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Of course, Musk's idea of "woke" is "anything that does not celebrate me for being a rich white man".
"Woke Mind Virus"=A thing that only exists in the minds of righties and MAGAts, which at this point is becoming harder to tell apart at all.

It's not even a cool concept like a memetic virus like the Individual 11 from GITS. It's literally "I don't like things and I'm gonna call it a mind virus because it sounds scary and the people who are likely to believe it are fucking idiots anyway".

Gordon Freeman fights to bring down the government. So does the fella from Bioshock, whose name escapes me. The protagonists of Resident Evil fight to defend against a threat... which is propagated by unregulated corporate greed. The protagonists of FF7 fight to overthrow their corporate overlords who run the government.
Bioshock guy is Jack, but you'd be forgiven for not remembering because he literally has no personality and is basically a walking plot device(A test tube baby that was grown 20 something years in a single year and brainwashed to crash a plane into the ocean because he read a trigger phrase in a note to use the DNA....It's fucking stupid the more you think about it, okay) in the form of a camera with a gun.

Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack your argument. I just dislike Jack because of said reasons.
 
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Trump Tax Returns Released by House Democrats
The publication of former President Donald J. Trump’s private tax documents comes amid questions about why the I.R.S. failed to fully audit him during his presidency.

Former President Donald J. Trump’s full tax returns covering 2015 through 2020 are expected to provide a rare window into the complexity of his finances.Credit...Brittany Greeson for The New York Times


By Alan Rappeport and Jim Tankersley
Dec. 30, 2022Updated 11:42 a.m. ET
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WASHINGTON — House Democrats on Friday released six years of former President Donald J. Trump’s tax records, making the closely guarded documents public after years of legal battles and speculation about Mr. Trump’s wealth and his financial entanglements.
The release came 10 days after Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee published two reports about Mr. Trump’s taxes as part of an inquiry into the Internal Revenue Service’s practice of conducting mandatory audits on presidents while they are in office. The reports found that the I.R.S. failed to audit Mr. Trump during the first two years of his presidency and did not begin the examination process until 2019, after House Democrats initiated oversight proceedings in an attempt to gain access to his tax records.
“Our findings turned out to be simple — I.R.S. did not begin their mandatory audit of the former president until I made my initial request,” Representative Richard E. Neal of Massachusetts, the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, said in a statement on Friday.

While much of the information in the tax returns has already come to light, including through the two reports released last week, the full records from 2015 through 2020 are expected to provide a rare window into the complexity of Mr. Trump’s finances and whether he may have profited from tax policies he signed into law as president. Those include the 2017 Tax Cut and Jobs Act, which provided a series of tax breaks and cuts for businesses and wealthy people.
The data released last week showed that during the first three years of his presidency, Mr. Trump paid $1.1 million in federal income taxes but paid no tax in 2020 as his income dwindled and losses mounted. During his first year as president, Mr. Trump paid $750 in federal income tax and reported $12.9 million in losses.



The nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation, which reviewed Mr. Trump’s tax returns for the House Ways and Means Committee, found several red flags in the former president’s filings that it said warranted further investigation. Those included transactions with his children and a deduction that he took related to the settlement of fraud claims against the now-defunct Trump University.
In a statement on Friday, Mr. Trump denounced Democrats and said the decision to release the returns had been “weaponized.”

“The ‘Trump’ tax returns once again show how proudly successful I have been and how I have been able to use depreciation and various other tax deductions as an incentive for creating thousands of jobs and magnificent structures and enterprises,” he wrote.
Tax returns are among the most privately held documents in the United States. Although Congress has the power to obtain and release them, it rarely takes such action.
After Mr. Trump broke with tradition and declined to release his returns as a presidential candidate or while he was in office, Democratic lawmakers sought them out of concern about potential conflicts of interest. Ultimately, they were able to unlock them using their oversight powers through the inquiry into the I.R.S. policy of auditing presidents and vice presidents.
In 2020, after obtaining data from more than two decades of Mr. Trump’s tax returns, The New York Times traced the boom-and-bust arcs of his financial history: dubious tax avoidance, huge losses and a life buttressed by an inherited fortune. The newly released tax returns show how that pattern extended through his years in Washington.
The reports issued by the Ways and Means Committee also highlighted how outgunned the I.R.S. was in dealing with the army of lawyers, accountants and tax professionals hired by Mr. Trump to defend him in the audits of his returns before, during and after his presidency.“With over 400 flow-thru returns reported on the Form 1040, it is not possible to obtain the resources available to examine all potential issues,” I.R.S. agents said of Mr. Trump’s tax returns in an internal memo that the committee released last week.Republicans warned that the release of a private individual’s tax returns would set a dangerous precedent and lead to public pressure for G.O.P. lawmakers to respond by releasing other sets of tax returns once they take control of the House next week.
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In a closed-door hearing last week that preceded the party-line vote to release Mr. Trump’s returns, Republicans specifically raised the possibility of releasing tax information related to President Biden’s family — most likely including his son Hunter Biden.
“Going forward, all future chairs of both the House Ways and Means Committee and the Senate Finance Committee will have nearly unlimited power to target and make public the tax returns of private citizens, political enemies, business and labor leaders, or even the Supreme Court justices themselves,” Representative Kevin Brady of Texas, the top Republican on the Ways and Means Committee, said in a statement on Friday.
“This is a regrettable stain on the Ways and Means Committee and Congress,” Mr. Brady added, “and will make American politics even more divisive and disheartening. In the long run, Democrats will come to regret it.”
Alan Rappeport reported from Washington, and Jim Tankersley from St. Croix, V.I.
I'm honestly fine with other tax returns getting released. I personally think anyone who runs for federal public office should need to release their tax returns in the interest of public transparency. I'm looking at you, MOSCOW MITCH!
 

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The argument that the release of Trump's tax returns would open up the possibility for ordinary citizens to be targeted is asinine and ignorant. Ways and Means already have that power.

Trump made an enormous show of criticising Hillary Clinton for being slightly late in releasing her returns. He then showed himself to be a gigantic hypocrite for four years with his own returns. He then gave a categorically false excuse for why (the audit). Now we know his tax avoidance was even greater than previously known.

He, and the severely blinkered, will continue to twist this into exoneration and defence. It doesn't matter: the spotlight is good.
 

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The argument that the release of Trump's tax returns would open up the possibility for ordinary citizens to be targeted is asinine and ignorant. Ways and Means already have that power.

Trump made an enormous show of criticising Hillary Clinton for being slightly late in releasing her returns. He then showed himself to be a gigantic hypocrite for four years with his own returns. He then gave a categorically false excuse for why (the audit). Now we know his tax avoidance was even greater than previously known.

He, and the severely blinkered, will continue to twist this into exoneration and defence. It doesn't matter: the spotlight is good.
Conservatives are so fucking stupid. Extra funding to the IRS means armed accountants will know where you live! Yes, yes, that's how the Government learned you address. You have an SS number, a state issued drivers license, you pay property tax, you have gas and electrical utilities delivered to an address, you have a bank account, a mortgage, a credit score, medical history, a GPS linked cellphone and laptop, and an agent of the government comes to your house every single work day to deliver mail, but a few hundred extra tax accountants are the tipping point.

As to Trump. Shocker of shocks, the guy who openly and proudly admitted in the first fucking debate in 2016 that he doesn't pay taxes...doesn't pay taxes.
 

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So I looked into this and I guess Romanian police are just hysterically corrupt/incompetent. This guy wasn't "hiding" in Romania, he lived there. He has a villa and was well known in the city. This same villa was raided six months ago and the police found 2 sex slaves. And this new raid, on the same villa that somehow came as a surprise to everyone he lived exactly where he said he lived, also arrested several policewomen who may have been involved in coverups of the first raid.
This is like Trump posing in front of Mar a Lago and everyone like "OMG he's in Florida!" ...its like yeah, that's where his house is. Property ownership aren't like secrets.
Romania originally had a law were government officials were legally allowed to be corrupt. A law passed in 2014 (I think) to make corruption illegal and many in the Romania government wanted it repealed. I thought it might have been repealed in 2020 but I cant remember

Now, that all sounds incredibly stupid, but remember, banning corruption hasn't stopped corruption in other countries, including mine
 

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(A test tube baby that was grown 20 something years in a single year and brainwashed to crash a plane into the ocean because he read a trigger phrase in a note to use the DNA....It's fucking stupid the more you think about it, okay) in the form of a camera with a gun.

Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack your argument. I just dislike Jack because of said reasons.
jeez, spoilers dude.
 
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You had over 10 fucking years. Once you're passed the 3-5 year mark, said game, movie, or TV show is open season for me.
Funnily enough I would say when you get sufficiently far out, it becomes a Spoiler again. You start getting more and more people who weren't aware of the story in question when it was contemporary, so more and more people discover it as if it were new.
 

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Funnily enough I would say when you get sufficiently far out, it becomes a Spoiler again. You start getting more and more people who weren't aware of the story in question when it was contemporary, so more and more people discover it as if it were new.
I noticed, and while throw some leeway, there always never an official guarantee with me. Especially if you're aware or know how long something has been out, but still have not viewed, read, played or whatever.
 

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In the interest of not clogging this thread, I've made one for this particular topic.


Now we can go back to talking about how many cancer patients Donald Trump stole from this week , Jewish Space Lasers. or arguing with the brick wall that sounds like a weather phenomenon.
 
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My apologies. Spoiler tags added.

For some reason I didn't think bioshock was still under spoiler warning at this point. Is 15 years long enough for spoiler tags to be required on a video game? I honestly don't know.
I was joking, because it is a 15 year old game.
I don't pay attention to plot points or revelations in games, it's all just background noise to me, part of the setting and atmosphere which is what I get most out of.
 

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Firstly: not all of them. Strategy games and stuff like SimCity aren't. And even many of those that take the viewpoint of an individual aren't necessarily about the power of the individual. Take any so-called "walking sim", in which the player is an observer. Or any of the "X simulator" games, cosy sims like Animal Crossing or Farmville... or in fact any of a hundred puzzle games which have no protagonist.
In the absence of a protagonist, you are the protagonist. And by any reasonable definition, if you have no agency over the outcome, it doesn't qualify as a game.
Secondly: I find it very, very telling that you think something being about "the power of the individual" makes it conservative anyway. That's, uhrm, completely at odds with how I'd describe conservatism.
I'm sure it is at odds with how you'd describe conservatism, and that's probably a mark in my favor.
Gordon Freeman fights to bring down the government. So does the fella from Bioshock, whose name escapes me. The protagonists of Resident Evil fight to defend against a threat... which is propagated by unregulated corporate greed. The protagonists of FF7 fight to overthrow their corporate overlords who run the government.
FF7 is the only one of your examples where the protagonists are rebelling against the status quo. I hope you can recognize I'm saying the truth here, the standard plot device is "bad guys try to destroy the world, good guys protect it". There are certainly exceptions to that, but that setup is much more common than the alternative.
Just straight up saying that conservatism is incompatible with equality and solidarity
It's not incompatible, it just isn't what is. A conservative position is that which maintains a status quo. The status quo of society right now is unequal and discordant. It may not always be that way, but it is now, and it would be silly to say otherwise. And even if the world were to become a place where equality and solidarity are conservative positions, the premises of many video games/comics/whatever depend on a society without those things. Villains terrorize and subjugate people because there positions are unequal, heroes are positioned to fight back because they are also uniquely powerful. Those messages are always going to feel out of place in media with explicit and powerful heroes and villains.
 

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Except when it comes to ecosystems or other species.
Not only do conservation and conservative share a word root, they also share historical roots. The American conservation movement came out of the Republican party.
 

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Not only do conservation and conservative share a word root, they also share historical roots. The American conservation movement came out of the Republican party.
And now they're the party that put fossil fuel lobbyists in charge of the EPA. You don't get to coast on past accomplishments your party is actively working to undo.
 

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In the absence of a protagonist, you are the protagonist. And by any reasonable definition, if you have no agency over the outcome, it doesn't qualify as a game.
Complete disagreement on both counts. There is no protagonist in puzzle games like Tetris; the player doesn't count. Saying the player is the protagonist of Tetris is like saying the viewer is the main character of that painting of a can of soup.

I'm sure it is at odds with how you'd describe conservatism, and that's probably a mark in my favor.
...how? How does that make any sense?

You really do just award yourself victory whenever you feel like it nowadays.

FF7 is the only one of your examples where the protagonists are rebelling against the status quo. I hope you can recognize I'm saying the truth here, the standard plot device is "bad guys try to destroy the world, good guys protect it". There are certainly exceptions to that, but that setup is much more common than the alternative.
No, that's categorically false. The protagonists of Half Life 2 and Bioshock are fighting against the status quo of their respective environments. It's not even arguable.

It's not incompatible, it just isn't what is. A conservative position is that which maintains a status quo. The status quo of society right now is unequal and discordant. It may not always be that way, but it is now, and it would be silly to say otherwise. And even if the world were to become a place where equality and solidarity are conservative positions, the premises of many video games/comics/whatever depend on a society without those things. Villains terrorize and subjugate people because there positions are unequal, heroes are positioned to fight back because they are also uniquely powerful. Those messages are always going to feel out of place in media with explicit and powerful heroes and villains.
Conservatism may be charitably described by its adherents as maintenance of the status quo, but that's obviously not all it is. No conservative politicians or parties stand for straightforward continuation of whatever policies were already in place. They either stand for rolling back to a (usually mythical) past state, or for the implementation of changes that they argue would better preserve the specific elements of society they value.

Though I do appreciate that even your own definition casts conservatives as the ones seeking to maintain inequality and discord.

Regarding villains in media and art, you've clearly got quite a simplistic, limited sampling in mind. Countless villains represent corporate greed (Shinra, Umbrella, the PMC in Crysis, Norman Osborne, AIM, Bolivar Trask and the Sentinels) or government (Lex Luthor as president of the US, the Hunger Games & Battle Royale antagonists, the Combine, Andrew Ryan).