Fox News Attacks NEA for Classifying Games as Art

Trogdor1138

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They should use all the money that goes towards Fox News to fund aspiring videogame developers. Because I have learnt much more from playing videogames than I ever will from the mainstream news media.

Really, at this point we don't even have to point out the flaws in these sorts of situations, so instead here's an extremely abrupt ending to a sentence.
 

joker5950

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cp.06 said:
This is almost enough to make me want to rage quit life ¬¬
ya i know what you mean, i've played that life game. the lag is terrible, the AI sucks and respawns take forever lol XD
 

KirbyKrackle

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Therumancer said:
snippety-snap
When you respond to me (uh, and you kind of did, at length), please quote what you are responding to. For example, I have no idea what parts of my comments you're referring to when you're saying things like "you misunderstand my motives" (when did I talk about your motives at all? I was concerned with the content of your post, not your intent; I still don't care about your motives, in fact. Or when you talk about acting like "there are no valid criticisms that can be made"? I believe I simply refuted the criticisms that you made, as opposed to stating that valid criticisms do not exist.), and so you're making it very difficult to give any response; I was so courteous as to quote you, after all. Also, you can go ahead and report me if you feel I was out of line in something I said; otherwise, I don't see the point in bringing it up.

And finally, in a completely-off-topic defense of satire, I'll have you know that mockery and rudeness can be very effective in demonstrating the problems with someone's position, so long as it's done properly with great skill and understanding.

Back on topicness, sorta: While some of the responses here have been inappropriate (yes, associate ourselves with hotheaded violence, that's the ticket!) a lot of this discussion has been quite reasonable in its "attack" on FOX News and its extremely low standards of journalism. Also, why is it a bad thing to label sensationalism as sensationalism and refuse to simply accept it? Why doesn't it "help matters"? Is demanding better quality journalism too impolite? Please explain.

Also, the need to remain in a "state of enmity" with gamers is due to audience demand, not actual issues with gamers or video games (unless a gamer ran over Murdoch's dog or something); you just said yourself they're about sensationalism, and so long as mainstream acceptance of video games is considered sensational by its viewers, Fox will continue to pander to them. It has nothing to do with whether we're nice to them or not.
 

BrownGaijin

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Why is it that every time I hear Fox criticizing something for its standards I think of something like this:

 

ekkaman

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Avatar Roku said:
ekkaman said:
Some people want to make more of something cause they like it and want to impose their activity's on other's, while at the same time looking like something better than what they are.

Game's are game's people art is art.

Artwork from game's can be art, not the game itself.
Why? What makes movies art, but not games?
Movies are not art they are movies. Some are titled arthouse cause i guess shithouse does not sell so well.
 

Ryengu

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Here's the thing that opponents of games as an art form don't seem to get. We're not talking about PLAYING games as an art form, we're talking about MAKING games as an art form. The one dude's example about ping pong players fails because the players aren't DESIGNING the game, they're just playing it. Making all of the dynamics work together, designing the visuals, the music, the physics, and making it all flow seamlessly and entertainingly is nothing short of poetry in motion. A well oiled machine.
That said, I think games need to rise to that standard a bit more.
 

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kannibus said:
Wasteful? Oh, do tell.

This from the country that spent a million dollars on developing a pen that would function in space.
lol didnt know about that, i guess they never heard of a pencil
 

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Fox, this is why we can't have nice things.

I wish I could say I was even remotely surprised by these tactics, but honestly, this is depressingly typical on their part.
 

Rhade Adama

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Anytime I read or see something from "Fox News" I get a good laugh. I just can't take what they say seriously.
 

templargunman

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I am shocked an appalled that FOX NEWS would do such a thing. I have trusted them for so long to provide fair and balanced coverage. They've always had such a clean record on this too, unlike all those other stations. Man, I really am surprised at this. Well, Fox News will definitely loose my viewership now.

Actually though, everyone intelligent knows that Fox News is utter crap. The only people Fox actually manages to attract are the idiots of America. Fox lies and lies, and then lies about lying, the only reason they get away with it is because their viewership is too stupid to actually watch other news sources, so all of the outrage never reaches them. It's not their fault, it's just that Fox is a propaganda device, we've always had them, we always will. And everyone is victim to propaganda too.
 

Sixties Spidey

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Ace IV said:
ZeroMachine said:
Ace IV said:
Fox didn't do anything wrong, they had a debate. Your ire should be directed at the dude who was arguing against video games as art, not FNC itself.
They set up the debate so the guy opposing video games would ignore every point the other guy made. Fox is just as much at fault for this as that asshole radio guy.
They set up the debate so people could hear a different point of view. The dude from FNC never took a side, as good reporters don't. Stop blaming Fox for reporting the news in an honest way
Honest my ass. That doesn't explain the past God-Knows-How-Many times that Fox has attacked video games, even with such little knowledge of what they are attacking. Do I seriously need to bring up (Se)Xbox to prove my point?

These ****-sacks have pretty much made it their manifesto to attack just about anything to do with state-funding, but honestly, what do I expect? These fucksticks are so far to the right they make the Westboro Baptist Church look like a bunch of fucking tree-hugging hippies.
 

Parnage

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You guys do know that's like a morning talk show right?

Opinions with news and weather and such. So I am upset because someone has an opinion? Meh. That's not news. It's at best no different then any other morning show who talk about crap one rarely cares about.

Oh and the other guy trying to defend is terrible at it. He just get's shut down because he doesn't understand how to actually debate someone who's hostile or trying to twist words. How pathetic.

It's funny I don't even have to read the comments to know it's around 10 pages of "Fox news is jerks"(not so politely) a page of people talking about how they want games funded by the government(with I am sure a mention of America's Army in thar somewhere) and a page of people wondering why it's mean for fox to poke at video games and okay for everyone else to do it whenever they get the opportunity from a violent act where someone happened to own a console.

Reddit as a source by the way? That's something new.