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You have that backwards. All of you will unflinchingly attack people because of the letter next to their name.
Thank you for exemplifying. An inability or unwillingness (at a practical level, it's a distinction without a difference) to even acknowledge one's own actions is a key part of the problem. Instead, a persecution complex is relied upon to prevent requiring actual introspection.

A literal insurrection aimed at overturning the very foundations of our democratic republic? "legitimate political discourse"
Pointing out how dangerous supporting/defending/excusing said insurrection is? "biased attacks against anyone who dares wear an (R)"
 
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A literal insurrection aimed at overturning the very foundations of our democratic republic? "legitimate political discourse"
Pointing out how dangerous supporting/defending/excusing said insurrection is? "biased attacks against anyone who dares wear an (R)"
Nobody is calling the riot legitimate political discourse. Nobody at all. The resolution the RNC write condemned the Jan 6th commission for going after people for legitimate political discourse, because the Jan 6 commission is not exclusively investigating people connected to the violence. Asked for clarification, they said:

"Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger crossed a line," McDaniel said. "They chose to join Nancy Pelosi in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens who engaged in legitimate political discourse that had nothing to do with violence at the Capitol."

People are acting like Jim Jordan, by virtue of objecting to votes from certain states (as has happened many times before in history), is personally responsible for a riot. Nobody is defending the riot, they're defending people who had nothing to do with the riot.
 
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People are acting like Jim Jordan, by virtue of objecting to votes from certain states (as has happened many times before in history), is personally responsible for a riot. Nobody is defending the riot, they're defending people who had nothing to do with the riot.
Jim Jordan was one of Trump's strongest cronies in the legislature. Along with a long history of Trump protectionism and some evidence he had been in close contact with Trump's administration around the end of 2020 and early 2021 (thus potentially involved in some of the incidents the committee would be investigating), and Trump handed him a Presidential Medal of Freedom in January 2021.

It is hard to view attempting to appoint a person with such potential conflicts of interest to the committee as anything other than a calculated attempt to insult and undermine it.
 

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Not always. H. P. Lovecraft wrote an article once arguing that cats are the most superior animal, and that love of cats is an indicator of high intelligence, all of which is just right and true.
He was also correct on the observation that the vastness of the universe is fucking terrifying.
 
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I honestly have never understood what is supposed to be terrifying about it.
When your entire identity rests on you being the center of everything, and there being some higher being who loves you so very much just for being you and has an eternal spot in the afterlife saved just for you, realizing that you are utterly inconsequential compared to all of existence and everything would go on as normal if you were snuffed out like a used cigarette is unbearable.
 
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It is hard to view attempting to appoint a person with such potential conflicts of interest to the committee as anything other than a calculated attempt to insult and undermine it.
It isn't a trial, there are going to be conflicts of interest, but if it were a trial, you're essentially advocating for a trial with no defense attorney. Our system of laws here is an adversarial system, if you clear out the people who would act in opposition it doesn't work. That's why the tradition is to let the parties pick their own appointments, exactly so that they can pick the people the other side doesn't want to deal with.
 
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It isn't a trial, there are going to be conflicts of interest, but if it were a trial, you're essentially advocating for a trial with no defense attorney. Our system of laws here is an adversarial system, if you clear out the people who would act in opposition it doesn't work. That's why the tradition is to let the parties pick their own appointments, exactly so that they can pick the people the other side doesn't want to deal with.
Because when investigating whether or not someone did a robbery, you always want one of the suspected robbers to handle evidence. Makes perfect sense.

I mean, it's not like there's 50-ish GOP members in the senate, you want *those specific* GOP members investigating whether or not they specifically did crimes.

"We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" is supposed to be a fucking joke, not an aspiration.
 
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Thank you for exemplifying. An inability or unwillingness (at a practical level, it's a distinction without a difference) to even acknowledge one's own actions is a key part of the problem. Instead, a persecution complex is relied upon to prevent requiring actual introspection.

A literal insurrection aimed at overturning the very foundations of our democratic republic? "legitimate political discourse"
Pointing out how dangerous supporting/defending/excusing said insurrection is? "biased attacks against anyone who dares wear an (R)"
Ah I love the "Don't be weird and different in a way you don't like and then we'll stop hitting you" argument. So nice to see the masks come off so clearly and it to be said so plainly.

The "Your to blame for this" rhetoric.

The incredible sophistry of employed to try and justify such a position and pretend to be superior when in reality thinking you've been introspective about it because in your view the goals are righteous so there an be no misdeed on your part. Its all in service of "The Greater good".

You bring up a topic you know is somewhat offlimits and can't be argued against hoping no-one will challenge you


Because if anyone did you might have to spend a bit of time being introspective yourself for a change rather than telling everyone else to be it. Tell me, how many people do you believe need to be beaten in the streets for the crime of not agreeing with you?

One?


Two?


More?
 

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I honestly have never understood what is supposed to be terrifying about it.
In the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy there's a machine called the total perspective vortex. It uses a slice of lemon cake to show you your relative position and importance in the grand scale of the cosmos. It's also the most vicious nasty torture device in the galaxy known to completely break people mentally in minutes because it shows you how little you matter. How little impact your life really has. It's super depression in machine form.

Because that's the terrifying thing in the end that out existence is but a blink of an eye that we matter so little and will likely not e remembered after we're all gone.

For Lovecraft it was all that happening while you're still alive. The true futility of mans struggle on show vs being that see us as we see ants at best who we cannot ever hope to match up to or even matter to. That is they wanted to squash us they could and we couldn't stop them.

What if the villains won because there are no heroes just different groups of villains fighting for power in the end with their being no justice or good in the universe anymore.
 

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I think it's because humans have evolved to work with numbers and distances on a completely different scale and we get error messages when trying to think too hard about it.
If you put every single planet in the solar system end to end, they would fit between earth and the moon. And the radiation coming off of Jupiter would kill everybody on the planet.

The numbers are incomprehensible
 

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In the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy there's a machine called the total perspective vortex. It uses a slice of lemon cake to show you your relative position and importance in the grand scale of the cosmos. It's also the most vicious nasty torture device in the galaxy known to completely break people mentally in minutes because it shows you how little you matter. How little impact your life really has. It's super depression in machine form.
You could just not be depressed about (the earth or you or even the entire Milky Way Galaxy) being completely irrelevant in the grandest scheme of things. It's not hard. Just like not every story has to be about saving the planet, galaxy, or universe, your own aspirations can be closer to home. It's fine. None of us are the star of a Marvel movie story, quelle terrible.

See now you say horror...
Or something else that begins with H
 

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You could just not be depressed about (the earth or you or even the entire Milky Way Galaxy) being completely irrelevant in the grandest scheme of things. It's not hard. Just like not every story has to be about saving the planet, galaxy, or universe, your own aspirations can be closer to home. It's fine. None of us are the star of a Marvel movie story, quelle terrible.
That's the thing it's not merely the idea of not being a hero. It's about the idea of how little it all matters in the grand scheme of things and how little you matter or ever mattered. It's seeing the tidal wave coming towards you and knowing you want to do something, to stop it, to help people and being utterly incapable of doing anything because that was is going to hit no matter what you do, those people and you are going to die no matter what you do. It's facing your own mortality and the mortality of those round you in the face of something so vastly powerful and unstoppable.

It's why in Lovecraft the idea is humanity doesn't win, it just buys itself a little longer before it's doom often at tremendous cost to those who do manage to avert doom.