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Maybe my logical deduction gauge is offset, cause I wouldn't find it logical to support a political platform literally dependant on having to lie and cheat to remain relevant in a dying world they're happy to keep on killing for profit, if the only opposing political platform was found to have lied too at some point. That's not harm reduction, it's petty and fallacious.
 

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Well, in his case, he has been witch hunted by both sides, only the far left has managed to get him banned, from twitch, and twitter. It generally seems like far left opinions are safer to have on twitch, twitter and youtube.
Yet far right are pretty much the most lucrative ones. Far left opinions might be "safer", but they're not more dominant or powerful. Saying the right has no power over the online media environment is just... no. The most popular podcast in the world is spouting vaccine misinformation and touting Ron DeSantis has a great guy and Tucker Carlson as a good journalist.

Which is why Destiny is on the left and against the far left. Cause the left doesn't have too, it has stronger ideas then the right. He was just making a point about the world, he didn't become left from feelings, he did it through logical deduction.
I'd call some of this into question. Destiny also seems to have been paling around with Lauren Southern and Sneako, which maybe don't do that.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Yet far right are pretty much the most lucrative ones. Far left opinions might be "safer", but they're not more dominant or powerful. Saying the right has no power over the online media environment is just... no. The most popular podcast in the world is spouting vaccine misinformation and touting Ron DeSantis has a great guy and Tucker Carlson as a good journalist.
We see far left ones being pretty popular too. Hussan makes a ton of money and is still one of the highest earners around. There is a lot of money in right wing ideas but its much easier to end up getting deplatformed for those ideas. I never said the money isn't there, just that its riskier at the moment.

I'd call some of this into question. Destiny also seems to have been paling around with Lauren Southern and Sneako, which maybe don't do that.
He's been trying to get back into debating right wingers. For the last couple years he's been pulled into debates over and over with the far left and they tend not to have much substance and resulted in twitter and twitch bans over disagreements. Lauren seems to have moved away from some of her more yikes positions, shes still a weird Christian right winger though. Sneako... I get the feeling that Destiny is kinda trying to save him, like, he sees Sneako's age, intelligence, and sudden jump to fame and is trying to keep him from getting some really really dumb ideas in his head without them being challenged. I have no idea if this is true, I only became aware of Sneako when he was on Destiny's youtube, but I've heard he started out being someone left then his gf cheated on him and it broke his brain and thats where a lot of his red pill bs came from, can anyone confirm?
 

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He's been trying to get back into debating right wingers. For the last couple years he's been pulled into debates over and over with the far left and they tend not to have much substance and resulted in twitter and twitch bans over disagreements. Lauren seems to have moved away from some of her more yikes positions, shes still a weird Christian right winger though. Sneako... I get the feeling that Destiny is kinda trying to save him, like, he sees Sneako's age, intelligence, and sudden jump to fame and is trying to keep him from getting some really really dumb ideas in his head without them being challenged. I have no idea if this is true, I only became aware of Sneako when he was on Destiny's youtube, but I've heard he started out being someone left then his gf cheated on him and it broke his brain and thats where a lot of his red pill bs came from, can anyone confirm?
That and all the manosphere shit that's been popping lately - Another rightwing area that results in instant fame and money from the ever dedicated red pill crowd. And Lauren Southern really hasn't changed one bit. I remember when Vaush supposedly saved Shoe on Head.
 

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That and all the manosphere shit that's been popping lately - Another rightwing area that results in instant fame and money from the ever dedicated red pill crowd. And Lauren Southern really hasn't changed one bit. I remember when Vaush supposedly saved Shoe on Head.
I was really hoping we were done with all that, but some weirdo just needed to get his fans to abuse the algorithm. I think it mainly works since the left has kinda left men by the wayside. It's easy to get the impression, especially with people saying so, that the left is blaming men for being men. I don't mean the boys will be boys thing, I mean that the loudest shrillest voices on the left like to say that men as a class cause all these problems, but no one individual operates as a class, so hearing that they get pushed further to the right and into the weird self help red pillers who want to sell them supplements.
 

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I was really hoping we were done with all that, but some weirdo just needed to get his fans to abuse the algorithm. I think it mainly works since the left has kinda left men by the wayside. It's easy to get the impression, especially with people saying so, that the left is blaming men for being men. I don't mean the boys will be boys thing, I mean that the loudest shrillest voices on the left like to say that men as a class cause all these problems, but no one individual operates as a class, so hearing that they get pushed further to the right and into the weird self help red pillers who want to sell them supplements.
That's absolute horseshit. Let's ignore that the left is filled with men, we have not been left by the wayside. I am man who is probably further left than almost everyone on this board with a few possible exceptions.

But this is a defense I have seen before and it rings so hollow. There are plenty of examples of men who present as traditionally masculine. In celebrity culture there's Nick Offerman. He is far more "masculine" than any of the male self help grifters while also espousing a healthy masculinity. In terms of influencers? Three people I follow on various social media platforms are Obese to Beast, Pure Bullfit and The Warrior Philosopher. These are all men who would pass for varying degrees of "traditional" masculinity. Yet it's the Tates and the Sneakos that these men flock to? Why? What's the difference? They're turning up FOR the hateful rhetoric. The notion that women should be subservient to men is the reason their fans like them. This is the exact same bullshit as people blaming the left for pushing people to the right when actual torch wielding nazis chanting blood and soil marched through Charlottesville. Fuck literally every single man who blames his problems on women and queer people rather than trying to be better.
 

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Also, Destiny literally had him on.
Sam Hyde? Nick Fuentes is the alt right (or just a neo nazi, for simplicity) rather harmless looking dude he had visit him in his house. I don't think Hyde has ever appeared in the stream in person. And of course soon after he had to argue about whether or not platforming a nazi is a large issue with Max "mrgirl" Karson, who in turn got banned on YT over mass flagging of his rap songs that'd been up for a good while. For once you can point at the nazis actually being behind something until proven otherwise.
 

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nazi's pistol fails to discharge at point blank range
That leader you are talking about aided in killing 86 people at a Jewish community center with the aid of Hezbollah. She then got an oil deal with Iran. Also she doesn't know economics and has caused her country to be another Venezuela.


You sure know how to pick your leaders to admire.

Edited: Better link.

Edit: Also it was likely a false flag on her part to garner political points.
 

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Yet it's the Tates and the Sneakos that these men flock to? Why? What's the difference? They're turning up FOR the hateful rhetoric. The notion that women should be subservient to men is the reason their fans like them. Fuck literally every single man who blames his problems on women and queer people rather than trying to be better.
Men blame their problems with women on women. Women have the deflection (sexism) ready, of course, even if the criticism hits home. Turn that around and men will naturally deflect with #NotAllMen. A bunch of the famous RP preachers are going too far, yes, yet the bitter pill that rejection and disenfranchisement etc. hit young men and women very differently is there to be swallowed regardless.
 

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That leader you are talking about aided in killing 86 people at a Jewish community center with the aid of Hezbollah. She then got an oil deal with Iran. Also she doesn't know economics and has caused her country to be another Venezuela.


You sure know how to pick your leaders to admire.

Edited: Better link.

Edit: Also it was likely a false flag on her part to garner political points.
*Sigh*
1) Describing somebody as surviving an assassination attempt doesn't necessarily mean admiration
2) Argentinian leadership has been solidly neo-keynesian and neo-liberal since it became a democracy again, and a lot of its problems stem from neo-liberalism
 

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*Sigh*
1) Describing somebody as surviving an assassination attempt doesn't necessarily mean admiration
2) Argentinian leadership has been solidly neo-keynesian and neo-liberal since it became a democracy again, and a lot of its problems stem from neo-liberalism
No Mauricio Macri is a a neoliberal, the current regime is based in Peronism.

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lmao

she found someone with Neo-Nazi tattoos to wave a pistol in her face and pull the trigger?
The gun had no bullet in the chamber, also everyone knows you kill high-level people with either a rifle or a revolver since one has range, and the other is more reliable. And it just so happens this "assassination" occurs just when she was getting prosecuted for her role in the Jewish community center terrorist attack by Iranian-back militia Hezbollah.

Peronism and neo-liberalism are not mutually exclusive

  1. "A true democracy is that one in which the government does what the people want and defends only one interest: the people's."
  2. "Peronism is essentially of the common people. Any political elite is anti-people, and thus, not Peronist."
  3. "A Peronist works for the movement. Whoever, in the name of Peronism, serves an elite or a leader, is a Peronist in name only."
  4. "For Peronism, there is only one class of person: those who work."
  5. "Working is a right that creates the dignity of men; and it's a duty, because it's fair that everyone should produce as much as they consume at the very least."
  6. "For a good Peronist, there is nothing better than another Peronist." (In 1973, after coming back from exile, in a conciliatory attempt, and in order to lessen the division in society, Peron reformed this tenet to: "For an Argentine, there is nothing better than another Argentine.")
  7. "No Peronist should feel more than what he is, nor less than what he should be. When a Peronist feels more than what he is, he begins to turn into an oligarch."
  8. "When it comes to political action, the scale of values of every Peronist is: Argentina first; the movement second; and thirdly, the individuals."
  9. "Politics are not an end, but a means for the well-being of Argentina: which means happiness for our children and greatness for our nation."
  10. "The two arms of Peronism are social justice and social help. With them, we can give a hug of justice and love to the people."
  11. "Peronism desires national unity and not struggle. It wants heroes, not martyrs."
  12. "Kids should be the only privileged class."
  13. "A government without doctrine is a body without soul. That's why Peronism has a political, economic and social doctrine: Justicialism."
  14. "Justicialism is a new philosophy of life: simple, practical, of the common people, and profoundly Christian and humanist."
  15. "As political doctrine, Justicialism balances the right of the individual and society."
  16. "As an economic doctrine, Justicialism proposes a social market, putting capital to the service of the economy and the well-being of the people."
  17. "As a social doctrine, Justicialism carries out social justice, which gives each person their rights in accordance to their social function."
  18. "Peronism wants an Argentina socially 'fair', economically 'free' and politically 'sovereign'."
  19. "We establish a centralized government, an organized State and a free people."
  20. "In this land, the best thing we have is our people."
There is no economic justification for any of these, and there is a reason the country's GDP per capita is so low, and the country literally at one point stopped paying its debts to its creditors to which point this happened. They are a laughing stock among the economics departments around the world. I had an econ professor who told me it was better to burn my money than invest in their government bonds.



Five Economic Tenets[edit]
According to Alberto Fernández, the Chief of the Cabinet of Ministers during the first 5 years of Kirchnerism and currently serving as President of Argentina, they followed five tenets regarding the economy, which explained the perceived early success of the movement:[23]

  1. "Take no measures that increase the fiscal deficit"
  2. "Take no measures that increase the trade deficit"
  3. "Accumulate reserves in the central bank"
  4. "Keep the exchange rate very high to stay competitive and favor exports"
  5. "Pay off the external debt and do not acquire new debt"

1. Dumb, if you spent it on future goods like infrastructure(your green new deals, highways, etc.): it's worth it.
2. Again tariffs are the single worst policy you can make in econ, every econ 101 student knows this, and the reason China is doing so well is that they had free trade zones with fewer tariffs
3. Okay if you're not a world reserve currency like euros, yen, or the dollar
4. It's the literal opposite, the more your currency goes up, and increases in value the more your trade partners have to pay for your goods, and the higher your currency the more you can buy from lower-valued currency countries. Basically high exports needs low valued currency, high imports needs high value nation currency
5. They should follow their own advice as a country that has an infamous habit of defaulting on their debts.

I had a university student who told me that going to Mcdonald's was a luxury due to the low incomes of people there. By the way, the country has some of the best farmland in the world, good geography & is not landlocked, great human capital, and was a rising power after world war 1, and 2.
 

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I'm not debating the efficiency of Argentina's economics, I'm just saying they adopted neo-keynesian and neo-liberal economics
Where's your proof that the left-wing populism of Kirchnerism which is a subset of Peronism is neoliberal? They don't like free trade due to the tariffs, and they don't pay their creditors which scares investors out of their country both of which are the bedrock of neoliberalism.
 

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Where's your proof that the left-wing populism of Kirchnerism which is a subset of Peronism is neoliberal? They don't like free trade due to the tariffs, and they don't pay their creditors which scares investors out of their country both of which are the bedrock of neoliberalism.
The wikipedia article I posted, which is the same website you posted from, but with a longer timeframe
 

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Men blame their problems with women on women. Women have the deflection (sexism) ready, of course, even if the criticism hits home. Turn that around and men will naturally deflect with #NotAllMen. A bunch of the famous RP preachers are going too far, yes, yet the bitter pill that rejection and disenfranchisement etc. hit young men and women very differently is there to be swallowed regardless.
The reason it "hits differently" is these young men feel entitled to women's attention, affection and bodies and when they don't get them they become angry. Because they're misogynistic little chodes.

And what's the proposed solution to appeasing these turds? They're only like this because they get rejected? So should women just take one for the team and sleep with them when they don't want to? Fuck that, tell them they're shits and they need to be better.
 

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The gun had no bullet in the chamber
It didn't shoot. There's a difference. It did make a significant noise, though, but not that of a blank round (a blank round would have been somewhat destructive, as well). So it looks like the intent was to kill but the weapon misfired. This is not the sort of thing you have someone do as a publicity stunt... or for any reason, really.