Former DICE CEO Describes Wii as "A Virus"

Aura Guardian

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Gigaguy64 said:
like many people have said, all consoles are toys.
And so what people think the wii doesn't make "True Games" anymore.
Yea they have made many Novelty games but if that's all they think Nintendo is capable of now?
They obviously haven't played TvC, SSBB, or Muramasa:TDB and they must not know about
Metroid: Other M or Monster Hunters Tri.
No they have not. This generation of gamers focus more about online shooters and bioware rpgs rather than jrpgs and original non-fps games.
 

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considering that during its 3rd year in the market it had 7 of the top 10 selling games of the year as platform exclusives hardly adds up to people not playing with their Wii
 

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Aura Guardian said:
Gigaguy64 said:
like many people have said, all consoles are toys.
And so what people think the wii doesn't make "True Games" anymore.
Yea they have made many Novelty games but if that's all they think Nintendo is capable of now?
They obviously haven't played TvC, SSBB, or Muramasa:TDB and they must not know about
Metroid: Other M or Monster Hunters Tri.
No they have not. This generation of gamers focus more about online shooters and bioware rps rather than jrpgs and original non-fps games.
Its such a shame too.
There missing out on some of the best games iv ever played.
 

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ryuutchi said:
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On subject, this is nothing new, really. Of course there are some good games on the Wii, but they are drowned by remake upon remake, and cheap cashin's, (see Mario and Sonic.)
Entirely unlike the remakes and sequels on the other consoles...
I never said that there weren't some bad remakes and sequels on PC's, 360's or PS3. It's just that whenever you think of remakes and sequels that never advance a series onwards, you will think of Sonic and Mario, who have both spawned awful games.
 

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Got to agree with him on this, truth be told. Whilst the Wii does have its share of "proper" games (Dead Space: Extraction, Resident Evil and so forth), its main appeal is not as a gaming system along the lines of the 360, PS3 or PC. I would suspect a good number of the Wii consoles have sold not to be used on a regular basis outside of Wii Fit + Similar "Games", and to give an activity during parties or on a family night.
A lot of the games you see for the Wii are compilation packs similar to Wii Play, platform games like Super Mario Galaxy and in general aimed at a much younger market than the other consoles. Mario Kart, six thousand Sonic games, you get the idea.
Whilst I wouldn't dismiss it as a "toy" personally, I won't be surprised when in a few years the preowned market is flooded by Wiis that people don't want anymore. I'd suspect it's probably starting to happen now but give it some time and there'll be more and more second hand Wiis floating around than you can waggle a wiim... shake a stick at.
 

Aura Guardian

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Gigaguy64 said:
Aura Guardian said:
Gigaguy64 said:
like many people have said, all consoles are toys.
And so what people think the wii doesn't make "True Games" anymore.
Yea they have made many Novelty games but if that's all they think Nintendo is capable of now?
They obviously haven't played TvC, SSBB, or Muramasa:TDB and they must not know about
Metroid: Other M or Monster Hunters Tri.
No they have not. This generation of gamers focus more about online shooters and bioware rps rather than jrpgs and original non-fps games.
Its such a shame too.
There missing out on some of the best games iv ever played.
So true. I love the games on the Wii.
 

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As far as I'm concerned, ALL of this generations consoles are underachieving "viruses", so what's your point exactly?
 

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So why doesn't Nintendo try using the Wii to the full potential that it has and prove this guy wrong? It can't be that damn hard. Metroid Prime Corruption (& Trilogy) was a great example of a good FPS(ish) game that works great on the Wii. Why can't we get more FPS games with decent controls like that?

There are plenty of things the Wii could do. Its just not getting done which is why remarks like what this guy is saying come out all the time. I support the Wii and hope it can actually produce some good games soon, but I'm thinking it probably won't because it seems cheaper and more lucrative to keep making shit games for retarded customers (excuse me, new-gamer/non-gamers). And honestly, don't hate new-gamers and Wii owners, I have one. I'm just disappointed in how few good games get released for it. The DS gets better games anymore than the Wii.
 

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I sense confusion
Byers said:
Acidwell said:
Byers said:
First make an actual decent game, instead of remaking the same generic war shooter every six months - then you can criticize other people's work.
So you have never criticized a game in your life? Also the guy made BATTLEFIELD which was released a year before the nearest similar game COD, it popularized vehicles in online fps, and more or less introduced the capture point system that so many fps games have copied since then. If thats not enough he left just after the release of battlefield 2 meaning he has had nothing to do with bad company, 1943 or bc2
A game? Yes. But this guy's badmouthing a whole console with large sweeping generalizations. And I'm normally a big fan of those. But he's not doing it very well, or being very original.
I was giving you an example of an actual decent game that he had made, so he should be allowed criticize whatever he wants. Also its not much of a generalization to say that a lot of wii users aren't normally gamers since that is the target audience of a lot of wii/ds marketing. Older people and very young kids.
 

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As far as the use goes, I can vouch for that... I don't own one myself, but everyone I know that has a Wii barely touches the damn thing. Every now and then its like, "Wanna play some golf?" but that's about it. It's not something for prolonged use
 

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I agree with Mr. Liliegrin's view of the Wii. I sold my Wii after i found out it was just all about the hyped up controller (still cant believe i fell for that)

It's more of a casual gaming device then a 'hardcore' game machine. Nothing wrong with that, most consoles are becoming that way. e.g. simplifying controls/gameplay for max fun. It can be viewed as a plus or minus depending on the person using it.
 

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I despise the Wii.

Had one for 6-8 months, played it for about 2-3. Such a waste of time, and I had the "big" titles too. Other people I know who owned one faired worse then that too. A mate of mine got one and got rid of it within a month.

Another has his, but only really played on it for the first month.

The Wii is overpriced and lacking in every aspect (except disappointment).

Also, I've got to disagree with seemingly everyone else; consoles aren't toys.
 

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boo hoo Fred boo hoo.

Its not the best system on the market but drunken Mario Cart WILL be better than Bad Company II, and I think that's the real reason why he doesn't like the Wii.
 

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Tres Bien! I have to agree with him, we have a Wii at my house and it currently being used as a paperweight. (I'm too lazy to actually go buy one) Maybe when they make better games for the Wii, it'll become of some use. My suggestion to Nintendo would be start working on a new console, there may be time to salvage your reputation. Poor Nintendo, I used to be such a huge fan of them too.
 

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Oh snap, girlfriend. You did NOT just go there.

I wonder if this is a common sentiment among third party developers. It could possibly explain the relative lack of proper third party software for the Wii.
 

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Acidwell said:
I sense confusion
Byers said:
Acidwell said:
Byers said:
First make an actual decent game, instead of remaking the same generic war shooter every six months - then you can criticize other people's work.
So you have never criticized a game in your life? Also the guy made BATTLEFIELD which was released a year before the nearest similar game COD, it popularized vehicles in online fps, and more or less introduced the capture point system that so many fps games have copied since then. If thats not enough he left just after the release of battlefield 2 meaning he has had nothing to do with bad company, 1943 or bc2
A game? Yes. But this guy's badmouthing a whole console with large sweeping generalizations. And I'm normally a big fan of those. But he's not doing it very well, or being very original.
I was giving you an example of an actual decent game that he had made, so he should be allowed criticize whatever he wants. Also its not much of a generalization to say that a lot of wii users aren't normally gamers since that is the target audience of a lot of wii/ds marketing. Older people and very young kids.
If by old people you mean people who are old enough to appreciate Nintendo's long running franchises.
And if the Wii is a toy, then similarly I could say the Battlefield franchise was a playground, since it has no single player or story to speak of, just provides a generic war setting and let people drive around and blow shit up.
 

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Translation:

"The Wii market is too hard to sell to; they won't buy the same Shooter Guy 3 sequels we keep shitting out. They aren't like the Hardcore (suckers) who just buy whatever we advertise to them month after month. They expect their games to be unique, interesting, and have lots of value, which we have no idea at all how to do. We're going to keep milking the basement dwelling Halo-tards until the market collapses while blaming piracy and used game sales for our lousy products."