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Checking the NYT photo which gives a wider angle I'd say the image is consistent with an internal blast in the building blowing out walls causing a collapse so either he blew himself up or they fired a drone strike missile in through an open door / window or spent hours throwing and placing rubble outside the small compound to fake an internal blast.
Are you under the impression that various projectiles cannot penetrate into things and then explode?
 

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Those are all long-term solutions that would do nothing to provide immediate help to those in need.

"Multiple family housing" is also an 'interesting' idea as it requires massive societal change in regards to the 'American Dream'.
Price ceilings lead to fires of section 8 housing when you can't raise rents, and sometimes leads to the owners of the building walking away, and local officials condemning the buildings.

Landlords will stop repairs, maintenance because the building is costing more than it's bringing in.


They will hire former fire inspectors, firefighters, and so fore to help set fires to their building when the tenants are away.

Edit: More evidence: https://www.gq.com/story/san-francisco-is-burning

 
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Are you under the impression that various projectiles cannot penetrate into things and then explode?
The walls are clearly blown out on the more zoomed out pictures available so the explosion had to have happened inside the room and been a fair sized blast so while an explosive can penetrate you'd be talking firing a tank shell at it basically.
 

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Price ceilings lead to fires of section 8 housing when you can't raise rents, and sometimes leads to the owners of the building walking away, and local officials condemning the buildings.

Landlords will stop repairs, maintenance because the building is costing more than it's bringing in.


They will hire former fire inspectors, firefighters, and so fore to help set fires to their building when the tenants are away.

Edit: More evidence: https://www.gq.com/story/san-francisco-is-burning

So, they should instead have been allowed to evict the elderly and disabled in the completely legal fashion?

"If we don't give them what they want they'll hurt people" is negotiating with terrorists.
 

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So, they should instead have been allowed to evict the elderly and disabled in the completely legal fashion?

"If we don't give them what they want they'll hurt people" is negotiating with terrorists.
And that's how you end up with a housing shortage.

Also, it raises the rates for non-rent control apartments due to scarcity.
 
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Here, have an anti-China tweet 😘

And you believed that?
I don't do tweets.

Believe that? Why not? It's not like ISIS doesn't have a long history of people blowing themselves up. And if the US wanted to blow the place up they would have just sent a drone. But I guess Lavrov prefers your version.
 

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Would hardly be unexpected if true.

Of course, we can question the wisdom and morality of going ahead with the raid if children were present at all.
Yes, let's tell terrorist leaders around the world they will never be punished as long as they have children around. Instead let's focus the blame where it actually lies; the person leading an extremely cruel terrorist organization who decided to blow up his own children.
 

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And that's how you end up with a housing shortage.

Also, it raises the rates for non-rent control apartments due to scarcity.
Okay, but how's that different than just...evicting the old, poor, and disabled the legal way?

Like, you haven't addressed the whole "they did it to evict people who weren't paying *enough*, so we should've just let them evict those people to begin with" problem
 

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So did he just have the bomb ready to go, or...?
Since he apparently blow it up early in the raid, yes i suppose so;


All good little jihadists sleep in their vest, just in case.
Nobody said anything about a vest
 

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The walls are clearly blown out on the more zoomed out pictures available so the explosion had to have happened inside the room and been a fair sized blast so while an explosive can penetrate you'd be talking firing a tank shell at it basically.
There are munitions that are designed to use kinetic energy to penetrate a hard target such as a building and then detonate an explosive charge. Javelin missiles (I think) do this.

Not that I’d disbelieve an ISIS commander would blow himself up, and frankly that’s the version of events I consider the most likely.
 

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Since he apparently blow it up early in the raid, yes i suppose so;

I mean, as the article notes, we're fresh off a "successful" drone strike that killed a random dude and his family. I'm shocked you're taking this 100% at face value
 

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I mean, as the article notes, we're fresh off a "successful" drone strike that killed a random dude and his family. I'm shocked you're taking this 100% at face value
If evidence contradicting this version comes out i am all ears. But assuming that Biden sent special forces to blow shit up and get the same result as a drone strike makes little sense, he would have just sent a drone. Additionally ISIS has a history of blowing themselves up. I am not discounting the possibility that some special forces accidentally killed civilians during the raid but the possibility an ISIS leader blows himself up, taking women and children with him, is just as credible.
 

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Okay, but how's that different than just...evicting the old, poor, and disabled the legal way?

Like, you haven't addressed the whole "they did it to evict people who weren't paying *enough*, so we should've just let them evict those people to begin with" problem
The poor unless they have multiple children that they are taking care of, and aren't disabled, or old can move somewhere else.

Edit: Or outside of the city proper.
 

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The poor unless they have multiple children that they are taking care of, and aren't disabled, or old can move somewhere else.

Edit: Or outside of the city proper.
Yes. Let's clear the poor's out of our cities.
 

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Yes. Let's clear the poor's out of our cities.
I mentioned increasing the housing supply, zoning reform, and multifamily apartments. But generally to deal with housing shortages in a city you build housing outside of it.
 

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I mentioned increasing the housing supply, zoning reform, and multifamily apartments. But generally to deal with housing shortages in a city you build housing outside of it.
Be careful what you wish for. The pandemic hit Dublin worse than almost any European city precisely because nobody can actually afford to live in the city.


That being said I'm also not in favour of rent caps either. I would rather publicly owned housing. I think if you're going to insist on having a landlord system in place rent caps just make it unrealistic for individuals to be landlords, but a vulture fund that can buy up entire housing estates can still turn a massive profit so it is just going to move more towards a handful of corporations owning everybody's homes.
 

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The poor unless they have multiple children that they are taking care of, and aren't disabled, or old can move somewhere else.

Edit: Or outside of the city proper.
So, leave the places where the jobs are and/or require long commutes.

Good plan. Also, that's only a fraction of the people brought up.

EDIT: Look, I'm just skeptical when the solution to "rent-seeking parasites are setting fires to have an excuse to evict people" is "give the arson-happy rent-seeking parasites exactly what they want"

EDITedit: Look, I live in Montana, a state with zero regulations on how much you can increase rent. Rents were already getting untenable before the pandemic hit, what with investors moving in and demolishing affordable housing and trailer parks to make way for higher priced condos.

Then covid happened and Montana actually locked down for a bit and out of staters started swarming in, fleeing covid/the homeless/liberals/etc, and our landlords had the brilliant thought, "hey, why am I renting to a poorly paid Montanan when I can raise the rent $300/$400/$500 or more a month and get some Californian tech guy or Texas retiree?

Shockingly, this did not lead to more low-income housing being built, because why build those when condos and houses are being sold sight-unseen for $50k-$60k above asking price in cash? In a twist of events that will only be surprising to you, our homelessness situation is worse than ever, the job market situation is absolutely dire because who's gonna take a job that doesn't pay the rent and gas for commuting 60 miles a day, and there are zero plans for low income housing or "multi-family apartments" because our lovely free market governor signed a law saying that cities couldn't mandate those be built.

And what the hell's a "multi-family apartment" anyway? Just a regular apartment with people piled on top of each other like an overcrowded hamster enclosure?
 
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