Matt_LRR said:
Tenmar said:
Given that you keep reposting that same Bayonetta video, and the "Anita Sarkeesian, college graduate" video comments on it as well, I want to ask if you understand why advocating for the creation of voluntary-use safe-spaces for women is neither anti-feminist, nor tantamount to segregation as it was historically practised along racial (or sexual, for that matter) lines?
-m
Well one good reason I link the video is cause not everyone actually sees it. Just cause you or specific people see it doesn't mean others involved in this post have seen the video. Second, that's actually the first time I've link the other following videos on this forum. Other people I notice have linked said video by "instig8ive journalist" but it's a first for me.
Thirdly, nice loaded question.
I want to ask if you understand why advocating for the creation of voluntary-use safe-spaces for women is neither anti-feminist, nor tantamount to segregation as it was historically practised along racial (or sexual, for that matter) lines?
That is its own ticking time bomb that blows up on me no matter how I answer cause it makes the logical leap that admitting there is a problem in the first place. To which honestly ignores the core of the issue when it comes to the development and creation of video games. Honestly if it really is a problem and people want to promote segregation again then that's an issue with governments. Local, state and federal. Not the video game industry because if we go with her argument that playing Bayonetta encourages people to molest women then where is the actual research to support that link? We have already proven time and time again that as more realistic and violent video games have been published violent crime rates have either stayed the same or actually decreased. It's not as big of a problem as you think it is and I certainly don't see Anita making that change in San Francisco.
Honestly to me this whole bugbear issue comes down to this. I really don't think anyone who is involved in the video game industry is actually or actively sexist. Cause if they were then those people would most likely have gotten fired for treatment of their fellow employees and I really doubt the CEO is going to be directly involved in the games development(although one could argue that they are in part involved in green lighting projects but to counter that there is a reason there is a board of directors). I'm here to enjoy my hobby of playing video games and not deal with the mindless drama of a person who sees ghosts where they aren't there and takes it upon herself to promote this conspiracy that at it's logical extension means that there are malevolent forces employed by sites like The Escapist, Destructoid and video game developers like Nintendo, Riot Games that are actively pushing some sexist agenda.
Instead what is actually there are teams of developers, producers and hard working people trying to make the games they like and how they want it to be. And with that they should honestly be free to create the game they want to create and take the praise and criticism so they learn more about themselves and how to produce a better game. Cause when you have activists trying to control the production of the game that just causes major delays in the development and where these activists never give the benefit of the doubt. Okay the new Aliens game lacks women, didn't anyone give benefit of the doubt that they just didn't think about making a female playable character? When you go down that line it sucks out all the fun and entertainment that video games are meant to be.
I wanna play the game and get the experience that the developers want me to experience for better or worse. I want to make the decision with my dollars on which narratives I want to experience and which ones I don't. I want developers and writers to be free in what they write and accept the criticism they are going to get and have an actual filter from the pointless flash animations and pictures to the actual criticisms that will make them better at their job without having to think of political correct bullshit but instead think of how to get more polygons out of the Unreal 4 engine or the Wii U dev kit.
Matt_LRR said:
I'd argue it's both, actually. Male-only playable characters is nonsensical in the lore, but it is also potentially alienating (heh) the women who might otherwise want to play the game. There's no good reason for female characters not to have been included in the first place, even if you don't consider the lore. The lore just makes it twice as unreasonable.
-m
EDIT:This is why I love you man, you are hilarious. Yeah I feel in the mood for terrible puns. Damn you Chuggaconroy!
Also to note, I'm not an Alien guy. Like I said, I saw Aliens as a kid and knew that series was NOT for me. I'll stuck with the Star Wars and Star Trek cause at least the narrative prepared me for the bigotry and violence coming and not that level of savagery. So I don't know jack about the lore.
EDIT 2: Gotta run for a bit so I won't be able to directly respond to more people who quote me for some time. So if I don't respond please don't feel bad, just having to deal with time like any other person.