achievements: "You're pretty good at pwning noobs, son. Now, Uncle Sam wants you to pwn the enemies of freedom!" I can't decide if that sounds like the best thing ever, or the worst.
Definitely agree. The plot had stagnated about halfway through, and so by the end I found myself apathetic about the whole situation. The "twist"... honestly at that point I yawned and said, "really? you're going with that? that's not a twist, that's a cop-out".Frybird said:It's one thing if a film is weird, but another if the plot goes nowhere other than a BIIIG STORY TWIST that almost seemed like a excuse for the plot going nowhere. And if the Dialogues are horrible. And it proves to have as much knowledge about videogames as other films have when they show a kid wildly swinging around a Playstation 2 Controller with 8-bit "boop-be-doop" sounds (Made even worse by the constant "I'm a Game Designer!" Lines).
The King of Kong is more of a documentary than a feature film. I loved it and wish it would show again on G4 so I can grab it on my DVR.Pipotchi said:What about The King of Kong? that was a great Videogame related movie
A big story twist that whole movie was a foreshadowing of. Right.Frybird said:It's one thing if a film is weird, but another if the plot goes nowhere other than a BIIIG STORY TWIST that almost seemed like a excuse for the plot going nowhere.
Which is a very accurate aside about how horrible the dialogue is/was in games.And if the Dialogues are horrible.
It is a science fiction film so of course the technology is nothing like real technology. eXistZ is about drama management AI and virtual reality that is as convincing as reality. Two technologies that people who are into games should know about but are not even attempted by most games and may not even be technically possible to do well in 50 years time. The film is about players dropped into a realistic dramatic role playing game having no idea what they are doing. They say stupid things that they think their character's might say, "I'm a superstar game designer, guh huh." They have inconsistent and bizarre motivations that would have a dungeon master rolling his eyes and the game AI struggles to cope with them.And it proves to have as much knowledge about videogames as other films have when they show a kid wildly swinging around a Playstation 2 Controller with 8-bit "boop-be-doop" sounds (Made even worse by the constant "I'm a Game Designer!" Lines).
It may not be his best film but it is still a lot better than the best of the rest in this narrow criteria.I like Cronenberg, but for things like Eastern Promises, History of Violence and The Fly (one of the best horror movies ever made). But even when you compare it to stuff like Naked Lunch, eXistenZ is STILL pretty unremarkable and tame.