Fox Business: LEGO Movie "Anti-Capitalist"

[Branindain]

One, not for the first time, and probably not for the last: Fox News is quite literally responsible for the legal precedent in the U.S. that the news media can lie to the public.

Lol @ that link. The news media brazenly defends their right to lie and call it news, and the courts back them up. Holy heck but the power structure in America is rotten.

 

[LostAlone]

The weirdest part of this whole thing to me is the assumption that any message that is anti-capitalist is inherently bad. At the start they didn't even say that the message was bad. Just that it was. It was assumed that anti-capitalist was being pejoratively used to mean 'bad' and no-one even questioned that.

And that my friends is strange as all get up. It's some serious doubletalk stuff. You say one word, and everyone hears something else.

I mean... Maybe it's just me... But it feels odder than everything else here. Plenty of things over the past few decades have happily described themselves as anti-capitalist, and while those people generally weren't ever really the mainstream, they were definitely seen as having their hearts in the right place, even from people who didn't agree with them.

The message from most Rage Against The Machine types is that it should be more important to society to feed the starving than for businesses to horde money. And that's a fine message. It's more complicated than that in the real world (give a man a fish vs teach a man to fish) but the end goal is one that most people agree is a good one.

So to find anyone (even someone as stupid as Fox) directly going against that, and certainly against that public perception is odder than usual. It's actual cognitive dissonance. No-one genuinely thinks these things. Not even foxes viewers. They have an audience share in the millions; 99.999% of them aren't CEOs. And yet that viewpoint still gets a massive megaphone, screamed across the world.

It's odd as all hell.

 

[Skrimmy]

I find nothing wrong with the LEGO movie or capitalism in general. There IS something wrong with FOX and their standards for news, but I'm sure most of us are aware of that by now.

 

[KazeAizen]

These are the moments when I hide my head in shame and wish that Fox would stop making the rest of us Republicans look bad.

We all have those. They make me hide my head in shame when they bring religion into their schtick. Its a mess. If me (a democrat) and you were in office and I tried to reach across the asile, so to speak, to compromise with you on a bill or something and you agreed to it I have just shot both of our political careers in the neck. That's a sad state of affairs when I can say that with a very likely 90% chance that would be the outcome. We need both views. Extremists always have and always will do more harm than good. Moderate, middle ground policies is where a system like the one in the U.S. will flourish. Letting big businesses do their thing but with just enough of a leash on them so that we all don't end up screwed over.

 

[Scorpid]

Why do all fox commentators have such punchable faces that makes noises for their smug irritating voices that in turn speaks such idiotic douchebag opinions. Do they have casting calls for these people or is it by instinct that people this insane are lured like flys to shit towards fox news?

 

[Dragonlayer]

I have to wonder: do they actually believe the garbage they spout when they say this kind of stuff or do they say it purely because they know it get attention?

 

[Dragonlayer]

The weirdest part of this whole thing to me is the assumption that any message that is anti-capitalist is inherently bad. At the start they didn't even say that the message was bad. Just that it was. It was assumed that anti-capitalist was being pejoratively used to mean 'bad' and no-one even questioned that.

And that my friends is strange as all get up. It's some serious doubletalk stuff. You say one word, and everyone hears something else.

I mean... Maybe it's just me... But it feels odder than everything else here. Plenty of things over the past few decades have happily described themselves as anti-capitalist, and while those people generally weren't ever really the mainstream, they were definitely seen as having their hearts in the right place, even from people who didn't agree with them.

The message from most Rage Against The Machine types is that it should be more important to society to feed the starving than for businesses to horde money. And that's a fine message. It's more complicated than that in the real world (give a man a fish vs teach a man to fish) but the end goal is one that most people agree is a good one.

So to find anyone (even someone as stupid as Fox) directly going against that, and certainly against that public perception is odder than usual. It's actual cognitive dissonance. No-one genuinely thinks these things. Not even foxes viewers. They have an audience share in the millions; 99.999% of them aren't CEOs. And yet that viewpoint still gets a massive megaphone, screamed across the world.


It's odd as all hell.

You raise an interesting point about knee-jerk reactions to what anti-Capitalism entails, but on the other hand: FILTHY COMMUNIST!

 

[Boris Goodenough]

And this is why, when you're talking about american politics with various political science students, sociologists, etc, in universities around Europe, we really just smile and shrug and move on.

You want some lube to get that circlejerk started?

Since we aren't circumsized we don't need lube, silly Americansky...

 

[idarkphoenixi]

Right, because it's not like corporations have EVER tried to indoctrinate kids...

Hey, wait a minute...http://gawker.com/radio-disney-is-promoting-fracking-at-dozens-of-element-1498113339

Is't Fox news just a station exclusively for old, white, rich republicans? Do a real % of Americans actually think like this?

I don't know all the numbers but these in particular are pretty funny:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/26/fox-news-audience-just-13_n_659800.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/01/half-of-fox-news-viewers-are-68-and-older/283385/

 

[Muspelheim]

And this is why, when you're talking about american politics with various political science students, sociologists, etc, in universities around Europe, we really just smile and shrug and move on.

You want some lube to get that circlejerk started?

Since we aren't circumsized we don't need lube, silly Americansky...

If we of were, glorious State would of pay! Is very nice. Long live Eastovaguia!

Although lube would of be nice, is banned luxury goods. Would you some mail?

Is't Fox news just a station exclusively for old, white, rich republicans? Do a real % of Americans actually think like this?

I really doubt that. Yes, plenty of people will, but equally plenty of people will see it for the spontaneous bowel movement of the grotesque Fox News machinery that it is.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

I...I don't... WHAT?!?

Talk about missing the point of the story! But then, what would you expect from Fox News?

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

I know the study you're referring to (Lichter and Rothman). The problem I have with it is that 'businessman' is an utterly generic moniker for basically any high paying white collar job that involves chasing money. CEO, banker, financial planner, investment analyst, accountant, stockbroker, economist, treasurer, venture capitalist, small business owner... there are so many professions that the study crushes together to give a false pretense that business is being unreasonably demonised. If were to conflate every blue collar job, you'd find a similarly high figure.

I haven't looked at the study in a while, but I believe the purpose of rolling those professions under "businessmen" is that they share the same motivation: profit. That is, Hollywood believes that self-interested monetary profit seekers are more likely to be evil and engage in criminal activity and dishonesty for the sake of their goals than non-monetary profit seekers. That is not to say that constructions workers don't want to make money, but that such an individual is not overly concerned with acquiring wealth.

Yes, what a bizarre idea they have that people who care for nothing but profit would be less likely to display the moral scruples that would stop them from committing a crime. No wonder all those cop dramas are so unbelievable.

 

[MB202]

It figures Fox would take something at face value and decry it. Really, President/Lord Business has almost nothing to do with capitalism, and the name "Business" was thrown on him likely because he wears a suit.

 

[scorptatious]

It's a movie about fucking legos! How can you consider that of all things to be "anti-capitalist"??? That sounds like the complete opposite!

Granted, I haven't seen the movie, so perhaps they're right. But when I think of a movie that's entirely about legos, "anti-capitalist" doesn't come to mind.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

Did they SEE the movie?

I mean, yeah, it's pretty anti-capitalist, since a good chunk of the message is "See those people mindlessly doing whatever the CEO tells them to do? Who don't even bother to question anything, including why coffee is 37 FREAKING BUCKS? Yeah, those people are boring and brainwashed. Don't be them. Think for yourself.".

But the only thing they take issue with is the fact that the bad guy is a CEO? REALLY?

...Welp, thanks for giving me more material to laugh at, Faux News/Entertainment. I can't believe some people take these clowns seriously.

 

[Nurb]

Oh look it's that guy who laughed in Peter Schiff's face when he warned him the economy would collapse 2 years before it happened exactly as he said it would.